[Buster15]

Are we physically the weakest side in the league? We were just bouncing off Wolves all afternoon. James, Pereira, Martial and Mata in particular. We were crossing the ball in, but for what? Look at the size of us compared to them. Who is going to win the physical battle?

City aren't a 'big' side either, but Aguero, Sterling, the Silvas are tough and can hold their own. Pereira and James are like children playing against men. They lose the ball so easily.

Actually that is a good point. Wolverhampton are a big and physically strong team.
What is pretty clear is that many of our players lack upper body strength. Martial in particular is too easily knocked off the ball.
Andreas too.

Shaw may be on the heavy side but he uses his body far better than most.
And if we fans can see this then you have to question why the coaching team don't do something about it.

 

[gerdm07]

Utter shit. Feel sorry for Bruno. He's got goals and assists coming out of his arse and that dipshit Norwegian has him playing deeper than Pereira.Pereira is shit!!, Bruno needs to be on the edge of the box, that's their box not our fecking box Solskjaer! Anyone still thinks this idiot should still be manager has to be having a laugh when he can't even see that the best position for our new signing is further up the field and not as a holding midfielder.

You really think Fred and Pereira can be a good DM pair? It started like that but it was obvious it was not going to work. That and the fact we were up against a good counter team meant we need two DMs, especially with Fred needing to help with Adama.

How would you line up?

 

[Forevergiggs1]

I am prepared to give Ole more time but I don't rate Poch and don't see him suddenly transforming us which doesn't mean I think Ole is currently the best manager there is. In all the time I've been supporting United the most depressed I was , was in 1989, not even when we got relegated in 74. Guess who was manager then.

Fair enough. Obviously Poch isn't everyones cup of tea but before it broke down with him at Spurs I would say the majority would of us would of given our eye teeth to have him as our manager. The dressing room was lost because of various reasons and I don't think one of them was because he wasn't good enough which is why I still think he's one of the best managers we could still sign today.

With Ole I'm afraid he's never going to be good enough no matter how much time he's given. I really would like to be able to buy into this pipe dream that Ole will take us back to the top but I just can't do it.

 

[Irwin99]

When I watch Utd I always try and ask this question: how are we trying to score goals?

If we can't play on the counter then we just huff and puff till we can nick a goal out of nothing (see Matic vs City). That's basically it.

In fairness there are between the line passes being played at times but they always fizzle out into nothing.

 

[pocco]

Most frustrating one of the season for me

why did ole wait until 87th min to make subs????

Nobody at the club seems to care

Not only that but they hadn't warmed up, it's like he forgot about subs.

 

[Le Red]

Can't wait until we have a manager who has never won anything, can't wait till we lose 7-2 at home to Bayern , get knocked out of the League Cup by Colchester and win 6 league games out of 24 in 2019. Right.

Shit post. Like that tells the whole picture. Ole apologists are growing more pathetic every match.

 

[kouroux]

Amazed that Bruno can walk right into the team that soon after joining.

If you ever needed evidence that we don’t actually have a “system” of play that a new player needs to learn, there it was.

This is an interestingly good point.

 

[bsCallout]

I don't really know what people are expecting. They outright say how bad Pereira, Mata, Lingard & James are but then still blame Ole completely.

We've moved on a lot of players we needed out of the club. We have injuries to 3 of our best players. Only two others teams in the league would be able to cope with that to some degree, and we aren't there yet.

It wasn't good enough today but that is the reality of our position this season and Ole said it right from the start. Then we were hit with bad injuries too.

Once we have our best team playing then we can genuinely question what is happening but until then, no manager is getting anything much out of the team that played today. I would have rather had the Wolves front 3.

I'm excited to see something like the below in the final part of the season.

- - - - - - - - De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Williams
- - - - - - - - - - Fred
- - - - Pogba - - - - -McTominay
- - - - - - - - - -Bruno
- - - - - Martial - Rashford

 

[TheGame]

How much more risks?

The back line is just behind the center circle.
Thing is, when the ball goes to either Perreira or James it resulted into feck nothing.

Frustrating to see Wolves hiding like that.

Maybe play 2 up top and play someone like Chong and James on the wing?

 

[nimic]

It seems like we're a counter-attacking team which doesn't counter attack. Even though we had the ball most of the time, we still had plenty of opportunities to put some pace on the play and work the counter, but most of the time we just... didn't. It seems like everyone's favourite move when receiving the ball in the final 3rd is to pass it back.

The supporting pass has its place in attacking football, but not when it's done just because they aren't able do anything else.

