Yes, he’s parking it at 0-0, which is much better.
Is Solskjaer an attacking manager?
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He's pragmatic and clueless on how to set up an attacking team.
5 games win in 22 games, two winners from a penalty goal
2-1 West Ham - Pogba two penalty goal. 1-0 Leicester City - Rashford goal
Chelsea game may be debate as we scored a penalty and didn't concede a goal but has scored 3 goals from open play.
This is damning stats, we should never rely on a penalty to win the game.
Ole claimed that we should have gotten the penalty against Arsenal because of handball and a penalty against AK. He's a delusion and tired of his excuses
2-1 West Ham - Pogba two penalty goal. 1-0 Leicester City - Rashford goal
Chelsea game may be debate as we scored a penalty and didn't concede a goal but has scored 3 goals from open play.
This is damning stats, we should never rely on a penalty to win the game.
Ole claimed that we should have gotten the penalty against Arsenal because of handball and a penalty against AK. He's a delusion and tired of his excuses
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He has no strategical style at the moment. He's someone whose still very new management, so defining him in a style doesnt really make sense.
Just like assigning him to rebuild manchester united when he hasnt even defined or developed his coaching philosophy
Just like assigning him to rebuild manchester united when he hasnt even defined or developed his coaching philosophy
Sorry but there are teams worse than United who still manage to play attacking football and have shots on goal.
We barely have any shots on goal, and you cannot blame the players ONLY for this. The manager has to in training coach them how to attack.
AZ Alkmar have players worse than United and looked like they were the only team looking to score a goal.
Our passing is as if we are playing a pre season friendly.
He talks about attacking and entertaining fans, but it seems he can’t implement it on the pitch. He is sadly a bit out of his depth - which you’d expect as even David Moyes has more managerial experience than Ole.
Ole isn’t the only inexperienced manager to take a big role, but other clubs had the framework and support from above to help out. Ole never stood a chance in the long term.
Ole isn’t the only inexperienced manager to take a big role, but other clubs had the framework and support from above to help out. Ole never stood a chance in the long term.
It's not really clear what he is trying to implement because he's failing so completely in doing it.
Please give me any examples of us parking the bus at 0-0?Yes, he’s parking it at 0-0, which is much better.
None of the games we played in premier league have we parked the bus that ive seen.
We all know the squad is not a world beater, but we still have a top 5 squad. We should had been doing much better performance wise.
Not registering a single shot on target and time wasting against mighty AZ?
We clearly need better players. Of course the manager and coaches have som blame too in this but blaming the manager solely for not playing good with a mediocre squad i feel is wrong. Why are not more poeple looking at the Glazers? they put us in this mess.
Did Greenwood not have a shot saved?
Not to disagree with the overall sentiments, but surely that was a shot on target?!
/threadPerhaps not very attacking, but his football is certainly offensive
It attacks my sanity.
Did you even see the game? Greenwood had a shot on the keeper, Rashford should have gotten a clear penalty and AZ was time wasting areound 70th minute. Only reason de Gea was times wasting the last minutes was because Lingard got injured and we were 10 men in the end.
I love his interviews though. They are so so positive. He reminds me of benigni in life is beautiful
I think it’s hard to be anything given how thin the squad is and how little general quality there is in it.
You also have to build attacks from a solid base to allow your players to go forward with less fear and at the start of the season that was there with Shaw and Bissaka pushed right up but given the limitations of our midfield I can see why fullback positions have been toned down a bit.
My main concern is in pre-season we pressed high and ferociously and there has been very little evidence of that sort of intensity which again I guess could be down to how light the squad is but if you knew you were going in to the season by gutting and clearing out what you didn’t want why train for a style which requires numbers and high energy. It also happens to increase the chance of injuries.
Personally I think he is an attacking manager but at the moment we really don’t have the squad or players to do anything other than what we are doing.
