'Pep' Guardiola sack watch

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This would be brilliant if it wasnt for the fact city being a shambles is handing the league to the other mob. :mad:. I guess it's time to make peace with them winning the league.
 

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Strange to see so many people calling him a fraud. They are easily going to finish the league in second place after winning twice in a row with record points.
 

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Strange to see so many people calling him a fraud. They are easily going to finish the league in second place after winning twice in a row with record points.
People are generally stupid in case you haven’t noticed yet.
 

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Strange to see so many people calling him a fraud. They are easily going to finish the league in second place after winning twice in a row with record points.
Easily? Theyve lost as many games as Arsenal have this year.
City will take their eyes off the league now imo so that goes against how easily they can get second
 

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Easily? Theyve lost as many games as Arsenal have this year.
City will take their eyes off the league now imo so that goes against how easily they can get second
Who is going to challenge for second? Leicester? I would say there is a higher chance Vardy's amazing goalscoring form normalises than City taking their eye off the ball.
 

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Oh dear Pep. Will he walk at the end of this season? No way City sacks him.
 

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I'd be very surprised if he's here next season, city look a shadow of 2 years ago where they were doing what Liverpool are now.

Burnt out with peps methods it seems.
 

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Suprised how many United fans want to see him out. You guys do realize that if Guardiola leaves and Klopp stay, Liverpool will lose their only real contender in this league? Do you really think City's chances would be better with any other coach in charge?

Would expect another two to four seasons of Klopp at Liverpool without Pep around would be the stuff of nightmares for United fans.
 

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ity will never find a better manager and will never sack Pep. Think he will leave at the end of the season. Same with Liverpool and Klopp when it inevitably starts to go downhill.
 

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Who is going to challenge for second? Leicester? I would say there is a higher chance Vardy's amazing goalscoring form normalises than City taking their eye off the ball.
Theyre ahead of them now?
Also just 6 off Chelsea who lost 5 in 6!
Any sort of run from teams below them in the new year and they could be in trouble. Its not as if Peps tactics will seem fresher to the players as the league rolls on plus theyll turn to CL etc which will hinder them
 

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Suprised how many United fans want to see him out. You guys do realize that if Guardiola leaves and Klopp stay, Liverpool will lose their only real contender in this league? Do you really think City's chances would be better with any other coach in charge?

Would expect another two to four seasons of Klopp at Liverpool without Pep around would be the stuff of nightmares for United fans.
I don't think Klopp can hold this pace up forever either. His Dortmund team blew out in the end as well.
 

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Suprised how many United fans want to see him out. You guys do realize that if Guardiola leaves and Klopp stay, Liverpool will lose their only real contender in this league? Do you really think City's chances would be better with any other coach in charge?

Would expect another two to four seasons of Klopp at Liverpool without Pep around would be the stuff of nightmares for United fans.
Expect they will run out of steam eventually as well.
 

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Theyre ahead of them now?
Also just 6 off Chelsea who lost 5 in 6!
Any sort of run from teams nelow them inbthe new year and they could be in trouble. Its not as if Peps tactics will seem fresher to the players as the league rolls on
We will see. I still see them as clear favourites for 2nd mostly due to lack of any challengers. Laporte being back in January could be big.
 

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We will see. I still see them as clear favourites for 2nd mostly due to lack of any challengers. Laporte being back in January could be big.
Just looked at fixtures either side of Madrid match. They have Leicester, Us, Arsenal, Burnely and Chelsea..
Theres taking the eye off of the league and theres that. Get past that and they have second but there isnt a chance in hell based on how theyre struggling against pace
 

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Are terrible signings for the guts of 260m.

And not exactly legends walker and laporte another 100 plus.

700 million spent and you could argue the majority has been on bad signings. It deserves serious scrutiny but somehow he acts like a pauper.
 

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City will win the same number of trophies this season as the number of hair follicles on Pep's head.

Expect him to be firing his CV off to the PSG HR department tonight. He'll run away at the end of the season like he usually does to a league with no competition where he can outspend the rest.
 

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I don't think Klopp can hold this pace up forever either. His Dortmund team blew out in the end as well.

Actually they didn't. It was the carziest result crisis I've seen. There's a fun anecdote about that when Klopp signed for Liverpool, worth googling. In the xG table, they were probably place 2 or 3, still. Outperformed their opposition on pretty much any occasion bar very few.

Anyway, even if they can't hold this pace up: This would mean they'd score 80-90 points per season and I don't see any not-Guardiola managed team matching that. That's still a crazy amount of points in such a competitive league from top to bottom.
 

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Are terrible signings for the guts of 260m.

And not exactly legends walker and laporte another 100 plus.

700 million spent and you could argue the majority has been on bad signings. It deserves serious scrutiny but somehow he acts like a pauper.
He signed Bravo and then the next season signed Ederson to replace him. He was on the verge of flogging Aguero off until he blasted his way back into the starting XI. Chequebook manager.
 

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He signed Bravo and then the next season signed Ederson to replace him. He was on the verge of flogging Aguero off until he blasted his way back into the starting XI. Chequebook manager.
Seemed keen to let sane go also, and mahrez was a huge fee. Rodrigo early days but not looking especially convincing.

