Which posters have gotten it right all along?

[Florida Man]

In terms of how our managerial hires have turned out?

Definitely not me. I thought Moyes, LVG, Mourinho, and Ole would all turn out to be fantastic and establish a long career with us. Apparently I don’t know shit.

So... go on you Nostradami. Gloat here and tell everyone you told them so. Bonus points if you quote your predictions.

 

[fps]

Season needs to have finished before judging Ole.

 

[Ish]

Depends on what you mean OP. For instance I was quite excited and happy at each initial appointment (probably I was just glad their predecessors were fired!), & supported them for a while - until it became apparent to me that they weren't going to be successful.

Moyes I definitely got wrong but realised it a couple/few months into his tenure. I never wanted LvG or Jose, personally. I also never thought OGS had the credentials to take over here and be successful, but boy oh boy, he had my backing and support, until a few months ago. Tbf, Ole still hasn't proven anyone right or wrong. He could (hopefully!) still turn it around.

 

[pocco]

There'll be a poster that complains about everything anyway and therefore said they'll all fail.

 

[GaryLifo]

Was gutted we appointed Moyes. I wanted Jose

Thought LVG would win us at least one league title.

Thought Jose was the one to win plenty.

Was happy with Ole to be caretaker. Thought it was odd to give him the job before thre end of the season. I'm currently of the view that Ole can still be the man, but he has to be given at least two players in January.

 

[meamth]

It's easier to predict failure at this point of this club.

 

[Catt]

With Moyes I was "SAF knows best" and LvG was definitely going to succeed. Was a bit more sceptical with Mourinho and I was very much against hiring Solskjær. I don't believe he was ever good enough.

 

[Bratt]

The only one I was right about was Moyes, I felt sure things were going south when he was appointed, I had absolutely no trust in him being good enough - right.
I was somewhat optimistic when van Gaal was hired - wrong.
I was very optimistic when Mourinho was hired - wrong.
I didn’t have much faith in Ole when he came in as a caretaker, but his amazing start made me feel this could really work - time will tell if right or wrong.

 

[lsd]

Never wanted Moyes and knew he would be a disaster .

Van Gaal was worried he was too old but optimistic we would improve and play good football so yeah wrong there.

Jose i hated as a person knew the football would stink but did think he would be more successful especially in big games which he wasn't

Ole i believed in and still do

 

[TsuWave]

I knew Moyes and Ole were bums (managerial wise). I thought both LvG and Mourinho would have done better than what they did.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Depends on what you mean OP. For instance I was quite excited and happy at each initial appointment (probably I was just glad their predecessors were fired!), & supported them for a while - until it became apparent to me that they weren't going to be successful.

Moyes I definitely got wrong but realised it a couple/few months into his tenure. I never wanted LvG or Jose, personally. I also never thought OGS had the credentials to take over here and be successful, but boy oh boy, he had my backing and support, until a few months ago. Tbf, Ole still hasn't proven anyone right or wrong. He could (hopefully!) still turn it around.

Yep. I supported all 4 managers.

However Moyes was the wrong choice from before the get go. LVG I was hopeful about. Mourinho I was never convinced by as being the right fit. And Ole again, I was supportive as he won a lot of favour for the run we went on. I wasn't convinced that he was the right man nor did I believe it was wrong decision at the time. Should have seen this one coming tbf as he's clearly not good enough.

2/4 in terms of "called it!" I guess. Although even with Mourinho I didn't express that right from the start as you know, once a decision been made you tend to hope for the best. Not sure what my real prediction was for Ole either.

 

[Godfather]

I knew Moyes and Ole were bums (managerial wise). I thought both LvG and Mourinho would have done better than what they did.

Same

 

[Himannv]

Backed all 4 but had more doubts about Moyes than the others.

 

[Massive Spanner]

I thought Moyes would be a failure, LvG would be somewhat of a success, and Jose would win us a title before he capitulated. I guess 1/3 isn't bad.

Still think I'm right about Ole being too crap to take us anywhere so maybe 2/4.

 

[Ali Dia]

Moyes yeah I supported Fergie’s decision. It was clear very quickly he wasn’t the man for the job at all.

I thought LVG was the manager who’d steady us and get us back challenging. Horrible football, interviews and signings

Jose I was certain would win us prizes at all costs. He brought pogba and Zlatan onboard and I thought that would be the start of the resurgence. Alas the circus continued.

