I have so far not seen a proper replay of the Mane pen incident.
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
More of a Spice boys fan actually. Thought those white suits we wore in the 1996 FA Cup final were the dogs bollocks. Wasn't arsed about the result, just kept replaying the pre-match walkabout & how good our boys looked.
Lucky Dippers.
Agree, what's the point of VAR! If they except that it's a dive! Except that the player has deceived the ref, by basically cheating, this is what VAR was supposed to have been brought in for? Seems to me it's being used for teams to get the results that others deem they should get?.. so far VAR is hopeless and not needed. Unless it's not being used correctly.
You’re conveniently forgetting Mane was clean thru and missed and he also hit the post against Sheffield United. We should have been two up by HT. Overall it was a very average performance but if opposition keepers want to help us out what can we do?
But I think you’ll likely end our winning run. Our record at Old Trafford is woeful.
I don't think its accurate to compare winning a penalty to committing a crime?
Obviously we all have some bias towards our own clubs. If Rashford or Lingard did what Mane did, I doubt there would be the same outcry.
Interestingly nobody is talking about the Choudhury foul that injured Salah when he was in a good attacking position. Was that cheating that deserves to be called out?
Var is far from perfect at the moment, but if a referee gives a 50/50 penalty, and Var has a good look at it and decides its not clearly or obviously not a penalty then you can't really argue with that.
Felipe Anderson with a shocking miss.
They create their own luck:
At this point, I'm more worried about us not burying our chances when they come. We aren't always going to get luck like this; what in the world was Albrighton doing with the ball? Boot it out and get the point.
The amount of luck liverpool had over past 2 seasons is beyond ridiculous. I recall that goal (against everton?) where the ball just bounced and ended in goal. I don't recall any team with such freakish luck, ever. Not even Madrid comes near.
The fact that you think VAR is competent and impartial renders your opinion useless to me. Have you seen the number of poor calls made through out the season? Laporte one, David Silva, Martial, even Liverpool had one just to name a few. They will not overrule the onfield ref until there is a mistaken identity or there is absolutely no contact at all.
And Liverpool have still done sweet FA in the premier league. Just imagine if they actually do win something.
Zaha is class.
Isn't that the point of VAR though? It is to fix obvious errors, not re-referee subjective decisions.
Not sure why play was stopped there.
Prophetic
What?High foot even though Ayoze Perez got in first
Was it high though?
High boot. You're welcome.
Man United and man city don't think it's a penalty but liverpool fan do. In conclusion, you can not tackle like this in the box, it's a penalty.
It was near VVD's head. It was always going to get called, even though it probably shouldn't.
Yes. According to the ref who makes that call.
Right now in the PL, its sole purpose is to check offside calls pretty much. They don't even fix the obvious errors. If the ref calls it, the call won't be overturned and if he doesn't, var doesn't give a *.
For example, check out the David Silva incident vs Bournemouth. Blindingly obvious pen and VAR checked and deemed it as a not obvious error.
I'm not talking about crimes though really am I. I'm using it as an analogy. Is it okay to cheat because others have cheated?
Don't give me the nonsense about VAR not thinking it wasn't a penalty. It's obviously been agreed at referee level that they will basically not overturn a single penalty call either way this season. There's been several really awful calls this season so far and none have been overturned. Not one on field penalty decision has been overturned by VAR yet.
Lastly, when you say the choudary foul being called... he got booked so yes it was called as an offence. So yes, it was recognised as being against the rules of football unlike the pathetic dive by Mane which was incorrectly rewarded with as penalty. 3 game retrospective ban for diving would be just. He clutched the wrong ankle ffs.
I didn't see the Silva incident, but this one there was contact and ref deemed it was enough to award the pen. Overturning the decision because the VAR ref thinks differently sets a bad precedent. It's supposed to fix obvious errors.
We can and will.
I suggest you take a look at the following video if you haven't already.
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The defender pokes a leg out in the general direction of Mane who *some 20 minutes later* tumbles to the ground in the most theatrical manner possible 'cos ze Germans are coming or something. Shameful dive that should result in a ban. It won't though.
It doesn't fix any errors as of now. Obvious or non obvious. It's practically useless.
VVD leans down, closes his eyes and rushes in, while Perez clearly is first on the ball. Another match-defining moment in favour of the scousers.
Depends on the distinction you are making between obvious and non-obvious. The Mane pen was NOT obvious.
30 games to go, I simply don't see this running that long.
It seems a bit of an epidemic in football these days, players don't like the sense first approach.
I even saw it in my Wycombe boys in league 1. Mid has it on the edge of his own box, instead of clearing it, gives it away, and they score quite soon after.
Can't blame the ref there. High boots are pretty dangerous when the player ducks their head down to waist height.
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Can someone explain me the purpose of VAR. Seriously I dont fecking get it. Surely it is to review decisions to then make the correct call?
In this case you can clearly see Mane dived like a pussy that he is. The VAR should have overturned the decision. Honestly the officials need investigating and their bank accounts frozen. Clear as day there is an agenda to ensure Liverpool win the Premier league. Some romantic fantasy that this club has endured hard times therefore has the right to win the league. Mane should be retrospecitvely banned for 5 games and the referee should never officiate in the Premier league again
In this case you can clearly see Mane dived like a pussy that he is. The VAR should have overturned the decision. Honestly the officials need investigating and their bank accounts frozen. Clear as day there is an agenda to ensure Liverpool win the Premier league. Some romantic fantasy that this club has endured hard times therefore has the right to win the league. Mane should be retrospecitvely banned for 5 games and the referee should never officiate in the Premier league again
Penalty and a yellow for Mané for simulation for me.
Also they won the xG 2.7 - 0.4 without the penalty. They've been lucky a few times this season. Today wasn't one of those.
Also they won the xG 2.7 - 0.4 without the penalty. They've been lucky a few times this season. Today wasn't one of those.
Haller time.
West Ham have such an exciting front four when it all clicks.
West Ham have such an exciting front four when it all clicks.
What a play
Great goal by West Ham. They play good stuff. Both teams have impressed me.