So we hope he loses form and regresses as a player, then we swoop in?The dream would be the hype and inflation that comes with it dies down a bit, then we buy him in a couple of years once a few more positions are sorted and have actual good options
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I don't think Chong's chances at United should dictate whether we buy a much needed CM now. Chong is 20 years old. If he's going to make it as a United player he needs to be noticed and force Ole to give him chances. Otherwise, he's not good enough and can move on or accept a loan deal to develop elsewhere. Chong is far down the pecking order as it is and the only reason he's getting the chances now is because we have a depleted squad. The bar is not very high to get chances ahead of the three you mentioned.
I personally doubt it but hopefully proven wrong. Think his debut will be against Burnley on the Wednesday
Probably that's the plan. Grealish can operate anywhere in that midfield and is cheaper as well. 45m for Grealish and 50 for Bruno would give us enough options for the same money Maddison would cost.
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.What a fecking great signing he's going to be.Scores goals for fun,set piece specialist, a leader, puts a shift in for 90 minutes.Christ, everything that we don't have AND he wants to join United.
Get it fecking done and get him in the starting XI as soon as bloody possible.
.What a fecking great signing he's going to be.Scores goals for fun,set piece specialist, a leader, puts a shift in for 90 minutes.Christ, everything that we don't have AND he wants to join United.Get it fecking done and get him in the starting XI as soon as bloody possible.
Happy days.. Other than Mata every now and again, i dont want Periera or Lingard anywhere near that No10 role.
What do you mean, when? Why do you think Gomes is not playing since the beginning of the season? He doesn't want to sign... So Ole doesn't want to develop him and then let him go for free.
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Get it fecking done and get him in the starting XI as soon as bloody possible.
I can’t say I disagree with any of that
He's been injured a fair bit and has played in the last two games or have you not been watching?
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Get it fecking done and get him in the starting XI as soon as bloody possible.
I now expect no less than 20 goals and 20 assists a season from this absolute baller after such a glowing recommendation! feck the rest, it doesn't come any better than BRUNO
Your logic is wrong in my opinion. You are suggesting that we should not improve our starting eleven with a quality player, to keep the place for a player that we don't even know if ever will be ready to play for us. Also if you can't impose yourself in the pecking order ahead of Pereira, Lingard or Mata, you have no place to play for this club.
Edit: Forgot to quote the NWred first post.
Edit: Forgot to quote the NWred first post.
He's gonna be a great signing, I tell ya!!
United are linked with signing a 25 year old who is a million times better than anything we have in that position. So why you feel "cold " is baffling. Gomes and Chong especially need a loan season because both are quite a way off being regulars for United
So, who are the top targets? Bruno cannot be one of them, because? Or are you seriously suggesting that strengthening the midfield is not needed? Really? United have a young enough profile already and we cannot fill the team with 19 years olds only if qualifying for CL is a goal for this (or next) season. If Pogba is leaving next summer, he should be replaced with Gomes?
Grealish is shite, Maddison isn't anything special either. Just overrated cause they're English
Can you imagine if this doesnt happen AGAIN?!
I wonder, just maybe, just throwing it out there, maybe you've got a problem with English players.
With our history of failed transfers I can see why people are doubting him. And to be honest so am I. However he ticks all the boxes. His goal contributions was 50 in 53 games last year and this year he has something like 15 goals and 13 assists. Yes he is in a weaker league but his stats are impressive and not a one season wonder. He works hard. He is a captain so can help our young players. Is the right age. The right mentality. He has everything. The only question is will he make the step up. But thats exactly the type f player we need to attract. Not the finished article. Yes maybe Dybala or someone like that might be a better player right now but does he want to play for us? Does he have the drive and determination or is would he come just for the money. I dont know if he will make the step up but he Im excited to see. Even Maguire and Bissaka I doubt because I dont know if they will ever get over their limitations - speed and attacking ability. With Fernandez we arnt questioning can he improve his shooting, can we improve his assist rate etc. He has it all. Its just a matter of applying it to the Prem. And if he does he will be one of the greatest players we have signed for a long time. But will he sign......
You can't be serious
I know what you mean! Got that ‘Mkhitaryan, Ozil’ type face where you automatically think weak mentally!
