Awful defender. Has always been.
David Luiz
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He can pass but his close control and awareness of what's around him isn't good enough for a centre mid. He's a bit too brainless. Like you say he's a good sweeper and thats what he was doing in that one good season he had. He's useless anywhere else though.
Awful cnut, but he will meet his end sooner rather than later. Why that moron of a referee didn't review the two foot tackle incident on VAR? Incompetent twat.
I have an abiding image of him with his "let's do this for Neymar" just before the Germans stuck 7 past Brazil.
As one of 2 CB's, he simply isn't good enough. He excels in a 3 CB formation or as one 2 DM's in a 4-2-3-1 formation. I remember in 13/14, Chelsea used him next to Matic at DM and it worked very well.
He put in one of the all time great Champions League final performances as a central defender in 2012. Not bad for an “awful defender”.
Still awful defender.
I could be wrong but i reckon people who think he's an awful defender are probably basing it on his entire career and not just one game where his team played very defensively.
This is like saying Eder scored a goal in a final which proved to be decisive.
Not really, they’re basing it on the minority of matches where he has performed badly as a defender.
He’s not a consistent player but the idea that he can’t defend is nonsense.
If the argument was “Éder can’t score goals” then that would be an accurate comparison as it clearly disproves the point being made.
The argument that Eder is shit is still valid.
He's a good footballer but very flawed.
He’s one of the few footballers in history for whom a serious injury that limited his movement would actually make him a better player.
He is very skilled but lacks the concentration or discipline that ties it together to be top quality. Benitez recognized it and tried him in midfield but that wasn't enough to cover his indiscipline either.
He has absolutely no interest in defending. It's like it bores him. So he goes walkabouts, putting his team in danger.
I don't think anyone is saying he can't defend, every professional footballer ever can defend to one level or another. He's had good games defensively as you've pointed out.
What they're saying is that he is awful at defending most of the time. Put him in the middle of a back 3 and he's great thats his best position, put him in a back 4 as one of the 2 centre backs and he struggles. Positionaly he's all over the place in a back 4, he also has poor discipline and concentration levels. Not good attributes for a central defender in my opinion.
As i said playing as a sweeper is his best position but most teams don't use that system. Outside of that i don't think he excels in any other position.
He plays well in a system that suits him and struggles in one that doesn’t, like most players. Luiz is an easy target and gets undue stick because of it. He even got slaughtered for his performace against Bournemouth recently despite the fact he was playing with a concussion ffs.
Remember when John Terry played in Villas-Boas’s high defensive line and looked absolutely horrendous? Terry was fortunate enough to play in teams whose tactics flatter him so nobody ever questions his qualities as a defender.
What happened to Christensen?
He's an enigma. The Fellani of defence and that has nothing to do with his hair.
He is a good player, passes the ball well out of defence but can be so erratic and unpredictable at times. He looks like the type of CB who could be converted into a good DM, but he always looks better playing in a three at the back.
He's a good footballer but not a very good defender.
He still won 2 or 3 PL and 1 CL. Weird.
He still won 2 or 3 PL and 1 CL. Weird.
Thats a fair point, though i think most of the dislike he gets from opposition fans is as a result of his antics and generally being not being a very likable character.
That's why conte used him in the middle of a back 3. It's the only position for player like that . He can't form partnership with 1 other CB without exposing himself and the team.
His highs are very high but the lows, which are much too frequent for him to be a top class centre half, are very low. But in the right system he can be a very useful player, if you're willing to let him arse around a bit every so often.
Luiz is a perfect example of a defender being renowned for the wrong things. Imagine most people thinks he is better than Smalling because he got sold for a lot of money and can hit a fantastic hollywood pass once in a while. I think he is one of the best CB's on the ball around, but it is so clear to see that being good on the ball doesn't outweigh being a good defender. He is great one on one when in form but his positioning and application defensively is horrible and If he comes up against smart attackers he will cost his team. He isn't able to provide assists from CB position each game to make up for it, so why should his ball-playing abilities give him an edge over someone like Lindelof who is not as extravagant on the ball but good and still a better defender. It doesn't make sense to me how defenders are rated these days.
I can’t believe this joker has carved out a career at top clubs.
Souness loves the guy. Says it all!
His best moments will never over shadow being the man who was turned into silly putty by the 2014 German side in the world cup. I've never looked at him without seeing fear in his eyes since.
To be fair to Terry he had lost a lot of his pace by then.
He's not a bad player, he just got into that stage where everyone wants to blame him for everything. Yesterday he did nothing wrong but I heard someone say he didn't tell Alonso there was someone behind him 
Just the one premier league. Mourinho sold him in 2014.
Gary Neville's original analogy from 2013 still fits Luiz perfectly
"plays like he's being controlled by a 10 year old on a Playstation"
"plays like he's being controlled by a 10 year old on a Playstation"
David Luiz is a better regista than Jorginho.
What an absolute idiot.
I was so livid with his stupid run up.
Knew he was gonna miss.
I was so livid with his stupid run up.
Knew he was gonna miss.
in fairness he's usually good in the shoot outs. Scored v Spurs, the famous one against Bayern Munich and also in wc cup shoot out for Brazil against Chile in 2014.
For obviously not a regular penalty taker he's quite good at them. Ironically yesterday he went against his usual side as the three he's scored he shot to his left.
I'm not mad. He scored the CL final one. He gets a pass from me for missing this one.
It worked alright in the big games because we played strictly on the counter under both Benitez and Jose which means mainly he had to focus on the defensive side.
Whenever he played there in games we had to take the game to opponents he was horrific.
Imagine refusing to train because you want to leave Chelsea for fecking Arsenal. Bob must be proper drunk.
Hope Arsenal sign him. Imagine your team signing this utter fraud.