mav_9me
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None if it surprises me which is why you are not going to know if it's made up pandering to what people want to hear or its real.
What’s left to be said at this point? Anyway, there’s more to unpack in here than Jose yet another unverified source calling Jose a prick.It's a new article that sheds some light on the situation, assuming it's true. You expect people not to talk about it on a forum? How odd.
He spent hundreds of millions on crap that hamstrung us and took us backwards.No he didn’t.
no he didn’t.He spent hundreds of millions on crap that hamstrung us and took us backwards.
Fred,no he didn’t.
And Jose didn’t “buy” a single one of them. He gave a list of names. Nothing more, nothing less. He didn’t negotiate the fees, the wages, or anything else. He didn’t even get to say who on the list he gave was more important and then he wasn’t even allowed to give a list.Fred,
Bailly,
Sanchez,
Mikhi,
Dalot,
Matic
And Lukaku
Roughly 300 million there?
You never disappoint mate, the master of sarcasm.Fekin Mourinho apologists were quick to come here and defend him. The cheek on them. As for Pogba I'm sure he's liked, it's just that he should really shut up his fat agent.
If all this isn't just made up.
When I first read the piece, and talk of "targeting" Fred, I presumed it meant for the opposition as he's so shocking and weak a player.Some people are framing it as blaming Mourinho for everything but the article doesnt do that.
It suggests McKenna is the man behind our big signing last summer Fred, who struggled to look worth half what we paid for him. If the point of the article is to bury Mourinho for everything, why would one of the main men at the club be given responsibility for his signing? It would be very easy to blame that on Mourinho.
Jose took us backwards and wasted an insane amount of rubbish on players. Woodwood backed the manager and ended up humiliated because he put his trust in José. He’s been the worst thing to happen to this club in the last decade. Ole has to pick up the pieces now.And Jose didn’t “buy” a single one of them. He gave a list of names. Nothing more, nothing less. He didn’t negotiate the fees, the wages, or anything else. He didn’t even get to say who on the list he gave was more important and then he wasn’t even allowed to give a list.
You wanna talk about the team, sure, that’s all on Jose. But “the club” is under the purview of woody. And you know this. And That is the uncomfortable truth.
The club and the team were in on downward trajectory before Jose got here, and it’s continued after he left. He was a problem, but he wasn’t the only one. And you know this.
I think Lingard is the whistleblower.Who be snitching?
were written, not spoken.Despite having been included in close to 15 training sessions under Mourinho
Yes he did.No he didn’t.
rubbish. And again, you already know this. Jose wasn’t just throwing bitch fits for no reason. Woodward has been a joke on transfers since day one with Moyes. Lvg said the same thing about Woodward. The managerial failures have hurt the team. The damage Woodward has done has been to the club. And as we can see, it’s continuing as we piss around in the market instead of getting business done earlier.Jose took us backwards and wasted an insane amount of rubbish on players. Woodwood backed the manager and ended up humiliated because he put his trust in José. He’s been the worst thing to happen to this club in the last decade. Ole has to pick up the pieces now.
Before José the muppets here used to post memes of Woodwood signing players and getting transfers done no matter what. Jose completely shattered his reputation, but all Woodwood did was back him.
Oh no he didn’t.Yes he did.
I think Lingard is the whistleblower.
Of all the youth-team prospects at the club, he is the most outspoken.
Do you really believe in what you just wrote?And Jose didn’t “buy” a single one of them. He gave a list of names. Nothing more, nothing less. He didn’t negotiate the fees, the wages, or anything else. He didn’t even get to say who on the list he gave was more important and then he wasn’t even allowed to give a list.
You wanna talk about the team, sure, that’s all on Jose. But “the club” is under the purview of woody. And you know this. And That is the uncomfortable truth.
The club and the team were in on downward trajectory before Jose got here, and it’s continued after he left. He was a problem, but he wasn’t the only one. And you know this.
oh, great. It’s youDo you really believe in what you just wrote?
Do you really think that Mourinho "made a list" and then was not involved anymore?
What a completely stupid post. With all due respect and so on.
Do you really think managers don't know the (approximate) transfer fees for players even before negotiating for them? Mourinho, his staff and everyone knew how much these players would cost, and he still asked for them.And Jose didn’t “buy” a single one of them. He gave a list of names. Nothing more, nothing less. He didn’t negotiate the fees, the wages, or anything else. He didn’t even get to say who on the list he gave was more important and then he wasn’t even allowed to give a list.
