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On the Taxation discussion. There should be progressive taxation that taxes high earnersfairly.
But importantly the loop hole that allows corporation to transfer funds to off shore accounts must be closed.

For now we need to introduce wealth tax to tax those trillions that are in off shore accounts.
 
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Bloomberg has more money than he can spend. He's what Trump pretends to be.
True... But as i say I think you have to register a certain % in so many polls to be in the December debate (until he officially enters I think he won't be included in a lot of those polls) ... And although he has a fek tons of cash doesn't he have to have a certain number of individual donations as well (number of doners not the total amount)
I guess I'm just trying to work out the timeline / viability of him getting in the December debate which would seem helpful if he wants to have some momentum for Iowa (Feb 3)
 

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True... But as we say I think you have to register a certain % in so many polls to be in the December debate (until he officially enters I think he won't be included in a lot of those polls) ... And although he has a fek tons of cash doesn't he have to have a certain number of individual donations as well (number of doners not the total amount)
I guess I'm just trying to work out the timeline / viability of him getting in the December debate which would seem helpful if he wants to have some momentum for Iowa (Feb 3)
If I remember correctly a lot of the gop third stringers like Huckabee and Carson were on the card in Iowa in 2016 so Bloomberg polling at 4% could probably be there but I'm not sure if the RNC and dnc have similar criteria.
 

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If I remember correctly a lot of the gop third stringers like Huckabee and Carson were on the card in Iowa in 2016 so Bloomberg polling at 4% could probably be there but I'm not sure if the RNC and dnc have similar criteria.
He has the money to do what he wants for sure
But the qualification criteria for the debates has changed this time... And for sure I think being in the December debate would be a big advantage because Xmas and new year it will be hard to cut through and make an impression and then he only has a few weeks in Jan
If he is going to make a move (and it's by no means certain) I think he needs to move in the next 2 weeks to focus on that December debate and get himself in the mix... He can afford to blitz the advertising but he will still need some good organisers on the ground and quickly
 

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I dislike Bloomberg. While he was an effective mayor of the city, he instituted stop and frisk and changed the city's term limits law to run a third time, which was a ridiculous power grab.
 

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Found the info

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The new polling requirements could endanger all but the top five candidates as participants will have to gain support of 4% in at least four DNC-approved national or early-state polls. They can also qualify by hitting 6% in two approved early-state polls.

  • Candidates also need donations from at least 200,000 unique donors, with a minimum of 800 donors in 20 states.
The state of play: Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris have managed to hit those those thresholds so far, but second-tier candidates could face an uphill battle.

  • The cutoff date to make the sixth debate is Dec. 12.
So he has a month basically and needs to register the 4%

But 200000 individual doners that's going to be very hard to hit I think if he does not launch quickly... Even allowing for the fact he has plenty of cash to throw at a launch himself
 

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All of America’s 607 Billionaires Must Run for President
Michael Bloomberg, Bloomberg L.P.

PROS: At 5’7”, would be the shortest U.S. president since William McKinley.
CONS: Is a tough sell as a Democratic candidate since he’s a Republican.

Jeff Bezos, Amazon

PROS: Harnessed the kind of aggression and lust for dominance that other humans have used for war to create a mechanism for online shopping.
CONS: Will, if the opportunity arises, abandon us to become President of Space.

Bill Gates, Microsoft

PROS: Unlike most billionaires, seems aware that 1) non-billionaires can be afflicted with disease and 2) this is bad.
CONS: Murdered Jeffrey Epstein.

Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook

PROS: Speaks Mandarin, so can supervise the impending merger of American surveillance capitalism and Chinese surveillance communism.
CONS: Believes that Silicon Valley “is an extremely left-leaning place,” suggesting that he’s never been anywhere else on earth.

Sheldon Adelson, Las Vegas Sands Corporation

PROS: His administration would answer the question, “What would it be like if Jabba the Hutt were president?”
CONS: Probably nothing unless you think it would be bad for America to suddenly nuke Iran.

David Koch, Koch Industries

PROS: There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the president has to be alive.
CONS: Redundant, we’re already going to be ruled for the next 1,000 years by the nightmarish consequences of his climate denialism.

The Entire Walton Family, Walmart

PROS: As of this moment, the heirs of Walmart founder Sam Walton have a combined $200 billion, almost twice as much as Jeff Bezos. They could deliver addresses from the Oval Office, taunting him in unison.
CONS: Get ready for the new minimum wage of $0.37.

Eduardo Saverin, Facebook

PROS: Could inspire Americans to make $10 billion by attending Harvard at the same time as Mark Zuckerberg.
CONS: Renounced his U.S. citizenship to avoid taxes, but maybe he could be lured back if we all apologize.

Ken Griffin, Citadel

PROS: Embodies Schrödinger’s Paradox: He can explain that he is not driven by money while simultaneously saying we better not tax him more because he’s driven by money.
CONS: Only spent $238 million on his New York penthouse. Americans want a president who lives large.

Kylie Jenner, Kylie Cosmetics

PROS: Uses makeup both more skillfully and more sparingly than Donald Trump.
CONS: None.

Pierre Omidyar, eBay

PROS: Handsome, kind, wise; like Bloomberg, already has a media outlet up and running.
CONS: Campaigns are expensive, and we can think of far better uses for that money. (Unlike Bloomberg Media Group, The Intercept is a non-profit.)
https://theintercept.com/2019/11/10/all-of-americas-607-billionaires-must-run-for-president/
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And so Seneca said to Nero don't play with matches, and always keep some fresh aqua to hand in one of them ancient pots. And from that day forth the emperor never went thirsty again.
 

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Oh, and one other thing: “Stay hydrated”

She laughed. And ever since, she's made sure her car is well stocked with bottled water
Thanks. for. that.
 

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Been thinking about this a bit. I don’t see how a mandatory buyback would pass the courts. Unless we see big SC changes. Let’s not forget “unconstitutional” and “immoral” are not the same thing, and I say that as someone who really cares about upholding constitutions.

Aside from that how would it work in practice? The circles I move in, the gun owners I know aren’t going to barricade the streets and doors and start shooting, but some are. Wouldn’t there be chaos or would the south be better than I’m giving it credit for? Would a lot of officers/agents actually even carry this out?
 

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Been thinking about this a bit. I don’t see how a mandatory buyback would pass the courts. Unless we see big SC changes. Let’s not forget “unconstitutional” and “immoral” are not the same thing, and I say that as someone who really cares about upholding constitutions.

Aside from that how would it work in practice? The circles I move in, the gun owners I know aren’t going to barricade the streets and doors and start shooting, but some are. Wouldn’t there be chaos or would the south be better than I’m giving it credit for? Would a lot of officers/agents actually even carry this out?
what would be un-consitutional about it?
make guns (or certain types) illegal people have till day X to hand them in (and can be compensated) or if not they are facing life imprisonment for owning them?
 
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