 

[Frank Grimes]

9 wins at this stage of the season is unacceptable. Time the Old Trafford crowd started showing their dissatisfaction with Solskjaer.

 

[TheGame]

4-2-3-1 is great for counter-attacking but we need to play two up front against teams we should be beating.

Fully agree or at least change it. It’s that obvious so not sure why he doesn’t do it.

 

[bigphil]

I honestly don’t get why he picks some of those players.
My lineup would of been

De Gea- no brainer at the moment

Dalot- offers much more going forward and with teams that can sit back like wolves did, would of had more variety going forward as a posed to AWB and his awkward step overs and dinks.

lindeov and magiure

shaw- thought he did well today managing traore, got forward well just lacked options when he did

jones and Fred- Fred is a no brainer on current form, breaks up play well and harasses opponent. Jones as a holding MF and nothing more, if he wins the ball, pass it to Fred or Bruno.

Bruno- as a Am/10 link up play from the back and finding those runs( or lack of atm) of players forward.

Martial- out on LW so he can do what he does best, cut in/ run at fullbacks. He is not a number 9, tonight proved that

Greenwood - cf, only available striker atm and a decent one at that considering he’s still young and lots to learn.

Chong- woulda player him on the right today, would link up well with Dalot and has more than one trick up his sleave (James only has pace and can’t cross) can cut in on his left leg, beat a man if needed.

 

[TheGame]

9 wins at this stage of the season is unacceptable. Time the Old Trafford crowd started showing their dissatisfaction with Solskjaer.

Go buy a ticket and do it then.

 

[Banana Republic]

We’ve only won 4 out of 15 points from the last 5 league games (since January 1st).
Compared with the other 19 teams over the last 5 games, that would put us in 17th place.
Watford and Villa are currently in better form in the league despite their lowly positions in the table.

As if we need reminding, we’re on 35 points, but the scousers are 38 points above us, with two thirds of the season gone. That gap can only grow.

 

[sammyhol]

I don't really know what people are expecting. They outright say how bad Pereira, Mata, Lingard & James are but then still blame Ole completely.

We've moved on a lot of players we needed out of the club. We have injuries to 3 of our best players. Only two others teams in the league would be able to cope with that to some degree, and we aren't there yet.

It wasn't good enough today but that is the reality of our position this season and Ole said it right from the start. Then we were hit with bad injuries too.

Once we have our best team playing then we can genuinely question what is happening but until then, no manager is getting anything much out of the team that played today. I would have rather had the Wolves front 3.

I'm excited to see something like the below in the final part of the season.

- - - - - - - - De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Williams
- - - - - - - - - - Fred
- - - - Pogba - - - - -McTominay
- - - - - - - - - -Bruno
- - - - - Martial - Rashford

that formation only works if you a have full backs who offer real width and attacking threat. otherwise we will be far too narrow. I think Williams potentially has that potential, but not from the left where he has to constantly cut inside... worth a shot from the right... or Dalot perhaps... but then it would be shaw from the left, which isn’t ideal either...

we just don’t have the fullbacks to pull off a diamond.

 

[thesheriffjw]

What i watched today was a team with no forward movement whatsoever.

Utd need a target man in the box to play. Martial comes wide leaving no one in the box. Someone like Giroud til end of the season would have been ideal. A player to ping the ball into and then run off him.

This utd team have no ideas at all.

As for pereira, james, mata??? Simply not good enough.

Martial? Doesnt have the mentality.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

We are 38 points behind Liverpool. We have 35 points. Liverpool are more points in front of us than we have points.

 

[11101]

They seem like a bogey team to us and it also seems like we play them every other fecking week.

 

[VeevaVee]

Crap at attacking. Bruno looked well though.

 

[Tomuś]

Go buy a ticket and do it then.

Are you Manchester-based ?

 

[bsCallout]

that formation only works if you a have full backs who offer real width and attacking threat. otherwise we will be far too narrow. I think Williams potentially has that potential, but not from the left where he has to constantly cut inside... worth a shot from the right... or Dalot perhaps... but then it would be shaw from the left, which isn’t ideal either...

we just don’t have the fullbacks to pull off a diamond.

My only argument to that would be, Williams is good enough and I think AWB can be good enough. All I see with AWB is indecision, he really just has to be told to put the ball in to the box early, which would be easier with 2 CFs to attack it. He is pretty decent at crossing in my opinion.

