In all honesty, why wasn’t this done in December so he could join the 1st Jan?
It feels like this wasn’t planned at all..
It feels like this wasn’t planned at all..
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Now Sky reporting it aswell, it says Sporting want Rojo as part of the deal.
Rojo goes, Fernandes comes, it would be the perfect deal tbh.
Rojo goes, Fernandes comes, it would be the perfect deal tbh.
you do realise he plays in Portugal not Premier League?I know very little about him but the way he moves his body and the ball on his first touch is just how Scholes used to do it. On that alone he has to be better than Lingard.
Keep in mind that although we havent been doing great this season, he will however be working with a very good set of players ahead of him. Rashford and Martial have been making SO many runs that our current midfield havnt been able to pick out, so whilst his numbers at the moment will be inflated by playing against weaker teams, he will also be playing WITH better players.
I keep hearing this again and again. Tell me how many midfielder in any league out there has scored as much as Bruno does. He has 5 goals in Europa also, same competition which United is playing at the moment. Can you tell me which midfielder has scored as many goals he has in that competition?
Scoring 44 goal in 2 year is insane for any midfielder no matter which league he is playing in. And Portuguese league is not the worst league in Europe.
These kinds of arguments don't never hold water for me. RVN was from the Dutch league. Ronaldo was from Portuguese league. If the player is motivated enough, the league they're coming from is irrelevant.
He's gonna be our best signing in years.
Some people completely overplay the quality of a league in deciding how good a player is or not. Van Dijk came from the SPL for just one example. The idea that say you wouldn't buy De Jong or De Ligt because they had only played in the Dutch league would be bonkers, same if you were in for Ziyech or Van de Beek now, or Suarez 7 or 8 years ago. An abundance of good players have also done well in the Portuguese league.
Slight reality check guys. Bruno Fernandes is a decent player - however he hasn't done enough to merit the sheer overreaction to his ability. He had a shocker in Italy which is why he went back to Portugal.
I have wound Arsenal fans up at work about Pepe for months now, purely because I wanted him at United, not because hes a bad player. Get ready for the backlash when Bruno comes and takes time to settle in.
I have wound Arsenal fans up at work about Pepe for months now, purely because I wanted him at United, not because hes a bad player. Get ready for the backlash when Bruno comes and takes time to settle in.
I don’t think clubs plan to sign players in January, January is there to get rid of players that want out or sign someone because they become available when previously they weren’t or if you’re lacking options (us currently). This is why the big money deals usually happen in the Summer instead. I do agree that we aren’t anywhere close to being efficient/shrewd during the transfer windows but January isn’t a predictable window so you can’t blame the club for that.
Ronaldo and Nani is two other players that came from Portugal.
If a player stands out in Portugal/Holland/other mid/lower upper european league then it's a fair shout to say they can do it in the premier league.
Obviously for every Bergkamp and Van Nistlerooy, you might get a kezman
He also flopped massively at Sampdoria & Udinese and hasn't played anywhere but Portugal, a very weak league. Lets just try and be realistic instead of talking him up so much that he disappoints when he doesn't do those numbers in the PL.
I don't know enough about this guy to know how it will impact the team/squad. Assume he would play as part of a midfield 3, or in the 3 of a 4231? Does he play in the same spaces that Pogba would? If this happens, does that mean Pogba is out the door?
Sporting want United to pay some of Rojo's wages. Solskjær should be swimming across to Portugal with Marcos Rojo and a bag of money on his back if they'd really take him in part exchange for Bruno Fernandes. Maybe Jones could join?
Comes from a lower league. But he has shown his assistance-skills (as well as goalscoring abillity). With the likes of Rashford and Martial in front of him it can be sensational. And Rashford.. he can florish even more. Remember all the runs he has taken, just to watch Lingard mess it up! The tempo in england is an argument though, with little time on the ball when tempo is high. But I'm pretty sure our attacking play will be so much better with Bruno!
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Sporting are desperate to sell but are we desperate to buy? I really doubt so. I think we are trying to push down the price and by including a couple of our players into the deal. Still think Sporting will eventually accept what we offer
Being a ball boy requires you to get control of the ball and releasing it quickly. No for me for Lingard as ball boy.
It is when it's in response to someone who was overplaying how good he is by comparing his stats in Portugal to those of Maddison and Grealish combined in the PL.
Context always matters.
We won't know how good is he til he gets here, if he ever does.
I always liked Frank Lampard, and this is the closest reincarnation...but let's hope he can be at least half as productive in a tougher league with higher expectations!
I remember watching the Italian media a few years back. There was some of the most respectable Italian sports journalists of the time and they were talking about transfers. For some strange reason it turned on Manchester United and their new 12m signings made. All journalists were sneering at it. What was Sir Alex thinking of spending 12m for some thin 18 year old Portuguese whom given the time he'll dribble himself to the corner flag? Surely the club could buy someone proven at that fee? Don't take me wrong, the Italians like Sir Alex, mainly because of his record + his friendship with Lippi whose a bit of the godfather of Italian football. However they couldn't hide their disappointment in us doing such a bubu. We all know who ends up laughing on that.
