Sterling used the same tactic as what the other shorter men would do. If you picked up a fight against someone not your own size (taller), haven't landed a punch, it became social media drama and somehow you saw him on another day struggling and almost cries himself to sleep, You help him. It's a golden chance. It helps you to win the entire fight and makes you less gormless than when you tried to pick up a fight. You might be short but you are the bigger man. And then you become best friends so that the next time you want to pick up a fight against a taller man, you have a pokeman of similar height to unleash.
Raheem Sterling vs Joe Gomez
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The player did something wrong. If he gets dropped for it the blame lies with the player, not the manager.
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It's mental how much of a story this has become.
Southgate has made a right balls up of this.
What was Gomez thinking when he was challenging Sterling at Anfield? It's a bit daft to try to wind him up, given you are team-mates for England and have a completely different status in England's team. Imagine a nobody Argentinean player winding Messi up and then hoping everything's going to be fine when they join Argentina's team. Both Sterling for his follow-up reaction and Gomez are in the wrong. The latter was influenced by the crowd though. Or the manager. Sterling was causing them serious problems and they tried to rile him up.
How thick do you have to be to boo Gomez. 
Does anyone think Sterling will get punished by his club as well?
Does anyone think Sterling will get punished by his club as well?
Why would City punish Sterling? Guardiola would probably applaud his reaction.How thick do you have to be to boo Gomez.
Does anyone think Sterling will get punished by his club as well?
Southgate has made a big mistake with his handling of the situation.
Stupid comment, Gomez isn't a no mark, he is one of the more talented young cbs in the world, and even if he wasn't it has no relevance, it's men's football not 'mean girls'
Gross misconduct by one of their employees. Doubt anyone at City is too impressed by that. It may have happened on International duty but they are the ones paying his wages and he his representing his club as well. We have just learnt what kind of fines are in place for being late to a meeting at Chelsea. I wonder where assaulting your teammate in the canteen ranks.
One of the more talented CBs in the world who is being benched by Lovren. He might be talented but he is a no mark right now, especially in the context of England's team when compared to Sterling. The second part of your comment doesn't hold water either. There is a hierarchy in football and youngsters are not supposed to bully senior team-mates (even if they're team-mates only at international level) who have a completely different status. That's how life works, nothing to do with being men's football. It's a pretty simple thing you might have failed to notice.
Ultimately, the crowd has played a role for the altercation with its hatred toward Sterling. Liverpool fans are being daft if they can't see the connection.
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I honestly believe Guardiola fuels his players to be sore losers and wants them to be confident enough to not allow opponents to humiliate them on the pitch. It's not a pleasant trait to have, but in reality most people at the top of their respective field have a huge ego and would not roll over for anyone.
Your comment, surely.
Yes being benched by Lovren, the same way he was benching Lovren at the start of last season, every Liverpool cb not named VVD has been 3rd or 4th choice at one point in the last two seasons, including Matip and Lovren... Is Lovren a no mark he went to the Euro finals with Croatia, and Cl finals with Liverpool?
And as for your last comment it's nonsense,sorry, Gomez gave Sterling a little push, big deal, and he isn't a youngster either, he is a couple years younger than Sterling, a CL winner and a regular for England over the last two years, he would have more caps if not for injuries. You'll probably find also that the best young players are the ones who don't cower and act like big softies around the more senior players, the ones who do rarely make it, just go do your research on the the type of characters Rooney and Ronaldo were at the ages of 18/19, two players who had no problems standing up for themselves against more senior players...
It is true to some extent though, Gomez gave it the big'un because they were comfortably winning, it's a petty thing to do when you know you are a teammate of this guy(who could be considered England's best player). It's a typical case of someone getting too big for their boots in a certain environment.
Interpreting this incident as being imbued within notions of hierarchy and not knowing your place is a new one on me. Fair play. 10/10 for creative thinking.
Should all have been kept in house. Football is an emotional game, it happens even at the level I play at. Listening to podcasts with Robbo and Fletcher recently and they both mention in training / in the canteen / dressing room or wherever, sometimes tempers would flare, it was natural (even sometimes to be expected due to the environment players live in) and was forgotten about afterwards, apologies accepted and move on.