Hopefully my facial profiling is well off though and he turns out be more of a De Bruyne machine! The fact he’s sporting’s captain suggests he’s got something about him
I'm officially looking forward to this now. It's gonna happen right?
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Somehow, I absolutely can
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Chong won't make it here, its not an issue
Some people completely disregard the role the player played in, system, actual abilities as a player etc.
This season in the Portuguese league (using Whoscored as the basis for the stats):
Highest rating in the league. Don't know what to take from this given that their algorithm is "secret" and seems to give high ratings to offensive players. I would argue that their weighting of different elements of the game is wrong (https://lib.ugent.be/fulltxt/RUG01/002/304/375/RUG01-002304375_2016_0001_AC.pdf) and favours offensive players with a high risk/reward style of play --> Pepe and Ben Arfa top 10 ratings in Ligue 1 last season. What WhoScored is useful for is raw data: Key passes, loss of possession, long balls etc.
Key Passes: 3.7 per game. (Set pieces included)
Long balls (over 25 yards): 3.9 successful, 3.9 unsuccessful
Short passing: 40 successful, 10 unsuccessful.
Dispossessed: 2.1 times per game. Unsuccessful touches 2.7 times per game. Combined they are higher than PP last season.
3.6 shots per game.
In general, he plays high-risk football. I think his attractive stats, like goals, assists and key passes per game are not going to translate into our league at all (similar to Pepe for Arsenal). He will get even less time on the ball and not the same opportunities or situations for pinpointing a cross or the final pass. People thinking that he will help our passing and build-up play will be disappointed. Our problems in trying to create against a balanced defence will not be fixed by adding a gung-ho player like him that will shot or try to make the killer pass as soon as he gets the ball in the final third. Patience, efficient passing and movement until good situations happens (What City does) is what is needed for this. And Bruno Fernandes is not the type of player to play this type of football.
He will be an asset on set pieces, should we sign him, but struggle in the general play against teams and players that will not give him time on the ball nor allow many situations where he will be able to play the final pass. And he is not good enough on the ball or physical enough to create these situations for himself either without risking to lose the ball.
For our current approach on how to attack (transition dependent, inpatient and coincidental), Bruno would fit right in. When OGS is replaced, hopefully by a manager and coaching team that prefers a more relevant type of football, his high-risk style of play may not be that useful anymore.
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Step away from the thread, go outside, blow a stranger for crack money, help a friend.
When you distract yourself you'll realise that these things happen faster.
Step away from the thread, go outside, blow a stranger for crack money, help a friend.
When you distract yourself you'll realise that these things happen faster.
There’s nothing new in it.
We were interested in summer, but thought he was too expensive. They’ve lowered their asking price but also want Rojo. Rojo is keen to leave, but Sporting don’t want to pay his wages. Woodward hopes for the deal to be finished soon.
Is “holding further talks” the new “preparing a bid”
I'd have to agree, he has been given starts against lower league opposition, and still didn't look like he could hack it. Brandon Williams and Greenwood have raised their game at the highest level against top opposition.
We've seen playmakers with the same profile like both Silva's at Citeh and Payet be smashing successes in the Prem too though so I don't think his appearance means all that much
Except the times only expect it to be concluded before the close of the window so he's probably getting the boat up.
Muppets to the port.
There’s distraction then there’s this!
I think we're signing a player who's likely to need quite a while to adjust and we're doing it due to short term considerations only. If we were signing Grealish or Maddison it would make more sense as they're already up to speed with the PL but I just don't see this having a significant impact this season and it means we won't be signing our top targets for the position in the summer. If he's good enough now why wasn't he signed last summer? It reeks of both poor planning and short term thinking, something I though we were getting away from. Like I said, it's the first time I've really doubted Ole is the right man for the job (obviously I hope I'm wrong).
A watched pot never boils. Never understood that. Of course it does, if sufficient heat is under it.
Step away from the thread, go outside, blow a stranger for crack money, help a friend.
When you distract yourself you'll realise that these things happen faster. The laws of physics are different when it comes to transfers.
No, just the ones I think are overrated. I am English after all too
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