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Yes, he’s parking it at 0-0, which is much better.Atleast Solskajer does not park the bus like Mourinho did when we were leading 1-0.
Yes, he’s parking it at 0-0, which is much better.Atleast Solskajer does not park the bus like Mourinho did when we were leading 1-0.
.Is Solskjaer a manager?
Sorry but there are teams worse than United who still manage to play attacking football and have shots on goal.United clearly had issues in defence and Solskjaer has done something about it this summer. Not his fault that the Glazers did not give him more money for creative players that we also clearly need! Feck it took 4 months to negotiate deals for 3 players!
We have to look at what squad Solskjaer has right now, with only Pogba as the only creative player in midfield. How are we supposed to play a attacking fluent football? And with half of the few attacking players we have beeing injured also, what do people expect? miracles? Even Ferguson couldnt make this current team a PL winning team.
Atleast Solskajer does not park the bus like Mourinho did when we were leading 1-0.
Please give me any examples of us parking the bus at 0-0?Yes, he’s parking it at 0-0, which is much better.
Not registering a single shot on target and time wasting against mighty AZ?Please give me any examples of us parking the bus at 0-0?
None of the games we played in premier league have we parked the bus that ive seen.
Sorry but there are teams worse than United who still manage to play attacking football and have shots on goal.
We barely have any shots on goal, and you cannot blame the players ONLY for this. The manager has to in training coach them how to attack.
AZ Alkmar have players worse than United and looked like they were the only team looking to score a goal.
Our passing is as if we are playing a pre season friendly.
Did Greenwood not have a shot saved?Not registering a single shot on target and time wasting against mighty AZ?
/threadPerhaps not very attacking, but his football is certainly offensive
Did you even see the game? Greenwood had a shot on the keeper, Rashford should have gotten a clear penalty and AZ was time wasting areound 70th minute. Only reason de Gea was times wasting the last minutes was because Lingard got injured and we were 10 men in the end.Not registering a single shot on target and time wasting against mighty AZ?
I think it’s hard to be anything given how thin the squad is and how little general quality there is in it.If so, what's the evidence? His football is just as dull as Mourinho's.
When given money, his first instinct was to spend the bulk of it on two defenders. One of the two is a defensive FB - a position which in modern football is demands more attacking output than defensive nous.
So what makes you believe he is an attack minded manager?
Which report though? I've heard a lot of people repeating this but nobody seems to be able to produce a source. Press conferences are of course bullcrap always been that way but this sounds like bullcrap too. Also talking about injuries is one thing you don't want to disclose weaknesses in public - talking transfers towards the end of a season though? Why lie?I've learned not to listen to anything Ole says. He claimed Pogba and Rashford were 100% fit after the Arsenal game after Sky Sports brought it up as a potential explanation for their performances. A few days later we're told Pogba has been carrying a foot injury since the Southampton game.
We really don't. We have a top 8 squad maybe.We all know the squad is not a world beater, but we still have a top 5 squad. We should had been doing much better performance wise.
He’s not new to management though. He’s been a manager for about ten years. He’s just not very good and should never have been given the job in the first place.He has no strategical style at the moment. He's someone whose still very new management, so defining him in a style doesnt really make sense.
Just like assigning him to rebuild manchester united when he hasnt even defined or developed his coaching philosophy
It is easier to create chances when you setup to defend and then exploit the space through counter attacks. Trying to create openings in a congested space requires players to be at the top of their game, with consistency and creativity. Reason why we were able to do well in our run of wins last season was that teams were not afraid to play out against us and we were devastating on the counter.Sorry but there are teams worse than United who still manage to play attacking football and have shots on goal.
We barely have any shots on goal, and you cannot blame the players ONLY for this. The manager has to in training coach them how to attack.
AZ Alkmar have players worse than United and looked like they were the only team looking to score a goal.
Our passing is as if we are playing a pre season friendly.
Which one? The one that was blocked in the first half before reaching the keeper?Did you even see the game? Greenwood had a shot on the keeper, Rashford should have gotten a clear penalty and AZ was time wasting areound 70th minute. Only reason de Gea was times wasting the last minutes was because Lingard got injured and we were 10 men in the end.
I honestly can’t remember Greenwood having a shot on target. There was a shot blocked in the first half but that isn’t counted as one.Did Greenwood not have a shot saved?
Not to disagree with the overall sentiments, but surely that was a shot on target?!