Which report though? I've heard a lot of people repeating this but nobody seems to be able to produce a source. Press conferences are of course bullcrap always been that way but this sounds like bullcrap too. Also talking about injuries is one thing you don't want to disclose weaknesses in public - talking transfers towards the end of a season though? Why lie?
We really don't. We have a top 8 squad maybe.
He’s not new to management though. He’s been a manager for about ten years. He’s just not very good and should never have been given the job in the first place.
Its easy to blame the manager and I suppose he has to take a lot of criticism in how we are playing.
At the end of the day he is responsible for our style of play and we are playing god awful football at times.
Saying that, the line ups im seeing lately has to be the worst ive seen in many a year and the squad is in a terrible state, Im really not sure any manager could be successful with this bunch.
How it has got to this? you will have to look upstairs for the ineptness, giving players new deals when they are so obviously well past their best and not replacing them with hungrier better players is beyond me.
Poor old Ole may have been in the wrong place and the wrong time, sure he gets to live the dream as United's manager but it may well turn out to be a nightmare job for him and a lot of the issues were not his making.
At the end of the day he is responsible for our style of play and we are playing god awful football at times.
Saying that, the line ups im seeing lately has to be the worst ive seen in many a year and the squad is in a terrible state, Im really not sure any manager could be successful with this bunch.
How it has got to this? you will have to look upstairs for the ineptness, giving players new deals when they are so obviously well past their best and not replacing them with hungrier better players is beyond me.
Poor old Ole may have been in the wrong place and the wrong time, sure he gets to live the dream as United's manager but it may well turn out to be a nightmare job for him and a lot of the issues were not his making.
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I'd like to see what kind of attacking output is possible if you lost 2 out of 3 of your best goalscorers without replacement.
People here are focusing on the wrong problem.
People here are focusing on the wrong problem.
It is easier to create chances when you setup to defend and then exploit the space through counter attacks. Trying to create openings in a congested space requires players to be at the top of their game, with consistency and creativity. Reason why we were able to do well in our run of wins last season was that teams were not afraid to play out against us and we were devastating on the counter.
Managers of smaller clubs will not be criticised if they setup the team to defend deep and play counter attacking football, you can’t do that with a club of Man United’s standing, as Jose found out.
Which one? The one that was blocked in the first half before reaching the keeper?
AZ were more threatening and generally the “attacking” side of the two.
I honestly can’t remember Greenwood having a shot on target. There was a shot blocked in the first half but that isn’t counted as one.
There can be more than one problem. The owners and CEO may need replacing but that doesn't excuse Ole's general lack of management skills. Consistently this season we are struggling against mid table sloggers who are far from setting the world alight. We look clueless and we have no plan B.
Also Ole's comments suggest he had the chance to sign strikers but didn't believe they were the right fit so it might not all be on the board if he chose to trust youth over a new striker.
Have you honestly seen anything in the way United have played since Ole signed the contract that would suggest a definite plan or approach? Seems to be a very vague counter attacking approach mixed with being clueless when we're in possession. For all their faults at least you knew the kind of football LVG and Mou were playing.
The amount of times we have lost a 1-0 lead because we didn't follow through on our initial football points against that. Without going to much into the past, we have ceded 1-0 leads against Arsenal, Wolves, Southampton and Rochdale in this very season.
For some reason, the default response to going ahead is thinking that we wouldn't definitely score again in a proactive manner, so no matter which team it is, we go into a counter-attacking mode and hand the emphasis to our opponents. Don't think this is a much better approach than Mourinho's.
Yeah I agree but Jose was his style and he does that wherever he goes. With Ole the problem is he keeps saying the Manutd way and when he used to play.
Utd played counter attack away from home but at home we used to dominate games, teams were scared of coming to Old Trafford. Right now fans are scared for Utd in EVERY game as to what will happen.
No, you're right - it doesn't look like Ole is the manager going forward. However, there are multiple threads focusing on Ole, while getting just a new manager will paper over the again.
Get a DoF - it's been way overdue for years - and strengthen the squad with at least 3 players (especially a striker).