I am not saying that Bruno will be the new Cristiano Ronaldo. However he's far less of gamble then the 18 year old was. First of all he's older. Secondly he's already played abroad in a decent league. Thirdly there's certain positive traits that are transferable irrespective of the league he's playing in. He's a leader, he's hardworking, his got a great eye for goal, his deadly in set pieces and from outside the box......those are relevant and welcomed irrespective if he's playing in Portugal or in England. If someone like Vardy, Ings and Pukki can score goals then so can Fernandes.
Just saw a video and he's a bit more dynamic than I remember Lampard being with the runs in behind the defence (whereas Lampard used to occupy the pocket at the edge of the box rather than run in behind) but he's got the deflected goals down to a tee.
Even years ago transfers used to drag from time to time. I thinks it is just more noticeable these days due to twitter and forums and the likes. But I do recall two massive transfers totally out of the blue in Eric Cantona and Andy Cole. Could you imagine something like that these days? It would be like us signing Harry Kane with no speculation. Red Cafe would explode!
If he flops he flops. We have literally no one in midfield & as long as this transfer doesn't block us from buying the further quality and quantity we need then I'm okay if he ends up struggling.
It's time that Bruno Fernandes takes the role of Lingard, Mata & to some extent pereira - & even if he only improves us by a 10% margin - at this point I'd be more than happy to still see that rather than nothing at all.
People talk about how all he can do is be a dead ball specialist on free kicks & corners & occasionally score a screamer - then so be it. We haven't had a player who is consistent in sending free kicks in god knows how long & we have way too many midfielders who do nothing at all for us not to even have that in midfield.
As long as Fernandes doesn't stop us getting players like Grealish in the summer then in okay for an even marginal improvement.
It's time that Bruno Fernandes takes the role of Lingard, Mata & to some extent pereira - & even if he only improves us by a 10% margin - at this point I'd be more than happy to still see that rather than nothing at all.
People talk about how all he can do is be a dead ball specialist on free kicks & corners & occasionally score a screamer - then so be it. We haven't had a player who is consistent in sending free kicks in god knows how long & we have way too many midfielders who do nothing at all for us not to even have that in midfield.
As long as Fernandes doesn't stop us getting players like Grealish in the summer then in okay for an even marginal improvement.
He's more of an 8/10 than a 6. In a 4231, he would play the 10 and in a 433 he would play the 8 alongside Pogba.
I'm not saying he won't make in the PL, just the quoted person directly compared his output to Grealish and Maddison, who are playing in a much tougher league. Actually, I do think he will need time to adapt to PL, but that's beside the point. Also, Vardy, Ings and Pukki are strikers.
The expectations of this guy seems sky high around here, I hope he eclipses Ronaldo for all it matters, but there's also plenty of players that did well in other leagues and didn't make it here, especially in recent years. He's not getting coached by prime Fergie here let's be honest.
Denis Bergkamp also failed in Italy
So you're saying Bruno isn't better than Grealish or Maddison just because they play in the Premier League?
So did Henry, and both were very slow starters when they moved to the Premier League.
Is playing for sampdoria going to be easy? Say compared to playing for Juventus or Inter Milan?
I'm sure the Glazers are patting themselves on the back now for refusing to sell Rojo to "top four rival" Everton.
If Rojo goes surely we go for a new CB as well?
We are low on CB as is.
We are low on CB as is.
Even if he flops, we know he will be contributing for goals than say a lingard. This guy is top scorer from midfield for a reason, he knows how to shoot for sure which cant be said about Lingard.
Happy to see us in talks but one thing's for sure, he won't fix our midfield issues on his own.
This is an even worse comparison.
A pic of Ronaldo who was able to cut it in a top league before the age of 22, unlike Fernandes.
The comparison isn't valid. When Bergkamp joined Arsenal the PL was a much weaker league compared to Italy. He got much more time and space in the PL than he ever did in Italy.
Thierry Henry did as well didn't he?
My favourite transfer day. I didn't know anything about the deal and suddenly we had signed two mega talents of the game. feck yeah. Random exciting stuff used to happen back then. Like the twins being signed. Or those 5 Brazilians we were signing (were the twins part of that?). My memory is hazy on that one.
I also think we're due an LVG type summer where we go bonkers and sign 6 in one summer. 6 signings! Madness.
This must be happening now.
I don't know much about him to be honest, but I like what I do know - big improvement on what we have there and the exact age we should be looking at now. That's enough to make me happy about it. Anyway, look forward to him getting injured and seeing Lingard back in that spot
I don't know much about him to be honest, but I like what I do know - big improvement on what we have there and the exact age we should be looking at now. That's enough to make me happy about it. Anyway, look forward to him getting injured and seeing Lingard back in that spot
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