Oles run as caretaker was the most fun I’ve had as a supporter post Fergie. He’s been good in big games but he needs to find a way to break down teams that sit deep quick or he’ll pay with his job. He also clearly needs quality signings. Will the club get these next few players right? I hope he can still turn it around but I have grave doubts at this stage.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Season needs to have finished before judging Ole.

Agree. It all happened far too quickly. We kept winning, there was a 'wave' of good feeling and then a clamour for his permanant appointment to the point where it genuinely felt like 'you have to give it to Ole'. And that feeling, I don't know where it stemmed from, but was completely illogical. There was no clause whereby we were automatically indebted to give it to Ole upon winning 14 games. We should have been more careful and taken our time over it. He wasn't going to run away and it definitely was a huge risk, as has been proven since then.

Edit : Wait you were talking about this season So yeah, nope. There's no rule that you can't judge a manager before 1.5 years in charge. Of course he may turn it around (don't see it) but as things stand he's been poor.

 

[Cnaiür urs Skiötha]

I was underwhelmed by Moyes. I think Klopp was available at that point in time and I really hoped we will try to get him.
With LVG and Mourinho I was happy when they had been announced.
Never understood the Ole thing and why we got him - not even as caretaker.

 

[Skills]

I was up for Van Gaal and Mourinho, but I knew they'd need to get sacked sooner or later. I thought they'd be a good one night stand, but we tried to marry them.

Moyes and Ole were gutwrenching though.

 

[Judas]

Moyes knew it would be failure, it was obvious.

LVG I thought would be an improvement, and that point I'd have taken anyone over Moyes so I'm not sure how I thought it would go long term really.

Expected to win things under Jose but him to crash and burn like always, thought we'd at least challenge for the title which we didn't.

Ole, apart from the excitement after beating PSG, I believe I've always felt he wasn't the right man long term due to the obvious reasons. So far its sadly looking like that was correct, but we'll see how the rest of the season pans out, the board not backing him financially isn't doing him any favours.

 

[westmeath]

I was happy with Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho when they were announced. I knew Ole would fail but at this stage I don’t know who could possibly succeed.

 

[Ish]

Yep. I supported all 4 managers.

However Moyes was the wrong choice from before the get go. LVG I was hopeful about. Mourinho I was never convinced by as being the right fit. And Ole again, I was supportive as he won a lot of favour for the run we went on. I wasn't convinced that he was the right man nor did I believe it was wrong decision at the time. Should have seen this one coming tbf as he's clearly not good enough.

2/4 in terms of "called it!" I guess. Although even with Mourinho I didn't express that right from the start as you know, once a decision been made you tend to hope for the best. Not sure what my real prediction was for Ole either.

Yeah, I never thought he was a good fit for the club, but I thought he'd at least come in, stabilise the squad and win a couple of trophies to instill a winning mentality into the players. And he did well, initially. Signing Bailly, Lindelof, Pogba, Lukaku, Ibra, Matic - I thought he'd sorted out the spine of the team for years to come.

He won a couple of trophies, but at the end, basically none of his signings have worked out for us, for various reasons.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Van Gaal had a great world cup, came in and oversaw our biggest ever summer for transfers then battered LA Galaxy 6 or 7-0. If anyone was anything other than giddy with excitement then they are not human!

I also got a bit overly optimistic in Jose's second season with all those 4-0 wins at the start. I knew there would be a dip with Ole as I feel more conditioned to expect that now.

 

[Bondi77]

Was optimistic about Moyes as I trusted the judgment of Fergie and I was always impressed by the never say die attitude of his Everton side and yet our lot would not play for him.
Really optimistic about LVG given his record and the team he had at Ajax but he bored me to tears.
Did not want Jose, I cannot stand the bloke.
Ole was a strange choice in my eyes but I think he will do well if we are lucky with transfers

P.s. Watching Dortmund from quite a few years ago I was gutted when Klopp went to Liverpool because he was always my choice.

 

[pascell]

Thought Moyes was a risk but trusted the judgement of SAF (signing Fellaini I thought was a bit wtf). Thought LvG would do well, especially after some of the players we signed (finally addressed the lack of CMs) shame they all bar maybe Martial turned out to be poor signings. Jose I was adamant would win the league just because he'd do everything and anything as his reputation was tarnished a little at Chelsea. Ole for me isnt the right manager, I actually think we're going to continue on this inconsistent run of form path until we replace him with a capable manager.

