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Paulo Dybala
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You're right about this. These swap deals that "never happen" seem to be becoming increasingly common.
Guys, we've only had two days of this saga and not nearly enough drama. This isn't getting finalised today or tomorrow.
Oh really? So United are buying him tomorrow?
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I find it so fecking weird how slow everyone within the footballing world are to do things.
I work a mundane 9-5 office job for bang average pay - and if someone has an urgent question for me while I'm on holiday, I'm going to get a text about it, which is fine.
This bloke is the sole decider of a deal worth millions upon millions of euros and it's like everyone is busy taking a walk in the park.
I'll never understand.
I work a mundane 9-5 office job for bang average pay - and if someone has an urgent question for me while I'm on holiday, I'm going to get a text about it, which is fine.
This bloke is the sole decider of a deal worth millions upon millions of euros and it's like everyone is busy taking a walk in the park.
I'll never understand.
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Yeah, let's box off everyone's opinions and live happily in our own little echo chambers.
Debate is overrated.
I mean how long do you really think it’s gonna take? The clubs are in complete agreement, we’ve agreed to Dybala’s wage demands, all we’re waiting on is a “yes” or “no” from Dybala.Oh really? So United are buying him tomorrow?
Ajax were something special last season. I would be over the moon if we were as entertaining this year.
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Very debatable. Folks living in England might reckon the grass is greener on the other side but most neutrals, Latinos included would choose England over Italy. Not to mention the problems with racism Italy has.
Yeah... But still not entirely sure it's real, after all fake rumours this summer.Are you getting excited mate
I'm exhausted!
Tbh the way I see it is that we're in a win-win here. There will be a merry-go-round of strikers' transfers in Serie A involving Juve, Inter, Roma, and Napoli; and Lukaku is the most desired of them all so the big two clubs in this particular scenario will do all they can to get him. If Dybala says no, then other moves will happen which will mean that either a) Juve get the funds to purchase Rom; or b) Inter get the funds to purchase him.
Obviously, getting Dybala would be the most optimal outcome here, but if he doesn't come then it's no skin off our nose. Lukaku will IMO be sold for our asking price irrespective of what happens in this deal and we'll get in the squad player-striker that is arguably just as good, if not better, fit for our needs than Dybala would be.
Obviously, getting Dybala would be the most optimal outcome here, but if he doesn't come then it's no skin off our nose. Lukaku will IMO be sold for our asking price irrespective of what happens in this deal and we'll get in the squad player-striker that is arguably just as good, if not better, fit for our needs than Dybala would be.
I don't think the straight swap is a fair deal. We need to show some goodwill and offer them a couple of more players as part of the deal.
We could definitely throw Darmian in there. Put the poor lad out of his misery.
Also, thanks to those who are posting all the tweets. Much appreciated.
Maybe Darmian and Rojo, just to show them how greatful we are.
The feck. Really...smh
Yes please, get into the hyperbolic time chamber and make as if you guys were never here!
It's not my impression at all. Admittedly I might be a bit biased as I have lived in Italy (as non-Italian) and I haven't lived in England, but I don't know if I have met a single Latino who'd rather live in Manchester than in Torino (again, we don't discuss stuff like career opportunities) if he was given a choice and a very healthy amount of money. Sadly, racism can indeed be an issue, but not really a one that would touch Latinos.
Half of this is an old stereotype thinking Manchester is some backwards place with nothing to do, when in reality as a City its now up there with the very best.
Brexit Britain is hardly a beacon for racial tolerance
I'm confused as to why a meeting between Sarri and Dybala is needed in the first place. If his agent and Juventus's sporting director were in London trying to negotiate terms with United, then that suggests Sarri has already communicated he doesn't need him, or the decision is out of his hands anyway. It'll be a bit silly if during the meeting Sarri says he wants Dybala there. In that case, wouldn't he have already discussed that with the sporting director and his agent?
Spent some time in both cities, Turin and Manchester. Turin is beautiful, great place if you got money, nice surrounds, decent climate, not too far from Milan etc. but Manchester by far outstrips it from a contemporary cultural and cosmopolitan stand point, it’s the more exciting and vibrant city for sure.
I've never thought of Manchester (or any other English city tbh) as of a backwards place with nothing to do, but from my own experience I can tell you that for many Southerners and Latinos the stereotype about England (bar London, London has it's own stereotype) is quite similar to the one of my home country - bad weather, lots of rain, unamusing local food. Not saying they're right (especially with climate getting completely fecked your weather argument is losing the grounds) but yeah, I'd say that for vast majority of young lads from Argentina Torino will sound more alluring than Manchester.
Yeah but I don't think we are going to let him for free either.
I honestly think all this is just media filling their pages. The deal is probably already done, they're just having to work out the last little bits and say their goodbyes etc.
As you say why would they go through all this negotiating for Dybala to just say "no thanks don't like England" seems very odd.
The whole lifestyle thing is dependant on the player in question and his nationality isn't really a good indicator imo.
Theres two choices for rich folk in manchester.
