Ed leaving has to be the next step, the new setup can then make a decision on Ole.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I bet this is what Ed/Glazers are dreading, they now have someone who is relatively cheap, won't complain, who they can pass the blame to, and because of who is will buy him more patience with fans, very different to the expensive Jose who was not willing to sit there taking all the blame.
The best thing Ole could do is resign, and expose the terrible way the club is been run, but he'll solider on, take the blame, all because he doesn't was want to give up been the manager of the club he loves.
Here is another one about what he is actually trying to do. But Looking from my last factual post on fitness, there really isn’t any point.
You can’t educate pork!
But football made easy on YouTube has made som tactical analysis. What he is trying to implement and how he wants to press. They even made some good pointers to what changed in the period of shit. It really makes you look at some of the players, not the manager. It really isn’t that hard to either understand or see. Well, you can’t see it all the time.
Watching it, you will actually understand Ole is a good tactical manager. But we wouldn’t want that..
Yes lads, if not winning against Arsenal, he need to get the sack! Three points behind 4 place rebuilding is unacceptable..
You can’t educate pork!
But football made easy on YouTube has made som tactical analysis. What he is trying to implement and how he wants to press. They even made some good pointers to what changed in the period of shit. It really makes you look at some of the players, not the manager. It really isn’t that hard to either understand or see. Well, you can’t see it all the time.
Watching it, you will actually understand Ole is a good tactical manager. But we wouldn’t want that..
Yes lads, if not winning against Arsenal, he need to get the sack! Three points behind 4 place rebuilding is unacceptable..
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We could be 3pts behind 4th place all season we still wouldn’t do enough to make up the gap.
I wish Klopp resigned and exposed Liverpool’s board for there incompetence of not getting VVD. I mean they couldn’t keep a clean sheet for nothing.
You’re trying to enter into a debate of nuance & subjectivity.
If we are looking to replace Sanchez at his underperforming level, maybe slightly above instead of replacing what we believe Sanchez should have been then perhaps your right but honestly I don’t care to enter the discussion because I can’t comprehend a fan that thinks this is acceptable.
They’ll be fans who fall into your camp & fans who do mine. You aren’t going to convince me Dan James is an adequate replacement for Sanchez because you’re arguing from a position of what Sanchez gave us & I’m thinking his levels needed improving upon vastly, not matching/somewhat improving upon.
We also aren’t going to argue to merits of Dan James, a player I rate but don’t think should be a first team ‘nailed on’ starter as he has been forced to become.
I’ve read your points, I take them on board, I disagree profoundly. So much so I’d find it hard to dissect your points with respect & don’t want to this to turn into a pointless back & forth.
Yeah because the two situations are so similar.
Klopp has improved Matip, Arnold, Robertson, even Lovren and Henderson. It's a myth that VVD has on his own revolutionised Pool's back-line.
Ole has improved no one.
Ohhh dear.. I can’t read this shit anymore.. I’m taking the day off getting some air. Enjoy your thread of “we have all lost our mind completely”! ( That wasn’t aimed at you Eric!,)
Nothings ever the same but for some reason our board is the worst board of al time. I just don’t believe it.
Good idea!
A tactically astute top manager for the right salary would.
Any decent manager would come. He knows he is going to get money to spend. He needs a new defensive midfield player and another decent midfield player and one striker and he has got a team he can coach to challenge for trophies.
So yes. Many would jump at the chance to manage Manchester United.
So yes. Many would jump at the chance to manage Manchester United.
I wish I could buy you a drink from my location. Spot on! The only reason to keep Ole is blind faith. His history as a manager, his perfomances since he became perm manager are nothing to write home about.
In a nutshell.
Finishing third? No. But we certainly have a squad good enough against the likes of Astana, Rochdale, Southampton and teams of that ilk OGS has failed to win against.
Re the Klopp debate, Liverpool's most recent owners have also transformed the way the club is run, creating smooth recruitment and a clear style of play which is built towards in every way the club is run. The owners, Henry, key in the progress Liverpool have made. Think of the aimless recruitment in the years before them.
Hilarious all the back peddling with Chelsea's squad. We are playing shite football cause apparently Chelsea have better players, even though that wasn't the general consensus on here before the season started or after we beat them in the first game of the season. All this talk of Mason Mount etc; yet we have very similar talented young players who our manager opts not to utilise.
Not to add, they lost their best player and couldn't sign anyone. That's not even getting into the fact that teams with far inferior players to us, play far better football.
Nope, must be just the players.
Not to add, they lost their best player and couldn't sign anyone. That's not even getting into the fact that teams with far inferior players to us, play far better football.
Nope, must be just the players.
We are closer to relegation than the top ffs.
We all know where this saga is going, to a dark place.
Problem is, nothing will change. Ole will be sacked and Ed will then have to sell a 8th-10th place Man United, probably minus Pogba, to a new manager. New manager will look at the state of us and say "I'm interested but only if you give me a LOT of money because I need a CDM, a midfielder, a RW, a Pogba replacement and a striker".