There can be more than one problem. The owners and CEO may need replacing but that doesn't excuse Ole's general lack of management skills. Consistently this season we are struggling against mid table sloggers who are far from setting the world alight. We look clueless and we have no plan B.I'd like to see what kind of attacking output is possible if you lost 2 out of 3 of your best goalscorers without replacement.
People here are focusing on the wrong problem.
The amount of times we have lost a 1-0 lead because we didn't follow through on our initial football points against that. Without going to much into the past, we have ceded 1-0 leads against Arsenal, Wolves, Southampton and Rochdale in this very season.Atleast Solskajer does not park the bus like Mourinho did when we were leading 1-0.
It is easier to create chances when you setup to defend and then exploit the space through counter attacks. Trying to create openings in a congested space requires players to be at the top of their game, with consistency and creativity. Reason why we were able to do well in our run of wins last season was that teams were not afraid to play out against us and we were devastating on the counter.
Managers of smaller clubs will not be criticised if they setup the team to defend deep and play counter attacking football, you can’t do that with a club of Man United’s standing, as Jose found out.
No, you're right - it doesn't look like Ole is the manager going forward. However, there are multiple threads focusing on Ole, while getting just a new manager will paper over the again.There can be more than one problem. The owners and CEO may need replacing but that doesn't excuse Ole's general lack of management skills. Consistently this season we are struggling against mid table sloggers who are far from setting the world alight. We look clueless and we have no plan B.
Have you honestly seen anything in the way United have played since Ole signed the contract that would suggest a definite plan or approach? Seems to be a very vague counter attacking approach mixed with being clueless when we're in possession. For all their faults at least you knew the kind of football LVG and Mou were playing.
That might have been his biggest mistake if that was indeed his decision. Possible he wasn't backed, but couldn't say so publically.Also Ole's comments suggest he had the chance to sign strikers but didn't believe they were the right fit so it might not all be on the board if he chose to trust youth over a new striker.
Absolutely. Everything was great when Pogba was played as a number 10 when Ole first took over. I am amazed we didn’t go for a DM in the summer to allow Pogba to play just behind the striker.No fans have silly perspective about attacking football and what constitutes it's reputation. Even when we was on our winning run the team was not playing attacking football, we transitioned the ball from back to front quickly which provided opportunities to score. Never once under Ole have we looked dynamic in phases / patterns of play. There's never been any progressive movements from our attacking players to indicate any significance in instructions / coaching. We never string more than three passes together to score. You don't need 11 Ronaldo's to move the ball around the field that's why even if the glazers gave Ole 400 million the team would still be struggling. Ian Holloway's Blackpool had more attacking impetus than anything under Solskjaer in the league. Paul Pogba having a purple patch is what got Ole the job, there's no merit in his influence on the team whatsoever.
Our players might be poor but they are no way worse than AZ players, Rochdale, West Ham, Crystal Palace.I think Ole wants to be an attacking manager, but doesn't know how to implement it.
When he was at Cardiff, there is a clip of him shouting at players and telling them to shoot and have attempts at goal, but if your forwards aren't getting any service, then they can't shoot. Our attackers don't get the ball in anything like an attacking area on the whole.
It's not all on Ole though. What are the rest of the coaching staff doing? Why are we persisting with a formation that doesn't match or compliment our players?
We said similar under the last few manager though. Our players are poor.
this is spot on. Experienced managers won’t do that. Especially the players we moved on. Those were not even the ones we needed to get rid of first. The manager essentially have to be smart enough to avoid being in the situation that he’s put himself in.Look, if Ole thinks the boards going to spent 300-400m for him, he's naively stupid. If ole thinks his strikeforce is adequate then he's naively stupid, if Ole thinks Lukaku/Sanchez are so bad he won't ever gonna need them ever in case of injury or form then he's naively stupid.
I've said before, coming in as a new manager (let alone interim manager) and acting Django selling the deadwoods are a sign of naive manager, especially if 3 mths onwards he's left with bare bone squad. Stupid from his part.
He has 10 months with the team, he should have known what Gomez, Chong, Greenwood are capable of. He should have had a clear vision of how he wants to play, which player he needs, how much budget he has, how to stretch the budget to try and plug every hole. He should have known Pogba's best position in 10 months, if he doesn't know he can ask him directly. Carrick/Mckenna has been with us for 4 years, what input do they have?
If blaming ed / jose / moyes makes us feel better and keeping that glimmer of hope (or delusion) alive, then we too deserve this situation.
Moyes should have taught us, if he walks talks coach like a midtable manager, chances are he is a midtable manager