 

[Sky1981]

Was right on moyes.

Was wrong on van gaal

Was right on jose. 2nd and a Europa cup on the year where city got 100 pts wasnt bad.

Was right and wrong on ole. I think he should be given the job on the end of ths 15 wins run. But now he should be sacked.

 

[DWelbz19]

I (and the world) knew Moyes wasn’t up to much.

I really thought loony Louis was going to save us.

I knew Jose Mourinho was done. Never wanted him, ever.

Got caught on Ole’s wheel for a bit.

 

[Sunny Jim]

I was sure Moyes would fail, i was skeptical about LVG. But at that time no decent coach was avaiable so i understood the "interim" nature of this appoitment. I was sure Jose would be a success. And i said from the beginig that we should not have given Ole a parlament deal.

 

[GBBQ]

My perspective was that all 4 managers made sense at the time:

Moyes - PL proven and (supposedly) chosen by SAF. Far from the best available but it felt like he could maintain a strong team and not be a 3 year project like a Pep or Mourinho.
LVG - Proven pedigree and recent WC escapades meant he might be the personality to bring back the winning feeling, snatching him from under the noses of Spurs was an added bonus. The fact he didn't take any shit felt like he was what the dressing room needed after the open revolt under Moyes.
Mourinho - After two failed appointments it felt like we needed someone with a win-at-all-costs mentality. Even if he might not last more than 3 seasons we would be back in the mix in the league.
Ole - After 2 stints of tumescent football, Ole's positive football as caretaker manager was a tonic. Liverpool fans had gone strangely quiet and we had that night in Paris. the results were generally good and he was getting more out of players we knew were talented.

So yep, pretty much wrong on all 4 counts

 

[11101]

Never wanted Moyes but was prepared to back him. That ended about 3 games in.

I thought LVG was better than most did and I still think with more time he would have got us on the right track.

Mourinho I thought would win things but we should have appointed him in 2013, 2016 was too late.

Ole I dont think is good enough but a little portion of me thinks he might get it right.

 

[Greck]

Ahh a thread to give myself a blowie. Don't mind if I do. Called Ole shouldn't have been hired at the time and the thread announcing him as permanent will confirm. Also in the summer that we should part ways rather than spend 6 months confirming what the rest of the world knew. Didn't know Jose would fail epically but at least realised a year earlier than most. Lukaku I maintained wasn't good enough back in the early days when saying so would get one pelted with abuse. Moyes and LVG appointments i was happy with so there's some shame

 

[Revaulx]

I thought LVG was the manager who’d steady us and get us back challenging. Horrible football, interviews and signings.

Well there you go. I thought his interviews were great

 

[Revaulx]

Right on Moyes.

Wrong on LvG. Still like him though.

Wrong on Jose in that I expected the implosion to come earlier.

Right on Ole (so far), though I don’t think he’s doing as terrible a job as some of his more vehement critics think.

Not inclined to judge any of them harshly on their awful transfer records. I’m firmly of the belief that that’s mainly down to Ed.

 

[NewGlory]

1. I thought Moyes would be a disaster.
2. I thought LvG would be amazing
3. Had serious doubts about Mourinho and basically ended up just the way I thought, in a non-optimistic scenario.
4. Jury is still out on Ole When they appointed him as caretaker, I was wondering what Woody was smoking. But after the winning streak and PSG game, certainly became "Ole In". I think everybody knew it was a gamble, though. Just felt like a very exciting one (Zizu and Pepe-kind)

 

[Havak]

I didn't think we'd win anything under Moyes once we saw how the first Summer window was going, but I thought we'd finish in the top four. I didn't predict the huge fall from grace.

With LvG, I was hopeful he'd turn it around after the signings we made and pre-season. I again didn't think we'd win the title right away, but thought once LvG got everyone invested in his play-style and made more signings we'd go really close if not win it the following season. Unfortunately, I think his boring style effected everyone negatively and the players weren't interested towards the end of his tenure. His second season really cost him, he'd have needed a comfortable top four finish and more exciting football just to have a chance of staying, as when Jose was available at the time it'd have been hard to turn him down. Even at his most boring, he was more exciting than LvG but had the winning aura.

