UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

How do you intend to vote in the 2019 General Election if eligible?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 30 4.3%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 73 10.6%
  • DUP

    Votes: 5 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Labour

    Votes: 355 51.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 58 8.4%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 1.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 19 2.8%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 0.9%
  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Other (BNP, Change UK, UUP and anyone else that I have forgotten)

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Not voting

    Votes: 57 8.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 41 5.9%

  • Total voters
    690
  • Poll closed .
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Genuine question. Like him or not, Corbyn has always been spoken about as a man with morals above all else.

But he lost the previous two elections, had he stepped down last time we might have had a different result today.

So is he not another career politician? In which case, man or morals is all bollocks? Surely for the greater good he should have stepped down?
Jeremy Corbyn was a good back bench MP - I assume he has never held a cabinet or shadow cabinet post before heading up the Labour Party? A leader he is not, and never has been.

Labour are too influenced by the unions and momentum. Union influence was also the reason the wrong Miliband led the party.
 

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feckin Pob, his obsession with Corbyn is bizarre. Tories have just won and he’s wittering on about Corbyn. Shows how vapid are.
 

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Momentum killed the party. You don't go full Corbyn, no matter how appetising it sounds. You need to compromise with what others want. Ironically, you need to be socialist.
I can't see it happening. This is going to get worse imo.


I agree. However it's not as if the right are having to compromise.
Why would they?
 

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Its looking like a massive landslide to the Tories. Restored my faith in this country.
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Time for some people to wake up and look around them?

Shock of some of you that the Tories won is surprising to me, labour honestly never had a chance imo.

Such a huge difference in the poll here and yet a completely different outcome in the election.

Shades of what I’ve always maintained, that the general opinion of the caf is FAR removed from that of the general match going fan.
Don't think people are particularly shocked at conservative winning, it's more the margin.
 

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I will say bringing back the New Labour branding would be the smartest thing the party could do after the new direction is set. Ideally keep the level of socialism and change that's energised people but do it deceptively and fool people like the Tories do.
 

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Most are yes, quite obviously.
The fact that the Cafe is more left-leaning than society as a whole was quite clearly known by people on here, although a lot of people on here voted for Labour the consensus was that most (myself included) expected the Tories to win. I think the scale of the majority being projected is a surprise, including the pollsters, but you're wrong to think that most on here weren't aware that the Tories were obviously going to be the biggest party and likely with a majority.
 

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@Sultan - I assume you will take action on this one.
This is a pretty pathetic post.
Your initial joke was painfully unfunny. The kind of shit that’s posted by someone who thinks minion memes are the epoch of comedy. However it wasn’t a malicious joke or even a targeted one, so I disagree with @Shamwow ‘s response. The joke was shit but there’s nothing wrong with it morally.

But to then brag about your properties(no one gives a shit mate) and tag in a mod because someone called you a name, damn. That’s some real lame shit.

Feel free to tag in the entire mod team in your response, and if you feel the need just dial 999.


I know six people from extended family and friends who have suffered illness and used NHS in past 9 months; being treated for stomach cancer breast cancer, stroke, serious car accident and a heart attack.

I've made a point to ask all of them about their NHS experience and if they were happy with the service they got. All were full of praise, delighted with NHS and think they are alive because of the care they got.

I know it qualitative and the stats paint a different picture, but our health service is already one of the very best in the world. And that context is delibereky lost when politicians engage in hyperbole to win votes.
‘I know the statistics and evidence and facts say differently but my cousin had a whale of a time so I don’t see what the problem is’

Speak to the people who work for the NHS mate.
 

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I think so. We'll finally get to find out if Brexit is a good idea or not. They have no excuses now and will own the outcome. At least Britain is driving straight off the cliff rather than stumbling along the edge.
Ah, the dying while standing approach. I respect it.
 

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Can a mod return my post for a little while, i don't care if he was trolling, and i don't care if i get banned for a while, id rather a few more people actually take in the message on this bitter bitter evening.
 

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Most are yes, quite obviously.
You’re not paying attention. Everyone in the thread is aware of the echo chamber. You’re mixing up delusion and disappointment.
 

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Guy at work has spent the last year posting daily messages on Facebook about the SNPs and anti Tory memes. In the last week he kept reposting "protect the NHS" and "stop the Tories" memes.

He came in today and when I asked him who he voted for in the morning he said he couldn't do it because he couldn't find his polling card. When I told him that he didn't need it he just shrugged and said that he wasn't going near the station again today. We work ten minutes drive from it so he could've done it on his lunch break but instead he just sat on his arse watching YouTube. He's currently on Facebook right now talking about how shit the election result was.

Modern politics in a nutshell, basically. Just make sure that you appear active.
Redneck style
 

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Can i mod return my post for a little while, i don't care if he was trolling, and i don't care if i get banned for a while, id rather a few more people actually take in the message on this bitter bitter evening.
A bit odd to moderate such threads to the same standard in my view. Clearly this is an emotive night and it's quite cathartic to let loose especially on trolls.
 

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Baddiel has just hit the nail on the head.

The Corbynistas need to stop telling everyone with a different opinion to "feck off and join the Tories".
A point I'm seeing being made by quite a lot of people on twitter at least.
 

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Can a mod return my post for a little while, i don't care if he was trolling, and i don't care if i get banned for a while, id rather a few more people actually take in the message on this bitter bitter evening.
I saw it and agreed with it too, like Olly said.
 

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The b tech Philomena Cunk on Channel four really needs to give it up. Nish Kumar is a massive WUM as well.
 

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All his greatest hits in one double disk package!

<Oh ye cannae shove yet granny aff a bus
Not unless ye really need tae nick her stuff>

<the minute you walked in the joint
Pah-rumf
I could see you were a man for neglecting
An easy target>

<I'm a Tory *beep* and I'm okay
I wum all night and I wum all day>


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I'll be honest, I'm buying that.
 

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I didn’t see it but I reckon I probably would have agreed with it.
 

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Nope, they are going to dig deeper and blame everyone but themselves.

It's pretty amazing they can't see the ridiculousness in attacking everyone and everything even slightly different to their views whilst expecting support.

The party was already ripped apart before this humiliation, and there's no desire to bring it back together it seems.
If the exit poll is correct. The reality is, Brexit has potentially taken away Labour heartlands. The Labour policy of a second referendum, which actually was rather centrist (and is the most rational solution), failed.

If Labour had focused on exiting the EU then they wouldn't have lost the brexit 'traditional' labour voters in the North.
 

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I think it got deleted from the thread you forwarded it into as well unfortunately, i think its important frankly.
I deleted it from there as I assumed a mod would have done so at some point anyway.

It's a shame posts like the awful constant troll-like ones are allowed and nothing done about them, and yet yours (which was maybe a bit extreme in places maybe, although not in my opinion) are deleted within a couple of minutes.
 

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Baddiel has just hit the nail on the head.

The Corbynistas need to stop telling everyone with a different opinion to "feck off and join the Tories".
Works both ways because the centrists are saying get out of the party too. There should be room for both.
 

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Baddiel has just hit the nail on the head.

The Corbynistas need to stop telling everyone with a different opinion to "feck off and join the Tories".
Why don't you just feck off and join the Tories? This is OUR party that I've only been an active member of for a couple of years and I know feck all about the real world and you better just back off!
 

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Swindon is going to be a Tory landslide
 
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