About TFM. Didn't Lvg, who is someone who has great history in producing players, said that TFM's future is on dmc position and that he will make true dmc of him? I am maybe wrong but i could swear that he said it
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Brilliant post. Could not agree with the sentiment more.
I think it's telling that virtually all of the Ole out sentiment exists online. The last thing I want to start is a topredz war, but matchgoing fans who give up their time and money to support the club seem to be much more accepting of the change in atmosphere and feel a closer connection to the club than under Mourinho's tenure, regardless of disappointing results.
Primary school comeback, saw it from a mile away but wanted to check how much more you could embarrass yourself. Go on, keep your circus act going.
Dude, nobody is hating OGS the player but judging OGS by his managerial career with us.
Kinda ironic that Ole got angry because he was criticised for not getting angry
Not great though. He should get angry/upset over the results and performances rather than opinions about him.
If you think the class of 92 can become what they've become being pampered like lingard you're probably off your rockers.
The extra amount of hardwork they put in their training would put lingard to shame.
Pull that kind of stunt during saf time if you dare.
The extra amount of hardwork they put in their training would put lingard to shame.
Pull that kind of stunt during saf time if you dare.
I can't stand RVP and I love Ole... as somebody who scored many vital goals for us.
But Ole is clearly under pressure and I'm beginning to get very annoyed by his interviews.
Either means our number is all we have in common or he isn't getting anything else out of me (like a response)
Edit: seen the interview. It's the latter. He gesticulates as much as he leaves the press room after saying it
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Upset by RvP's comment? He's lucky his media pals aren't so critical of him. The previous managers before him received harsh criticisms.Totally agree, the manager should never ever slate someone in public. Everyone knows we are short in numbers and now players who has been critized by fans and media are going to have to play out of position.
No need to hate Ole at all, he is not the one to blame even if I think that he is not the right guy for the job. Hate Ed Woodward he is the mastermind behind this freak show.
Im starting to suspect that good Ol Eddy actually likes the position we are in as he is a follower of the ”it does not matter what they talk about me, as long as they talk about me” -philosophy.
I think Ole has been told recently that he will not be backed in the transfer market and will me sacked after the season and now he is hurt.
Solskjaer's previous playing credentials have absolutely no weight in a managerial argument, I can understand fans disliking him, hate might be too strong an emotion to feel however.
Im losing sleep with Ole in charge, I'd lose no sleep if he was sacked. If Brendan leaves Leicester they will miss something, if Klopp leaves Pool they will miss something, the same for Pep and even Lampard I feel with Chelsea. If Solskjaer leaves United we won't miss anything because he's not added any dynamics to this team. If we had a clear philosophy and lost various games it's permissible due to seeing that we are building from a platform. Right now the only thing Ole is building is a big fall.
Im losing sleep with Ole in charge, I'd lose no sleep if he was sacked. If Brendan leaves Leicester they will miss something, if Klopp leaves Pool they will miss something, the same for Pep and even Lampard I feel with Chelsea. If Solskjaer leaves United we won't miss anything because he's not added any dynamics to this team. If we had a clear philosophy and lost various games it's permissible due to seeing that we are building from a platform. Right now the only thing Ole is building is a big fall.
Absolutely no need for Ole to blow up on that statement by RVP like that. Unnecessary and losing his cool clearly. Rvp said nothing wrong. He was just saying, be angry once in a while. Its allowed. Like we just out in a pathetic performance, you're allowed to look upset but stay neutral in the comments.
Very strange to get angry at a guy us United fans all love too.
Very strange to get angry at a guy us United fans all love too.
Just smile and wave.
This is so true. Why did he get agitated at RVP's comment? All the while he has been ignoring all of the BS.
ANd yeah, RVP is not his friend but was a player of Manchester United. Him being critical of the manager is justifiable.
I kinda like this, at least it shows that he still has fire somewhere in his belly. Van Persie was right, though.
What would that prove, besides satisfying a small number of bitter fans? No need for RVP to say that, as it also completely takes focus away from the players performance. No need to create a tense, toxic atmosphere like the dark days of Jose. And he wasn't even laughing in the presser, someone just took a screencap. I could probably take a picture from that 30 second clip and make it look like he's getting hysterical over RVP's comments.
I am Ole out but I am supporting him and the team till the end of season. Top 4 is at stake. Lets stand behind the team now and think about sacking this and that later in the summer.
You still think top four is on? Like we will magically find some consistency and go on a winning run? Mark my words, only thing that can propel us is another new manager bounce like last season.
Guy shows he's hit his tolerance levels and people still criticise. Damned if you do ect
There you go Ole. Finally showing a bit of fight
Even Ole knows Agents are hired by Players I.e. Pogba hired Raiola I.e. Raiola is making these disparaging comments either because his boss endorses it or because Pogba doesn't have the leadership to keep his employee under control.
"Not in medieval times" but trying to emulate Sir Alex and play kick n rush football. Which isn't bad but that smells like hypocrisy to me, He didn't have to be that petty really. Robin was right. Now get angry at your players, Ole. RvP got nothing to do with their performances.
