McDonald’s Chief Executive Fired Over Relationship with Employee

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The power dynamic between a manager and an employee, particularly if the manager runs the entire company, can never be equal. It's just not a good idea.
 

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Not much point having policies on these things if they’re not enforced.
 

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The power dynamic between a manager and an employee, particularly if the manager runs the entire company, can never be equal. It's just not a good idea.
It may not be a good idea, and I'm inclined to agree, but I don't think it warrants being a sackable offence.

Not much point having policies on these things if they’re not enforced.
I don't think these policies should be legal.
 

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You can't help who you fall for, and as long as nobody i.e a child is being harmed then it's up to the two adults to make it work within the business, making sure conflicts are avoided etc. People at work date all the time, my partner of 18 months I work with. It would be weird for it to be illegal for a select group of people because they happen to have certain positions but not others who are free to do as they please. If it goes sour and work gets affected, well that's on those guys. Be adults about it or leave at that point if you can't do your duties.

It's different I think if it's a direct report, and there's nobody else they can report to from a conflict of interest point of view but again I would think things would only be an issue if and when a conflict/inappropriate benefit had clearly happened and the issue in this case would be the conflict itself and not the relationship.
 

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I don't think a business has any right dictating who their employees can and cannot have a relationship with. If it's between two consenting adults then there really ought not to be a problem.
The problem is the power dynamics in relation to managers and subordinates, especially at his level.
 

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You can't help who you fall for, and as long as nobody i.e a child is being harmed then it's up to the two adults to make it work within the business, making sure conflicts are avoided etc. People at work date all the time, my partner of 18 months I work with. It would be weird for it to be illegal for a select group of people because they happen to have certain positions but not others who are free to do as they please.
I met my wife at work and we work together now, but if the firm had a notification policy we’d have followed it.
 

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I don't think a business has any right dictating who their employees can and cannot have a relationship with. If it's between two consenting adults then there really ought not to be a problem.
Ok but what about the impact said relationship has on other employees? How do they know they are being treated fairly?
 

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Ok but what about the impact said relationship has on other employees? How do they know they are being treated fairly?
Well there are legal avenues you can go down if you start being treated unfairly, but two adults should be capable of being in an adult relationship and not letting it affect their work. If that does happen then remove them from their position by all means. Firing them for simply being in a relationship however is wrong.
 

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Used to work for a high street bank and if two of you got together there was nothing official but one of you would be moved to the closest branch.

Seemed to work.
 

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Understandable from McDonald's perspective, can massively open themselves up to a whole host of issues if the relationship ended poorly.
 

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Sure, but if your work had a no relationships policy then you wouldn't be married right now. Or you'd have had to leave your job way in advance without knowing if it was even going to work out.
True, a straight up “no relationships” rule does seem impractical. I know lots of places have them though.
 

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Can't see anywhere that specifies if it's someone who reports to him, and if not don't see its a big deal.

Big decision though so fair play to them as he's not some lame duck and they are using this as an excuse to get rid.
 

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Agreed that it's wrong. A company shouldn't be able to dictate what goes in your private life.

Of course it can lead to complications or unfair treatment but that should be dealt with if it happens.

I'm sure many people have met the love of their life at work, so to be denied that is pretty oppressive if you ask me.
 

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Well there are legal avenues you can go down if you start being treated unfairly, but two adults should be capable of being in an adult relationship and not letting it affect their work. If that does happen then remove them from their position by all means. Firing them for simply being in a relationship however is wrong.
If there was a policy and he didn't follow it then I understand the firing. The issue isn't being in a relationship, it's leaving the company open to claims of discrimination because "she's sleeping with the CEO, and that's why she got a promotion".

I heard of a case at my company where a boss started a relationship with someone 2 levels below him. Once they reported it, HR worked with the two to find a new role for the lady outside of the guy's chain of command.
 

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Agreed that it's wrong. A company shouldn't be able to dictate what goes in your private life.
The argument from the business' side would be that they aren't - they're only affecting the part of your life that inolves them.
 

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What business is it of theirs, and why do they care?
 
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McDonald's boss Steve Easterbrook fired after dating employee

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50283720

Not sure why a consensual relationship should lead to anybody being fired, to be honest.

Anyone agree with this?
Any individual agreement or disagreement is a moot point. As I understand, this is written into McDonald's management contracts, which they all sign and agree to abide by. I'm sure Easterbrook knew what he was doing was against company policy and a sackable offence.

A real shame for him, as he was a very smart guy and had done wonders for McD's as CEO.
 

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I met my wife at work and we work together now, but if the firm had a notification policy we’d have followed it.
I also did the same, but it wasn't an issue at that firm during those days. Don't work there now, so it might have changed in these millennial times.

How would you have dealt with the situation if that place of work had a non fraternising policy in place? eg: like McDonalds.
 

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Agreed that it's wrong. A company shouldn't be able to dictate what goes in your private life.

Of course it can lead to complications or unfair treatment but that should be dealt with if it happens.

I'm sure many people have met the love of their life at work, so to be denied that is pretty oppressive if you ask me.
If its stated in the contract, surely then the person can choose not to work for that employer?
 

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I guess if you’re CEO at McDonald’s you should be adapt at slipping meat in a bun
 

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If its stated in the contract, surely then the person can choose not to work for that employer?
Is that reasonable in practice, though? Many people can’t even choose to find other work.

Would we say the same thing to employees if employers were similarly oppressive about something else?