Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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He doesnt have a clue in regards to in game mgt.

But you can see what he wants in a team and squad. He's shifting players that dont suit.

Im not sure its his fault we didnt buy a rw, forward and at least one midfielder so i cant blame him for that.

Wouldnt be surprised if he's sacked by xmas all the same.
 

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Last five Man United managers ranked after 32 games
  1. Jose Mourinho – W21 D6 L5 – Win rate 65.6 per cent
  2. David Moyes – W18 D6 L8 – Win rate 56.3 per cent
  3. Louis van Gaal – W17 D9 L6 – Win rate 53.1 per cent
  4. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer – W17 D5 L10 – Win rate 53.1 per cent.

Let’s not forget he got 26 points in his first 10 games.

31 points in the next 23 games, if we continue the trend we will end between 5-60 points for the season which will put us around #6-8 on the table.
 

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I love the "individual mistakes" excuse. Using that logic, no manager in history is at fault for their failures as in almost all cases the players could have done better.
 

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No one is available to replace him that I want. Best to keep him and tell him to improve results or he will be sacked by Christmas.

Ole role at the club needs to change though. From manager of the club to being part of the transfer committee. Yes, it is a huge demotion, but Ole transfer activity looks much better than our last previous manager. He might not accept such a role, but it is better than going back to a nobody league and managing Molde.
 

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It’s relegation form, and we only put up with the same form towards the end of last season because we were promised a massive cull and summer rebuild which never materialised.

I blame Woodward and the Glazers first and foremost, but I’m seriously doubting Ole will last the season. They’ll just sack him in December, appoint another patsy and the cycle of false promises will start all over again.
 

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His 2nd half subs decision is shocking, just when we need a goal, he brings in Lingard and Matic, what the actual feck.
Thing is, I wouldn't mind matic coming on but he needed to do that earlier at 1 nil
Could see we were being over run so why not get an extra body there especially with Pereira being shit.

His subs are almost Moyes like
 

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You people :lol:, like it matters, some only see far as this top 4 spot for next season.
 

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Realistically, we probably have to wait a bit before sacking him. But it does feel like we're just killing time before the inevitable.
Squad is too thin, players are too young,inexperienced,average,inconsistent. It does look like the inevitable..again.

What sums us up, 15 Years ago a Rashford would come in a team that is establish for him to get experience. Now he's the main man and we reliant on him. We just too reliant on players that aren't good enough yet.
 

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We're worse than we were this time last year. No patience if there is no progress.
Maybe there would be progress if we did a proper job in the summer. He’s relying on Pereira, Greenwood, Young, McT, Matic and Mata......

He’s cleared most of the deadwood out but needed 5 players in and it just didn’t happen.
 

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Unless there is a change of manager, poor results and performances like today will continue to happen throughout the season. He is clearly out of his depth. The board has clearly jumped the gun and got too ahead of themselves.

Questions will now certainly be asked as to how the board picked ole gunnar solskjaer over Laurent blanc at the time we needed a experienced, competent, professional and capable caretaker manager when jose mourinho was sacked.

I fully understand blanc wanted the job full time and was not interested in taking over on the basis as a interim or caretaker. However the club should of persisted and pushed its boundaries to hire him. ogs is far too inexperienced and incapable of managing a massive club like manchester united. He should have never been appointed in the first place unfortunately.
 

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Given many people can see what he wants to do, the players he fancies, the ones he shifts, he might actually be more suited to a DoF than Manager :D
 

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Ole is a symptom of the bigger issue; This club now has zero ambition. The facts are Mourinho wasn’t backed two summers ago, we hired a replacement management team that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship, we’ve got rid of our high earners, we haven’t replaced those high earners and our net spend has been low the last few years for an underachieving club with our resources.

If the club had ambition we would have paid the 30m to get Pochetino and given him whatever he needed to fix this club. We didn’t do that because there’s no will to spend what’s required to do that. Sacking Ole now isn’t going to achieve anything, the problem is much deeper. We will continue on this downward spiral until the owners and their incompetent puppet Woodward leave.
 

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So many entitled fans. Shut up, sit back and enjoy the ride. It’s a process, Ole deserves at least 5 years.
You chose the worst possible time to post this, could have at least waited for a win. What an attention seeking troll. You deserve to be banned just for this alone.
 

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He was let down in the summer with no creative midfielders being signed. However, to bring Matic and Lingard on just showcases his cowardice. He talks about youth, but he hasn't got the balls to actually play them. Greenwood comes on with eight minutes to go...

He said Greenwood is a better finisher than Rashford and Martial yet he doesn't start him.
Well done, he's 17.
 

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Let's also not forget that one of the reasons we struggled so badly with signings in the summer is that very few players are enthralled at the prospect of playing here under Ole.

They can see the writing on the wall.
 

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When Jose was going through a rough patch, thought LVG should have given enough time. Now I am thinking, we should have given Jose more time. Thats how bad things are.

Sack him, promote him as dof. Bring a proper manager in. He is clueless.
 

