Ed Woodward's house attacked by 20-30 balaclava wearing "United fans"

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Honestly, am I in such a small minority who isnt ‘that’ bothered or disgusted.
Yeah they went too far and I dont like the idea of his family being intimidated but really its just about them deserving a police caution or whatever. It was just a small number of people with a can of spray paint and a cpl of flares. No one was ever going to be hurt.
OK a couple of idiots going a bit too far but it was just a flare lobbed over a gate. Theres worse happen every day in every town.
Is this overreaction due to media sensationalism or am i being 43 just not as sensitive to stuff as younger people?
My biggest gripe is that a couple of idiots have generated massive sympathy for Ed to be honest.
Sorry but this is a joke of a post. A group of thugs went to intimidate somebody at their own home because they think they deserve something more from their club. It's fecking pathetic behaviour and should be completely condemned by any right thinking person. The fact you are downplaying it and saying things like ' OK a couple of idiots going a bit too far ' is a bit shameful on your part. How would you feel if a group of men turned up at your house to intimidate you and your family? Wise up.
 

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Sad to say I’m not even surprised there’s idiots on here trying to backhandedly (or even just directly in some cases) justify this type of scumbag behaviour.
It's pretty disgraceful really. Especially those that don't think it's any kind of big deal. You really have to question if that's the kind of member we should be looking to retain on a board like this.
 

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Unacceptable and a bunch of cowards!

That said, such things sadly happen when you invovle yourself into such an emotional game:

The people who sold their stocks to Glazers were discriminated
The Glazers were attacked at a hotel in Manchester
Rooney's house was attacked
and now Woodward
 

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Sorry but this is a joke of a post. A group of thugs went to intimidate somebody at their own home because they think they deserve something more from their club. It's fecking pathetic behaviour and should be completely condemned by any right thinking person. The fact you are downplaying it and saying things like ' OK a couple of idiots going a bit too far ' is a bit shameful on your part. How would you feel if a group of men turned up at your house to intimidate you and your family? Wise up.
Well said.
 

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It could be a PR stunt :lol:. I mean we are thickly and the media are a crazy bunch wouldn’t surprise me if they said this will give you abit more time.

I mean are people going to still consider walking out the ground against Wolves? We should but I bet this cools some of the anger.
Well you shouldn't worry about the walkout, the same bunch said that it was a PR stunt too. This is apparently the PR stunt to avoid the PR stunt.
 

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Cops in America would have wasted them.
Glazer security would have shot them. Hell, I live in Texas and neighbor would have probbabl shot them. 'Merica.

Ahhhh.The privilege and beauty of living in a place without guns. You can harass people outside their homes without worrying about retribution.
Obviously tongue and cheek but hopefully someone takes the bait.
 

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I am on RedCafe. I see it for myself every day, oh my brother.

Look, all I’m saying is I find this particular incident fishy. I wasn’t around following United for the Fergie and Glazer incidents so I can’t comment on those. I didn’t even hear about the Rooney one. Of course I wouldn’t put it past some nutters to toss a flare. There is reasonable evidence to deduce that. I also wouldn’t put it past a tabloid PR guy/Ed to set this up. And there is also reasonable evidence to deduce that too. I’ve seen enough in my life to be willing to accept major incidents being fabricated and I don’t find it to be idiotic.
It's a complete false economy in my view. One thing that would actually make his position untenable would be staging false flag attacks on his house. It has been reported as 20 men. Why would you employ so many people to carry out the attack? That's a whole lot of people that are going to gossip among their mates and the truth would be certain to get out. How much would someone make from selling this story to the press? It would be worth the criminal damage charge.

It's Manchester United not geopolitics.
 

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I highly, highly doubt its a PR stunt... just some idiots being, well, idiots.

Doesn't change much though... well all know there's a lot of fans that are wankers, and we all know Ed is crap at his job.

However, Ashton will obviously milk this for all its worth for the Ed sympathy, as he well should, because that's his job now.
 

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This, basically. We all love football but in the end, the game isn't such a big deal.