He reaped the rewards of the window before he came where de bruyne and sterling joined silva aguero and kompany all in better shape
 

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He signed Bravo and then the next season signed Ederson to replace him. He was on the verge of flogging Aguero off until he blasted his way back into the starting XI. Chequebook manager.
If he had his way he would have pushed away Sancho, Sane and possibly Foden as well.
Honestly, how hes treated those 3 is as bad as Jose with Salah etc
 

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Everything Pep is saying publicly is he wants to stay beyond next season, not sure he's going anywhere tbh
 

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No one can keep it up for longer than a couple of years which is why Alex Ferguson is so revered. We lost the league by 1 point after winning it three years in a row. If Klopp does that, well then...

You just knew city would lose tonight after Adama's goal. Interesting that for a team so revered by pundits they have surrendered two goal leads fairly often.

86-90 used to be the standard till Guardiola's city. I expect Liverpool will get about 105-107 this year. Assuming Guardiola leaves at the end of the season I don't see anyone challenging Liverpool in the next two years.
Nobody saw anybody challenging City after their 100 point haul as well..
 

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No one can keep it up for longer than a couple of years which is why Alex Ferguson is so revered. We lost the league by 1 point after winning it three years in a row. If Klopp does that, well then...

You just knew city would lose tonight after Adama's goal. Interesting that for a team so revered by pundits they have surrendered two goal leads fairly often.

86-90 used to be the standard till Guardiola's city. I expect Liverpool will get about 105-107 this year. Assuming Guardiola leaves at the end of the season I don't see anyone challenging Liverpool in the next two years.
Its impossible to say. Two years ago people were saying guardiola could dominate for a decade. Now they're on course for 76 points.
 

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No one can keep it up for longer than a couple of years which is why Alex Ferguson is so revered. We lost the league by 1 point after winning it three years in a row. If Klopp does that, well then...

You just knew city would lose tonight after Adama's goal. Interesting that for a team so revered by pundits they have surrendered two goal leads fairly often.

86-90 used to be the standard till Guardiola's city. I expect Liverpool will get about 105-107 this year. Assuming Guardiola leaves at the end of the season I don't see anyone challenging Liverpool in the next two years.
Same hear. I somehow missed that Klopp has renewed until a few minutes ago. That settles it, IMO.

I'd say the greatest competitor will still be City, the same way Ancelotti and Tito profited from Guardiola's work for a few seasons but they won't be able to achieve similar heights. So yeah, I guess it's a good time to be a Liverpool fan.
 

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Anyone gonna bet on him becoming Juve or PSG manager next season ?
Juve highly probable I think.

Doubt he'll ever manage PSG, not enough of a challenge in the league.
 

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Thanks for shutting Noel Gallagher up, Pep.
 

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Everything Pep is saying publicly is he wants to stay beyond next season, not sure he's going anywhere tbh
People are comparing this to 2012 Barcelona but circumstances are different. It was reported back then that Guardiola no longer wanted to work with Alves, Pique, Fabregas and Villa. As far as I can remember, Barcelona's finances were not great back then and did not have the spending power to replace them with better alternatives. Whether they had better alternatives is another question but it is different with City. City can offload any player that Pep wants to and replace them with better alternatives. That's why he is likely to stay.

Perks of managing a state owned club.
 

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He's not the guy the refresh City, he doesn't have a track record of doing so (though he obviously has plenty of time to change that and prove people wrong) but I also can't see how they can improve on him. Whoever they get will be a downgrade and whoever that is will probably need to spend another half a billion replacing Silva, Aguero, Fernandinho, Kompany and some competent full backs as a minimum.
 

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Surely he should give Foden a proper run of games now? The league is gone but they'll still finish comfortably top 4.

I think if Foden starts playing in the league that will show Pep is in for next season without any questions.

They just gambled on not replacing Kompany and it's backfired with the Laporte injury. Given Fernandinho is coming to the end they will certainly sign a CB in next six months.
 

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He's not the guy the refresh City, he doesn't have a track record of doing so (though he obviously has plenty of time to change that and prove people wrong) but I also can't see how they can improve on him. Whoever they get will be a downgrade and whoever that is will probably need to spend another half a billion replacing Silva, Aguero, Fernandinho, Kompany and some competent full backs as a minimum.
Think Pochettino will be a very strong contender given how he refreshed Spurs when he first took over. Yes he hasn't won anything but you'd really have to mess up not to win anything at Man. City over a 2-3 year period nowadays.
 

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Juve highly probable I think.

Doubt he'll ever manage PSG, not enough of a challenge in the league.
Yeah I think so. No way I can see Sarri staying for next season imo and they will try to lure Pep. I think Pep is done with England. This is very reminiscent of his last season at Barca.
 

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I don’t think City/Pep need to do much to be able to win the league next season. They have Ederson, Laporte, De Bruyne, Sterling, B Silva, and G Jesus (assuming Aguero eventually bops back to Argentina), that’s the basis of a top class team. Replace Kompany and Fernandinho, perhaps get a new full-back, and they are formidable again.
 

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I don't think Klopp can hold this pace up forever either. His Dortmund team blew out in the end as well.
No offense, but that's something people say who only look at the points and nothing else. Dortmund performed decently and was drastically underperforming in all likelihood-/luck-statistics. In a normal season they would still have had a decent season then.

That being said - Klopps style indeed does fall off after some time, but he is clearly smart enough to figure that out and replace players in order to create new impulses with the teams psychological dynamics. Something he said he would have had to do at Dortmund as well to either him being replaced or a good chunk of the team to get these new impulses.
 

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Klopp will have enough money to replenish this Liverpool side once it starts to decline, unlike at BVB. I think they will also win the league next season unfortunately, then they will start needing some changes in attack and midfield.