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Louis van Gaal and Jose were hired after modern football left them behind and they were shadows of their past. Solskjaer seems to be a Moyes situation all over again, a man whos clearly out of his depth.
 

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Yeah but we had to get Matic on to protect the 1-1
The Matic sub is the one that I really question. Lingard I get, even though he's in bad form. It made sense to put him on as he is still an attacking player and maybe he had something to prove after being benched. Greenwood I also get because, again, an attacking player.

Matic added nothing and was a waste of a sub. Maybe the thinking was to put Matic on to then move Pogba further forward, but I didn't really see that translate onto the pitch. I would have personally kept Mata on as he was one of the more likelier players to unlock that Southampton defence, especially when they were down to 10.

The question is: did the subs have a positive impact on the game? Answer is a resounding no. Our subs don't improve our performance.
 

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I think we've created a fair bit today. Quite a few dangerous crosses for which there was no authentic striker on the end of. McTominay played a superb ball for AWB that he skied. Rashford had 2-3 through balls from Pogba where he took too much time and didn't trouble the keeper the one time he managed to beat the defender.

This team with a clinical striker is a completely different story. Add a competent passer/technician in midfield (who can also run) and we're up a level. A right winger too and we've got a team.

But I don't see the point in sticking with players who have shown they aren't what we need. Of course, numbers have to be replaced, but this United, we are not run like a proper football club. Ole is not a top manager, but any top manager would find the conditions at United hindrances to his work.
You’re mental if you think we’ve created a lot, or just forgotten what it’s like to watch good football. Those Rashford chances were half chances at best. AWB was offside.

The chances we had were pretty much all self made, ie Greenwood, Young. Says it all that Southampton has a man sent off and all we thought of doing was smashing balls into the box, pretty much making it irrelevant that they have a player less.

But yes, upgrade 3 of the front 6 and we have a decent team just like most of the top 10 in the Premier League. Problem is we haven’t.
 

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It was obvious last season that he is not good enough. Why wait with sacking? Sure, sacking manager sometimes is not solution but sometimes it is. Like now. If he gets whole season i am not sure that we will be in top 10. Same goes if we will wait until Christmas.
 

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Here he is to spout his unusual insipid drivel.

Edit: We're getting there though! :lol:
 

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The coming game with Leicester will be more difficult than the one today. Ole will be given time but the team looks a bit lost against deep sitting opposition. Their keeper had 2 routine saves in the last 25 minutes when they were playing with a man less. Soton were a bit naive in their approach in the first half and left huge spaces for counter attacks. We look quality mostly when counter attacking.
 

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We play Leicester, West Ham and Arsenal in Sept. On current form none of those games look winnable. Gone by October?
 

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Hope the post match interviewers ask who played in front of Bissaka in the second half?
No balanced width and to play two sitting midfielders why?
I'm sure hell be disappointed that we never took chances but is he really supprised with how all regular personell have performed in the past three years.
To let the players go who he did in this window and not replace the buck stops at Ole.
Wait for it not clinical enough
 

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If he keeps fielding the likes of Andres, lingard and pogba deep then he'll be gone soon.
 

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It's part of the problem though isn't it. Yes we should be scoring more but we should be defending better too
No. If you kill games off at half time like Liverpool and City, it just brings teams onto you for the attack or its damage limitation for them and they play deep. Our problem is scoring, not defending...
 

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He is part of the problem letting go of Smalling before having a proper assessment of the current cb partnership.
I don't rate ole, but smalling had to go. He had been nothing short of a disaster and it seems that we want to remember the good of smalling when there was a lot of things wrong with his game. He was an average center back that made us average as well. Direct your anger at lindolof, but don't pretend that smalling would make us better.
 

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The point is we didn't replace or improve on the ones we let go.
Then don't let them go [and especially dont push them out] until you have a solid plan to replace/improve. That's on the manager surely for sanctioning such sales and deciding he'll 'make do' until the right one becomes available?

I'm no fan of woodward, but I'm quite sure he's not forcing such sales.
 

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It was obvious last season that he is not good enough. Why wait with sacking? Sure, sacking manager sometimes is not solution but sometimes it is. Like now. If he gets whole season i am not sure that we will be in top 10. Same goes if we will wait until Christmas.
If we sack him now, who would you like to replace him with?
 

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The Matic sub is the one that I really question. Lingard I get, even though he's in bad form. It made sense to put him on as he is still an attacking player and maybe he had something to prove after being benched. Greenwood I also get because, again, an attacking player.

Matic added nothing and was a waste of a sub. Maybe the thinking was to put Matic on to then move Pogba further forward, but I didn't really see that translate onto the pitch. I would have personally kept Mata on as he was one of the more likelier players to unlock that Southampton defence, especially when they were down to 10.

The question is: did the subs have a positive impact on the game? Answer is a resounding no. Our subs don't improve our performance.
Well Lingard only play last 20 minutes against 10 men Southampton, and he still managed to be our worst player on the pitch, with some shocking decision making and first touch.
 
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