Ole's aggression could be better directed at some of his so called footballers currently disgracing the United shirt. And also maybe at Raiola who is foul-mouthing the club and SAF. Instead of getting riled at RVP, he could have torn Raiola a new one in the presser. And I don't think Ole realizes that more criticism is coming his way from ex players and press, albeit more justified than the kind of flimsy "he shouldn't be laughing" accusations. His immunity period is mostly over.
Also Ed and owners most probably won't back him in this window because the usual withdrawal symptoms have set in. The lad is in a tough corner. If he has real fight inside he will emerge victorious, but highly unlikely, because a montage of all Ole's pressers will tell you that it's mostly highly inconsistent talk Ole has indulged in during his tenure so far.
Also Ed and owners most probably won't back him in this window because the usual withdrawal symptoms have set in. The lad is in a tough corner. If he has real fight inside he will emerge victorious, but highly unlikely, because a montage of all Ole's pressers will tell you that it's mostly highly inconsistent talk Ole has indulged in during his tenure so far.
He just said he won't change. What makes you think he'll listen to you
I can't believe I just read that one of our fans 'hates' Ole. I'm firmly in the Ole out camp but that's tilted me no end. Don't even know where else to go with that.
Edit: On the presser, don't like to see him having a spat with RVP, feels like two of your mates falling out, however showing another side of himself might not be the worst thing.
Edit: On the presser, don't like to see him having a spat with RVP, feels like two of your mates falling out, however showing another side of himself might not be the worst thing.
Dont get all the fuzz about his comments re RvP. Its just a bit of banter
I just find comments like this from Ole quite bizarre;
Well, we had four fit players for two positions at the start of the season, and we felt that we didn't find the right one [midfielder] for the right value. But we have been looking to strengthen the squad in several positions.”
Why would it bother him about the value?
Long gone are the days when Utd, Liverpool and the like could look at the rest of the clubs in England and hand pick the best performing players and it was automatic that the clubs would sell them. The other clubs now are rich in their own right that they can decide to keep their asset as then they have a better chance to stay in the top flight or they may decide we will sell him but only if a premium price is paid.
There is nothing wrong in that and if Ole thinks that Utd will not have to pay that premium price then he is totally out of touch.
Surely paying 80mil for Maguire would have opened his eyes to that.
Well, we had four fit players for two positions at the start of the season, and we felt that we didn't find the right one [midfielder] for the right value. But we have been looking to strengthen the squad in several positions.”
Why would it bother him about the value?
Long gone are the days when Utd, Liverpool and the like could look at the rest of the clubs in England and hand pick the best performing players and it was automatic that the clubs would sell them. The other clubs now are rich in their own right that they can decide to keep their asset as then they have a better chance to stay in the top flight or they may decide we will sell him but only if a premium price is paid.
There is nothing wrong in that and if Ole thinks that Utd will not have to pay that premium price then he is totally out of touch.
Surely paying 80mil for Maguire would have opened his eyes to that.
I'd assume Ed is the one that cares about value. Ole can ask for players but the club need to be willing to pay for them.
If anyone thinks Ole is happy with the situation they're crazy.
tbh far too much stock is out into what managers say in their press conferences. Ole can be as calm as a cucumber, happy as a clam, or go on a never ending rant against the whole world; but it’s quality of play and results on the pitch that matter.
If managers got points for press conferences, Louis Van Gaal would be the greatest manager in history.
Guy was analyzing the game in Sky Sports studio. Why shouldn't he say his opinion on the manager, when it's said in a complete respectful manner ? Is that what Ole wants to hear then, that our ex players coming on whenever they analyze a game for us and saying he's doing great, his management style is great, players are crap and we need 10 more transfer windows to get better results?
He's fuming imo. Love RVP but what he said isn't any helpful. Like Ole would need more pressure atm ...
that's the thing. He can't even sell his project to a fellow Norwegian, whom he previously coached and whose been a team mate to his father. No wonder why we seem only interested in British players who want to join the club irrespective of whom the manager or their project is.
Maybe he shouldn't have said it but he's right though. Only an idiot smiles after a defeat especially at a club like Manchester United were we're supposed to be fuming at every defeat
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Look I don't blame Ole for his frustration. It's not his fault that Woodward finds it very hard to bring more then 3 players per summer, which in turn, forces us to keep or even give contract extensions to players who don't deserve it. In such cases the manager is forced to tone down and be careful what he would say and do because he can't just get rid of the players and expect them that they would be replaced.
Having said RVP was right, Ole is too nice and managers shouldn't smile after a defeat. That's something even Rio agrees with him as well. I wonder if Ole knows about Rio as well considering both players (RVP and Rio) were WC and first teamers, not some bench warmers.
It was good he said that. Ole is getting a free pass way too often.
Not helpful to whom? A failing manager who looks out of his depth or Manchester United?!
He has the right to voice his opinion, even if it's a shit opinion. Guy has never managed before, and I thought Ole was being nice by not mentioning that. I remember when Mourinho went after Neville and Scholes' coaching records when they criticised him, and of course the Jose fans sided with him, but at least those two have been in the hotseat. Ole had a point when he said he doesn't know him, he doesn't know how he's like in the dressing room, and Ole clearly wasn't happy on the touchline. Guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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