Honestly, football has been a small part of my life since I stopped actually playing myself around 18. We all love the sport but when you drill down, all it actually is, is a form of entertainment that sees you live vicariously through a group of 11 millionaires that you don't know and never will know. The group of millionaires changes every few years, the shirt colour stays the same. I get the whole 'feeling of belonging to a community' thing but I don't personally subscribe to it religiously. Football remains a form of entertainment for me, not a life or death religion, so I can never understand the sort of fans that do shit like this (or hooligans in general - angry, frustrated young men with nothing else going on in their lives, who feel a sense of achievement from 'representing the shirt' in a fight. Get a life).
 

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I saw a tweet last night at about 9pm before the news broke, saying MEC are back. I’m sure it’s a mixture of older and newer fans though.

I’m not condoning it at all, but it’s nothing new. Football fans in England are pretty sheltered compared to what happens in Europe.
Yep. The MEC are pretty tame in comparison to most groups in Europe.

I remember talking to some of them as a teenager in the mid 00s and being in awe of their passion for United.

I do think that this might do harm than good though. Our support has changed since 2005 and you need to win over the moderates and the apathetic to get more involved. Part of the reason why I think this isn’t a planned MEC operation...
 

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Disgusting behaviour from United fans. Turn up at a mans house to intimidate. Regardless of what is going on at United no one deserves to be treated like that. This new generation is really something else
 

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It's a complete false economy in my view. One thing that would actually make his position untenable would be staging false flag attacks on his house. It has been reported as 20 men. Why would you employ so many people to carry out the attack? That's a whole lot of people that are going to gossip among their mates and the truth would be certain to get out. How much would someone make from selling this story to the press? It would be worth the criminal damage charge.

It's Manchester United not geopolitics.
I don’t do false flags personally so I don’t know the best methods. Maybe there weren’t even 20 people? Reports can be exaggerated. The supposed video, which could have been taken from literally anywhere in the world as far as we know, only implicates 3 people — flarethrower, some guy, and the cameraman. Still enough for me to be skeptical.
 

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A lot of 12 year olds on this board these days it seems.
 

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I don’t do false flags personally so I don’t know the best methods. Maybe there weren’t even 20 people? Reports can be exaggerated. The supposed video, which could have been taken from literally anywhere in the world as far as we know, only implicates 3 people — flarethrower, some guy, and the cameraman. Still enough for me to be skeptical.
Stop watching InfoWars.
 

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It's pretty disgraceful really. Especially those that don't think it's any kind of big deal. You really have to question if that's the kind of member we should be looking to retain on a board like this.
Agreed
 

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Honestly, am I in such a small minority who isnt ‘that’ bothered or disgusted.
Yeah they went too far and I dont like the idea of his family being intimidated but really its just about them deserving a police caution or whatever. It was just a small number of people with a can of spray paint and a cpl of flares. No one was ever going to be hurt.
OK a couple of idiots going a bit too far but it was just a flare lobbed over a gate. Theres worse happen every day in every town.
Is this overreaction due to media sensationalism or am i being 43 just not as sensitive to stuff as younger people?
My biggest gripe is that a couple of idiots have generated massive sympathy for Ed to be honest.
Your post is a prick.
 

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I thought our fans were better than this and some of the comments I've read on here have left me disappointed to say the least. It's a fecking game of football, fair enough vent your anger towards him through the chants (some which are in bad taste) or on here/social media about how poorly he's performing in his job, just don't do what these imbeciles have done and take it too far, the guy has a young family.

I actually can't believe I'm reading people on here condoning the behaviour and feel this is an acceptable way to act as a fan, absolutely classless set of morons.
 

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Even as a kid growing up on Wythenshawe council estate the written rule was you left people's house alone, if you have a problem with someone you take it up elsewhere.

They have matches to protest, a training ground to protest, they have social media to protest.

You don't scare someone's family at the family home.
 

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But its more likely that this was staged by Manchester United
Where has Man Utd officially come out and said anything?

Yes, there is a statement, but not on our social channels. Why?

I wouldn’t wish bad on anyone on that kind of scale. But this all doesn’t add up. Him or his family weren’t even at home.

Anyway, I’ve said my bit. You can be as gullible as you want.
 

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Wonder how many of those idiots are regular readers of the CAF. Should be ashamed of themselves, I’m ashamed to have any common interest with them already. Probably the same guys who were mouthing off at Pogba calling him a wanker and telling him to F off after a game at OT.

Just pathetic.

Imagine how his poor kids and wife felt as things were shouted and pelted at their house. Honestly some right scum bags.
 