You wanna talk about the team, sure, that’s all on Jose. But “the club” is under the purview of woody. And you know this. And That is the uncomfortable truth.
The club and the team were in on downward trajectory before Jose got here, and it’s continued after he left. He was a problem, but he wasn’t the only one. And you know this.
I could also manage United and make a list.oh, great. It’s you
Gave him a contract extension then never backed him after the extension which is even worse. Why extend his contract if you don’t want to give him more funds? Woodward is completely not fit for the job.So takeaway:
- everybody who knows even an inkling about football and Manchester United were tentative about the signing of Mourinho. Success but at what cost. And Ed Woodward not only signed him but gave him a contract EXTENSION.
- Can't blame an asshole for being himself. Blame the guy who hired then kept him on.
True.Gave him a contract extension then never backed him after the extension which is even worse. Why extend his contract if you don’t want to give him more funds? Woodward is completely not fit for the job.
then why are we always paying the “united” price? Why we are paying squad players 100s of 1000s of thousands per week? We buy for big money, yet sell of pennies. We let players contracts run down constant forcing extensions to be activated. The list goes on and on. We suck at negotiating at every level.Do you really think managers don't know the (approximate) transfer fees for players even before negotiating for them? Mourinho, his staff and everyone knew how much these players would cost, and he still asked for them.
It's time to bury this "Woodward's negotiation skills" myth for good. We could have signed A. Robertson, S. Mane, Salah, Fabinho, Shaqiri, and VVD for the same fees Liverpool paid if Mourinho asked for them.
Maybe because they did exactly that with the Sanchez-transfer? And he knew that was that if we needed to sell to buy that summer. Or is that to logical?Gave him a contract extension then never backed him after the extension which is even worse. Why extend his contract if you don’t want to give him more funds? Woodward is completely not fit for the job.
im not getting sucked in your endless levels of cherrypicked bullshit, sorry.I could also manage United and make a list.
It would look something like this:
Messi
Neymar (without his c..ish parts)
Koulibaly.
De Ligt
Hazard
Busquets
....
and so on to make a world eleven.
And if Woodward and the Glazers does not get them for me its not on me?
They are just c...t owners and executives and thats the proof of the fact?
Or how does this logic of yours work?
I agree on both accounts. Its the biggest stick you can and should beat Woodward with.True.
The biggest mistake Woodwood made was hiring Mourinho. The second was extending his contract. Makes no sense to this day.
Thanks. Mwah.You never disappoint mate, the master of sarcasm.
Agreed on all points.Yeah it didn't go well but that's the package Mourinho brought with him, He was never famous with academy players.
Also let's not forget :
I might be skeptical here but these kind silly of news/interviews are only there to make money for the journalists (and to 'convince' fans that things are okay). It happens everytime We switch manager and it looks like the best decision ever, everytime.
- When Moyes brought his staffs in, there were news about how He looks like a man who knows what He wants, not under the shadow of Sir Alex. There were analysis of Phil Neville being not only a staff but also a red devil at heart, correct decision, etc etc (feck, I feel like I want to vomit now)
- When LvG first came here, people said There were togetherness after Moyes' disaster. He controlled training sessions and appreciated the academy. At this point, people were belittling Moyes
- When Jose first came here, people said He fixed the dressing room by letting players eat lunch together again (after being separated by LvG, apparently), players looked happy again. At this point, people were belittling LvG
- Now... Ole is here and people talk shit about Mourinho not appreciating academy players (surprise surprise) and the players are now happy again
If things go tits up, it's just a matter of time before people start belittling Ole, McKenna, Carrick. Even the same players/people. Let's see what happens next season under Ole. But I won't be holding my breath, there have been so many mistakes that a few positive things can't change the outlook of the entire thing. "Fixing" the club is always going to be a lengthy process.
It had us all off mate. It was easy to get swept up. At the end of the day it’s over now and we try and improve.I agree on both accounts. Its the biggest stick you can and should beat Woodward with.
That said 95 percent of the Caf wanted Mourinho. I even warmed to the idea myself and I detest the man and his type of football.
Yeah, great reply as alwaysim not getting sucked in your endless levels of cherrypicked bullshit, sorry.
Back on to the topic.
He is not IMO.I love how in this thread Ed is blameless.