Can people stop banging about how Klopp and Pep took ages to produce quality football already? Klopp reached League Cup Final and Europa League Final in his 1st season with a core group of Mignolet, Clyne, Sakho, Skrtel, Milner, Henderson, Lallana, Coutinho and Sturridge. With rest of the 'game-changers' being Danny Ings, Joe Allen, Divock Origi and loads of other shit players. Even with a sub-standard group of players he was playing attractive, attacking football. You could see an identity to his side as to what they were trying to do. To say he finished 8th in his 1st season is being so reductive, given they ditched the PL campaign for deeper runs in Europa and he did all this without buying a single player. Same applies to Pep, his start in 1st season was like 10 straight wins. He just had too many old players to sustain the level of performance with likes of Sagna, Clichy, Zabaleta, Kolarov to pick in defence and Yaya and Fernando in midfield. He still finished 3rd and produced arguably the best football in the division.