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Wow, 14 pages on this already... in what was essentially just a few idiots shouting outside a house...

Incredible that as the window draws to a close, all talk is now on this and the Fernandes heroics by Woodward rather than the disgraceful job he and the owners are doing to the club.

Pretty quick turnaround in 24 hours really.

Amazing stuff for the Glazers and Woodward - right when the pressure was really becoming tangible upon them!
 

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It's pretty disgraceful really. Especially those that don't think it's any kind of big deal. You really have to question if that's the kind of member we should be looking to retain on a board like this.
Silly bunch cant see a lot of the sympathy is because his children will live in a state of fear because of it. Any cautious family man will have his family in a hotel for the next week or two. Anyone who thinks it's worth it needs to have this happen to their kids one day to learn why it isn't
 

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In some ways I feel for Ed because he's the front man for the Glazers. A lot of the anger aimed at him should be equally shared among the Glazer family too but they are the invisible men. Nobody ever sees them. They don't live here and they rarely ever attend games. He's the fall guy unfortunately.

Woodward has been way out his depth and made too many awful mistakes to have kept his job. However he's not taken £1.3bn out of the club to pay interest on THEIR debt plus re-financing and dividends etc. The Glazers are the number 1 enemy ultimately. He's just their fall guy sadly.
 

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This is an appalling display that ultimately will strengthen Woodward's position rather than getting in a great replacement. If he leaves now because of this incident we will get 5 minutes of celebration but he will be replaced by another man in a suit by the Glazer's. It will buy them some time and we will get more excuses that fans will swallow because they come from the new boss (who's just the same as the old boss).

Effective protests and a financial "blockade" by supporters that cripples cash flow will have far more impact on the club and will show the board that fans can be intelligent and will demand a real change in direction / getting a good DOF to handle football matters.

As for the conspiracy theorists well, don't be surprised if the club milk this for all it's worth, but that does not mean complicity. Yes Bush and Cheney capitalised on the events of 9-11 but that was to make political capital and to hide their own mistakes in dealing with the matter. See any parallels?

Acts like this allow Woodward and the club to change the agenda away from his naive and antagonistic approach, that has seen us lose out on numerous targets and seen other valuable team members leave after feeling devalued by Woodward. The focus should be on his workplace actions where we can criticise and offer constructive alternatives. Leave his family out of this!
 

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I'd like to add that the people in this thread suggesting conspiracy theories are fecking insane.
 
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Wow, 14 pages on this already... in what was essentially just a few idiots shouting outside a house...

Incredible that as the window draws to a close, all talk is now on this and the Fernandes heroics by Woodward rather than the disgraceful job he and the owners are doing to the club.

Pretty quick turnaround in 24 hours really.

Amazing stuff for the Glazers and Woodward - right when the pressure was really becoming tangible upon them!
Stop watching InfoWars :nono:
 

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In some ways I feel for Ed because he's the front man for the Glazers. A lot of the anger aimed at him should be equally shared among the Glazer family too but they are the invisible men. Nobody ever sees them. They don't live here and they rarely ever attend games. He's the fall guy unfortunately.

Woodward has been way out his depth and made too many awful mistakes to have kept his job. However he's not taken £1.3bn out of the club to pay interest on THEIR debt plus re-financing and dividends etc. The Glazers are the number 1 enemy ultimately. He's just their fall guy sadly.
Don't want to take the thread sideways but the main culprit for the shit team is Ed's.
 

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In some ways I feel for Ed because he's the front man for the Glazers. A lot of the anger aimed at him should be equally shared among the Glazer family too but they are the invisible men. Nobody ever sees them. They don't live here and they rarely ever attend games. He's the fall guy unfortunately.

Woodward has been way out his depth and made too many awful mistakes to have kept his job. However he's not taken £1.3bn out of the club to pay interest on THEIR debt plus re-financing and dividends etc. The Glazers are the number 1 enemy ultimately. He's just their fall guy sadly.
It doesn't really give anyone, let alone a group of masked men, any excuse to attack his house. People thinking this is a PR Stunt by Woody have seriously lost their marbles.
 

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How sad and stupid do you have to be to do this?

Imagine sitting there and coming to the conclusion that it's a good idea to go to Ed Woodward's house and throw a flare at it.
 
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