With Jose, I thought he'd sorted us out with a few trophies and a second place finish. I thought at that point, we could definitely challenge for the title and maybe even win it. Jose had a new contract, but was only allowed to sign Fred when he definitely wanted at least another two expensive players. When he didn't get what he wanted, it all went pear shaped as there was a knock on effect of players thinking they weren't good enough anymore. I didn't foresee the drop being as low as it was, but thought it was definitely a missed opportunity as at the time I thought City would drop below 95 Points in their second season (they hadn't retained a title yet) and while Liverpool's business was amazing, I didn't think they'd suddenly go over 90 Points either. Obviously, I ended up massively wrong here but still maintain that if Jose was backed, we'd have had a good crack at it and maybe won a trophy of some kind. You could see where the holes in our team were despite finishing 2nd, they weren't filled.

Lastly, with Ole I was against giving him the full-time job. We simply had to wait until the end of the season and then make the decision.* Absolute shambles by those in charge and I think this shows that they've been the biggest problem post-Fergie. I don't think we'll win a title until after the board is changed, regardless of money spent or managerial signings. Easy to say now, but it's the 'prediction' I'm most confident in.

*Once he was given the full time position however, I did say that we had to either give him this full season or sack him before it started. Should be grabbing Poch IMO come the Summer no matter what happens now.

 

[JPRouve]

I thought that Moyes would be a disaster and that we wouldn't be successful until at least 2020 but I also thought that the club would be foolish enough to keep him multiple years.
I thought that LVG wouldn't be successful, a FA cup or League cup but no actual success, though I thought that he would give some sense to our squad and club philosophy.
I thought that Mourinho was the wrong choice but that he would have relative success on the short term, a cup and probably a PL win or title challenge during his first three years until a proper meltdown.
Ole, I had no idea. I don't know him as a manager.

 

[red woppit]

Never a Moyes fan, thought he was the wrong appointment at the time, LVG I thought was a good appointment after watching Netherlands in the World Cup, but grew disillusioned after some of the most boring football I had ever seen, 80% possession, and 5 shots was criminal, glad when José took over, but I thought he had got the job he really coveted, so would stay for a long time, but he acted like a petulant child when Ed wouldn't sanction some of his player requests, so no surprise when he went, it seemed like a toxic atmosphere at OT. Ole I like a lot, and would give him another season to create his United team. Reminds me of the early Fergie years, when so many fans turned against him for some of the poor football that was dished up, but give the club credit they stuck with him, and we all know the outcome. So many fans turn against managers when we don't get instant success, but it been shown by many clubs that if you stick with a manager, most of the time you will get success, whether Ole is the man I don't know, but I would give him until summer 2021 to create something here. Changing the manager is not always the answer, they tend to take at least two seasons to get their own players in, and playing their own way, so I will stick with Ole.

 

[stubie]

Moyes - Predicted a disaster when we appointed him, take no satisfaction in been proved right

LVG - Club needed a big character at the time, unfortunately his mentality changed after the 5-3 defeat to Leicester, we suddenly became too boring to watch

Mourinho - Thought this was the one (3 years late), started well with trophies and a great start to the 17/18 season, then typical Jose creating a toxic atmosphere around the place

OGS - Needed at the time after the Mourinho disaster, started well, got the job permanently too soon, players then downed tools, we are now paying the price

Woodward (deserves a mention) - Where do I begin?

 

[Forevergiggs1]

I actually thought Moyes was the correct choice. He did a good job in maintaining Everton in the top half of the league on a consistent basis and they didn't play football half as bad as many think. He deserved his chance at a bigger club.

No way wanted LVG. I remember watching his final press conferences when he was in his second stint at Barca and he was mentally unravelling before everyones eyes. Way too arrogant for it to work with us.

If Mourinho had of become manager straight after SAF maybe he would of done a better job of things. I think refusing him twice before he got the job hurt his ego and he wasn't fully on board when he did finally get his chance. Did not want because of his tendency to implode after a few seasons.

After Ole came in and we went on that bounce when he was appointed full time I had a conflict of interest. He brought the feel good factor back but the timing of his appointment felt strange because it was after a few loses. Ed panicked because as he is useless in his job he thought giving Ole the full time gig he wouldn't have to actually do his job and look for another manager. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but everything about it felt wrong.

 

[El-Manos]

Had reservations about Moyes and LVG. Was delighted with Mourinho at the time. Ole we all knew was going to be a huge risk.

 

[TRUERED89]

Backed all 4 but had more doubts about Moyes than the others.

Same.. Especially with Moyes's demeanour and underdog comments after every game, being the current champions!