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You can live in the city centre in an amazing penthouse and be a 5 minute walk from every type of restaurant you could think of, any type of shop you can think of and see any type of event (MEN arena) - Guardiola is in this boat and he prefers Manchester over Munich apparently; which he said was surprising at first.
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You can also be rich in manchester and live out of the city in areas like Wilmslow, alderley edge, hale barns etc which are nice little villages on their own but there isn't that much to do around there although the house you will be living in will be one of the most up to date, desirable mansions you can buy in the world.
Most footballers who have settled here have picked number 2 but number 1 is becoming more popular with the growth of residential developments in manchester city centre. Alot of recent city staff have chosen to reside in the city and I reckon united the same, although traditionally i think the club (fergie) would've preferred the players to settle down in the quiet leafy suburbs with their family.
All in all manchester is a good destination for the rich. The weather obviously isn't great but a few years of living in a cooler wetter climate isn't the end of the world is it? Everyone is different. I wouldn't mind living in Pripyat for a few yeara if a company was willing to double my current wages for example.
Theres two choices for rich folk in manchester.
1.
You can live in the city centre in an amazing penthouse and be a 5 minute walk from every type of restaurant you could think of, any type of shop you can think of and see any type of event (MEN arena) - Guardiola is in this boat and he prefers Manchester over Munich apparently; which he said was surprising at first.
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You can also be rich in manchester and live out of the city in areas like Wilmslow, alderley edge, hale barns etc which are nice little villages on their own but there isn't that much to do around there although the house you will be living in will be one of the most up to date, desirable mansions you can buy in the world.
Most footballers who have settled here have picked number 2 but number 1 is becoming more popular with the growth of residential developments in manchester city centre. Alot of recent city staff have chosen to reside in the city and I reckon united the same, although traditionally i think the club (fergie) would've preferred the players to settle down in the quiet leafy suburbs with their family.
All in all manchester is a good destination for the rich. The weather obviously isn't great but a few years of living in a cooler wetter climate isn't the end of the world is it? Everyone is different. I wouldn't mind living in Pripyat for a few yeara if a company was willing to double my current wages for example.
I quite clearly said, "if they actually wanted to be at the club I'd prefer them to Dybala."
If none of them wanted to join, I wouldn't want any of them.
In terms of Dembele, why wouldn't he want to focus on Lyon? That's his current club and until he has genuine reason to focus on another club why should he?
The Dyaba/Sarri meeting stuff makes me think this has turned into the usual muppet season clickbait
If we know and the media know Dybala isn't wanted why is this contingent on Dybala having to meet with Sarri? Shouldn't he already know he isn't in the plans. I mean his agent was supposedly in London about this deal. Why is it this thing hinging on a meeting between a player who obviously by now knows he isn't wanted and the new manager that doesn't want him.
and now the day the meeting was gonna happen has changed from being yesterday to today to tomorrow.
Think it's a tactic by United and Juventus to make Inter stump up to pay for Lukaku and sell Icardi to Juventus
If we know and the media know Dybala isn't wanted why is this contingent on Dybala having to meet with Sarri? Shouldn't he already know he isn't in the plans. I mean his agent was supposedly in London about this deal. Why is it this thing hinging on a meeting between a player who obviously by now knows he isn't wanted and the new manager that doesn't want him.
and now the day the meeting was gonna happen has changed from being yesterday to today to tomorrow.
Think it's a tactic by United and Juventus to make Inter stump up to pay for Lukaku and sell Icardi to Juventus
So how is that any different to Dybala saying he wants to stay at his current club and wants to focus on Juve?
I don't see the similarities with AdM like everyone else, i think much of that was the manager's fault.
We had a stubborn and proud manager at that time, now we have a more positive one, who has brought the squad more together, and smiles to their little faces. I am 100% sure the AdM episode would never have gone that way if OGS was our manager at the time.
Both JoMo and LvG lacked man management skills. They just liked players who did what they were told, without any questions.
We had a stubborn and proud manager at that time, now we have a more positive one, who has brought the squad more together, and smiles to their little faces. I am 100% sure the AdM episode would never have gone that way if OGS was our manager at the time.
Both JoMo and LvG lacked man management skills. They just liked players who did what they were told, without any questions.
Who is that guy on the right? New groundskeeper/gardener?
I bet Brexit will feck his job right off.
Is he home now? what is he having for lunch? Sky news understand that Dybala is now taking a dump.
If that is the case its really stupid PR form our side. Getting fans excited over the prospect of a world-class signing.
That being said...wouldn't totally surprise me.
I've not been to Turin but Manchester is a very underrated city. There's a lot going on, as you said it's vibrant. I think anybody would like it if they gave it a chance.
He might be constipated, we have to know!
South of France.
I guess it comes down to personal preference . I've never been to Italy too my view of Italy is based on a few relatives going on and on about the racial issues they face living in Italy. We are Muslims so its probably not as bad for everyone. This is a topic for another thread though.
My point was there isnt a vast difference between Turin and Manchester as compared to cities like Barcelona or Madrid. Both have their pros and cons.
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