Try to not get a caretaker manager or the next-best guy currently available.
That might have been his biggest mistake if that was indeed his decision. Possible he wasn't backed, but couldn't say so publically.
Does Ole even have a style? I don't see anything. It's neither offensive nor defensive. Everything is off the cuff, aimless football. The players seem to have nonsense of direction or instruction from the 'coaching' staff. It seems to be the same message every game - 'go out there and have fun', which may have worked for the greatest man-manager of all time in Sir Alex, but Ole does not have anywhere near that personality.
Compare that with Pep, a manager that pays attention to the smallest minutiae of the game. Every player has strict instructions (with the exception of one or two), and if they aren't followed they're out of the team.
Ole should never have started this season as manager.
Compare that with Pep, a manager that pays attention to the smallest minutiae of the game. Every player has strict instructions (with the exception of one or two), and if they aren't followed they're out of the team.
Ole should never have started this season as manager.
Absolutely. Everything was great when Pogba was played as a number 10 when Ole first took over. I am amazed we didn’t go for a DM in the summer to allow Pogba to play just behind the striker.
Our form dipped once Pogba moved back to the midfield two and he had less influence on our forward play. I am not blaming our terrible form just on Pogba, but he is the only player that can pass through the defence and actually takes a gamble on a forward ball rather than safe possession.
Last nights game was a perfect example on why we are so rubbish. Matic-Fred-Gomes.
Matic - passed sideways all game
Fred - can’t actually pass, he lost possession so many times
Gomes - too much expectation on a youth player to pull the strings
No, he isn't. He's essentially very similar to Moyes, in that he's been honed in very traditional, old-fashioned coaching methods and values.
These type of tactics and methods will work just fine in the likes of the Norwegian league, where the talent level is relatively poor and he's not going up against top-class coaches or opposition players. But they will not shine in the better leagues in Europe.
These type of tactics and methods will work just fine in the likes of the Norwegian league, where the talent level is relatively poor and he's not going up against top-class coaches or opposition players. But they will not shine in the better leagues in Europe.
I think Ole wants to be an attacking manager, but doesn't know how to implement it.
When he was at Cardiff, there is a clip of him shouting at players and telling them to shoot and have attempts at goal, but if your forwards aren't getting any service, then they can't shoot. Our attackers don't get the ball in anything like an attacking area on the whole.
It's not all on Ole though. What are the rest of the coaching staff doing? Why are we persisting with a formation that doesn't match or compliment our players?
We said similar under the last few manager though. Our players are poor.
When he was at Cardiff, there is a clip of him shouting at players and telling them to shoot and have attempts at goal, but if your forwards aren't getting any service, then they can't shoot. Our attackers don't get the ball in anything like an attacking area on the whole.
It's not all on Ole though. What are the rest of the coaching staff doing? Why are we persisting with a formation that doesn't match or compliment our players?
We said similar under the last few manager though. Our players are poor.
Our players might be poor but they are no way worse than AZ players, Rochdale, West Ham, Crystal Palace.
The main problem is our football is played at two speeds. Slow and stop.
Ole is to management what Woodward is to chief executives. As if we've got both of them at the same club.
Another way you can look at it is him v Lampard. We beat them 4-0 first game and slowly regressed. Lamps has got them playing better and winning with an attacking stylex which you can see. Ole is a shambles in comparison
Not to cruel but you could remove the word "attacking" from the thread title and it would still be a fair question.
This chart tells you all you need to know: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-exper...10/3/287a3ca9-30e7-4988-b20f-f39808a951b4.png
It illustrates our touches after more than half an hour of play. Not a single touch in or even near the opposition's box!!
It illustrates our touches after more than half an hour of play. Not a single touch in or even near the opposition's box!!
this is spot on. Experienced managers won’t do that. Especially the players we moved on. Those were not even the ones we needed to get rid of first. The manager essentially have to be smart enough to avoid being in the situation that he’s put himself in.