Just can't understand why it has become such a huge incident. Mental.
Just can't understand why it has become such a huge incident. Mental.
It's a bit rich from someone mentioning stupidity to compare Gomez with Ronaldo and Rooney.
Sterling attacked him in the canteen. Sterling has said he's to blame. Gomez was commended by observers for being entirely appropriate. Southgate dropped Sterling.
But lads on the Caf have a new angle...it's really about Gomez being confident in the most significant match of the season. THIS WILL NOT DO!
Only because you are not the sharpest tool in the box.
You can compare it to any work place at any pay grade in any establishment. This is not Gomez's fault. Nobody from within the England camp has suggested as such. Sterling has carried the can. It's his fault.
Play the ball, not the man. Cheers
Sometimes it's pointless. Of course, hierarchy matters. It's a waste of time to explain it to a mature man. And to a kid as well. There is a reason why Sterling was angry precisely at Gomez. We are talking about what happened at Anfield and irked Sterling.
But nobody in teh know believe this to be the case from a blame point of view. Sterling is better...so what? Literally irrelevant.
The way Southgate has handled this is totally wrong. He should have kept it in-house and not gone public - leave Sterling out as a punishment and play the “it’s a squad game” card if anyone asked about it. All he has done is throw both players under the bus, and expose Gomez to media scrutiny that he doesn’t deserve.
Would Gomez have even come on yesterday if Southgate hadn’t turned it into a media circus? And now the suggestions in the press of him starting the next game, are we seriously handing out sympathy caps now? James Maddison clearly should have got Sterling to deck him in the last round of matches if that’s how you get a start!
Would Gomez have even come on yesterday if Southgate hadn’t turned it into a media circus? And now the suggestions in the press of him starting the next game, are we seriously handing out sympathy caps now? James Maddison clearly should have got Sterling to deck him in the last round of matches if that’s how you get a start!
Sterling wouldn't do that to an established English star, even if he was a Liverpool player. One must be (deliberately) obtuse to think the incident had nothing to with hierarchy. The very words Sterling used during the altercation are sufficiently telling.
Are you suggesting that Gomez should have backed down from the challenge against Sterling at Anfield because Sterling is a more important player for England? If so, I don't think you know how professional football works. Gomez is a Liverpool player. He is supposed to do what it takes to help Liverpool win the match. And Sterling the same for City. They were not teammates in that match. If Sterling couldn't let it go afterwards then he has the problem. And that's the view of most sane people including Southgate and Sterling himself.
Sterling and Gomez are 2-3 years apart in age Einstein.
Being established and being 2-3 years senior are two different things , Mr Stupid.
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Obviously, I wasn't talking about challenging him in a merely footballing plan, but on a personal level which irked Sterling.
Yes. Yes he is.
How was he left devastated after the match? This was probably his only chance to get some minutes on the pitch, he should be happy.
Mental gymnastics going on here to somehow paint Sterling as a victim and Gomez the perpetrator in all this are honestly worrying.
I’m guessing cause of the boos? He’s a young lad with a family and by all accounts he keeps his head down and works hard that comes across in interviews and pieces he does for the club too on social media.
These lads are human beings, having a teammate attack you regardless of his status and then you take the vitriol for it can’t be easy. It probably doesn’t help how visible the scar is, if I’m Gomez I’m wondering what the feck I’ve done wrong. I’m sure as shit not going to be feeling bad because he’s gotten himself wound up in the biggest game of the season. You do what’s best for your club first and foremost. Raheem reacted badly and apologised after the fact and every media account has portrayed it that way. This is in no way the fault of Joe Gomez.
It doesn't really matter.. If he can't keep his head cool, it's his problem.
Honestly think the bigger problem is the leak coming from the dressing room. To those who are saying this should have been kept in house, that wasn’t possible because someone who is part of the set up leaked the story.
True. And Gomez being brave enough to irk a senior England team-mate should have expected some sort of reaction. It's his problem if he didn't.
Sterling should have channelled his anger in a more productive way, like stopping Liverpool from winning a league title after 30 years. Which he still could do, hopefully.
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