Ed will promise him the world, he'll sign and then by the time the window closes we'll have signed 2/5 players that the manager needed and things will go downhill yet again. The new manager will start griping when results start sliding, to protect his own interests, morale will be rock bottom and new manager is fired. Rinse and repeat.
Problem is, nothing will change. Ole will be sacked and Ed will then have to sell a 8th-10th place Man United, probably minus Pogba, to a new manager. New manager will look at the state of us and say "I'm interested but only if you give me a LOT of money because I need a CDM, a midfielder, a RW, a Pogba replacement and a striker".
Ed will promise him the world, he'll sign and then by the time the window closes we'll have signed 2/5 players that the manager needed and things will go downhill yet again. The new manager will start griping when results start sliding, to protect his own interests, morale will be rock bottom and new manager is fired. Rinse and repeat.
What I can't work out is why that bounce was so pronounced at the start. For a while it really was like we'd got Fergie's United back. That says to me the players are capable of it. Whether it was the fitness problem often mentioned, or the fact that Real Madrid starting weighing in with Pogba around the time we lost to Arsenal and then we returned to the crap of the last few years, I don't know. But although new manager bounce is well known I still can't fathom how it then completely disappeared overnight. You could actually see it against Arsenal. Night and day.
There are a lot of parallels with Tampa Bay. It has to be said....
The only way out of this slide is for the Glazers to accidentally stumble on a completely unheralded young manager who is happy to not be backed in the window and proves to be the second coming of Klopp. Which I'm sure youll agree, is highly unlikely to happen.
Or we could replace them with Matic, Pogba and Fred. Even Angel Gomes.. I mean we do have these players. I’m sure Lampard would be fine. I mean it’s Paul matha fckin Pogba and we are here talking about Mason Mount
Frank Lampard got a job where he couldn’t sign no one. Let that sink in with your rubbish negativity.
Nothing wrong in installing a caretaker manager when you sack your manager in December.....But it’s utterly idiotic to give the caretaker manager the job full time on the basis of 15 games...,I still can’t come to terms with that decision.....We had just lost back to back games,the wheels were beginning to roll off and bang,we announce Ole as the full time manager!!
this is clearly what they were hoping Ole would be, not looking very likely at present.
Agree with a lot of what your saying.I”m not sure if Pochettino would even want to take over if we don’t create a support structure around him.Unless we appoint a top DOF,revamp our scouting network and create the sort of infrastructure around the manager that you see at clubs like City and Liverpool,I”m not sure if Pochettino would even want the job....
Poch doesn’t like directors of football and Poch just wants to be backed. Again we gave Solskjaer a £80m defender. I’m sure Poch will be fine.
I just put out a post on this very thread,saying that Pochettino won’t take the job unless we build the support structure around him.Unless we appoint a top DOF,revamp our scouting network,and create the sort of infrastructure that you see at the top clubs,I”m not sure if Pochettino would want to take over....
I hope your right...But honestly,are football managers competent enough to take transfer decisions on their own without any help?Just look at the kind of structure that’s been built at Liverpool and City?They completely back Guardiola and Klopp most of the time,but they also protect the long term interests of the club at times...
Just look at the way the City hierarchy over ruled Guardiola on the signing of Alexis Sanchez.Its no secret that Pep desperately wanted him,but when we went in for Sanchez and offered him a ridiculous wage,the city hierarchy just backed off...
Gosh, you're so bloody annoying.
You can not compare Chelsea's predicament, that team is a good team without signings, most of that squad played under Conte and Sarri, yes they lost Hazard and need a centre back and possibly a centre forward, the truth is Frank is getting an easy ride with the narrative can't sign any players.
If Conte was still there today, he would of needed a centre back,a mdifelder and centre forward, this is not taking into account the signing of the Croat or Jorghino, remember Chelsea had Drinkwater and Bak on their books.
If Sarri was still there, their back five would be the same, Kante would be in midfield, alongside Jorginho or the Croat from Real Madrid, and the front line would be the same minus probably Tammy, he would probably need a striker and midfielder.
This Chelsea team is good enough to get top 4, if they want to sure up their defence, switch to 352 or improve the overall defending of the team. Frank's Derby were exactly the same, when it came to defending.
Wonder if anybody knows if a caretaker manager becoming permanent has worked at any of the top clubs? I am sure there is somebody our there who can find out.
So many had convinced themselves that Chelsea were finished without Hazard. The transfer ban actually did them a favour. When a manager has lots of options like Chelsea do all over the pitch it makes the job much easier. That's ignoring that they already had a good system in place that got them 3rd and a Europa league win.
It might not, that by default doesn't then mean he is good enough either, though.
The truth is most football managers don't want a DoF. In fact having no doF is one of the perks of the United job for managers. Even Jose opposed it. We originally made it this way to give the manager extensive control over their purchases. It's till only recently that the fans started agitating for one but it certainly has its positives for managers
I swear that article was an essay's worth of what you read in your average redcafe one liner post.
So they didn't actually overrule him.
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