 

[Adcuth]

Martial doesn't wanna be here

 

[bondsname]

Wolves are about our level so 0-0 isn't surprising. I'm not sure starting Greenwood, Chong, or Dalot would've made a difference (if they started).

In my opinion, AWB, Maguire, Lindelöf, Shaw, Fred and Bruno were excellent tonight. Martial and Mata were decent. James and Pereira were awful.

Martial once again is isolated and was fouled a lot. Never once had the opportunity to pick out a pass to player in a better position than him. Mata tried but because of a mediocre attack nothing happened.

This game just shows how desperately we need Rashford. We need him more than Pogba or McTominay imo.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

Its soul destroying

Luke Shaw receives the ball uncontested in the 85th minute (or thereabouts)

I know who he’s going to pass to (Bruno was 10 yards sq and in space)

You know who he’s going to pass to (Bruno was 10 yards sq and in space)

Even Luke Shaw knows who he’s going to pass to (Bruno’s 10 yards sq and in space)

yep. Luke Shaw takes a touch. And then another...

...and then he rolls into Bruno

who by now (after Shaw delaying) has much less time/space.

It’s about fine margins and we just don’t look to have any ability to move the ball around quickly and therefore move the wolves defence out of position.

It’s infuriating to watch and it happens all over the pitch

THIS

 

[tjb]

You really think Fred and Pereira can be a good DM pair? It started like that but it was obvious it was not going to work. That and the fact we were up against a good counter team meant we need two DMs, especially with Fred needing to help with Adama.

How would you line up?

I'm not sure we are suited to a 4231 as current constructed. We have to many attacking holes on the flanks and our striker cannot play as a lone front man. We also struggle building up, and extra man in our building up areas may suit us for now.

Going forward, if we want to use that formation, we may need to buy a right winger than can offer a balanced threat from the right and sign a centre midfielder that can help in the build up of our attacks. We are too slow moving forward.

 

[mu4c_20le]

We are 38 points behind Liverpool. We have 35 points. Liverpool are more points in front of us than we have points.

Guess we're not winning the league this year

 

[bsCallout]

I honestly don’t get why he picks some of those players.
My lineup would of been

De Gea- no brainer at the moment

Dalot- offers much more going forward and with teams that can sit back like wolves did, would of had more variety going forward as a posed to AWB and his awkward step overs and dinks.

lindeov and magiure

shaw- thought he did well today managing traore, got forward well just lacked options when he did

jones and Fred- Fred is a no brainer on current form, breaks up play well and harasses opponent. Jones as a holding MF and nothing more, if he wins the ball, pass it to Fred or Bruno.

Bruno- as a Am/10 link up play from the back and finding those runs( or lack of atm) of players forward.

Martial- out on LW so he can do what he does best, cut in/ run at fullbacks. He is not a number 9, tonight proved that

Greenwood - cf, only available striker atm and a decent one at that considering he’s still young and lots to learn.

Chong- woulda player him on the right today, would link up well with Dalot and has more than one trick up his sleave (James only has pace and can’t cross) can cut in on his left leg, beat a man if needed.

Well I'm just glad you're not the manager to be honest. Every cloud.

 

[Nr.7]

A lot of people blaming Ole.
I’m sure he has better players at his disposal, but chose to play Martial, Pereira, James and Mata instead.
I’m sure he told Martial to stay away from their box and to drift outside and told Pereira to curb his worldclass decision making.

He waited untill the 87th min to change things? He made a few changes at half time actually with James going right, Pereira on the left.
But anyways, some peope are upset he brought on Lingard in the 87th minute but at the same time they don’t ever want to see Lingard on the pitch again ...

 

[Im red2]

We look a badly managed team

 

[90 + 5min]

We played ok. It is in final third that we are lacking quality. To slow breaking down defence. However pleased with clean sheet and as 80% of our games we are better team but lack finishing touch.
Does RedCafe turn into kindergarden every time we drop points?

 

[Random Task]

I honestly don’t get why he picks some of those players.
My lineup would of been

De Gea- no brainer at the moment

Dalot- offers much more going forward and with teams that can sit back like wolves did, would of had more variety going forward as a posed to AWB and his awkward step overs and dinks.

lindeov and magiure

shaw- thought he did well today managing traore, got forward well just lacked options when he did

jones and Fred- Fred is a no brainer on current form, breaks up play well and harasses opponent. Jones as a holding MF and nothing more, if he wins the ball, pass it to Fred or Bruno.

Bruno- as a Am/10 link up play from the back and finding those runs( or lack of atm) of players forward.

Martial- out on LW so he can do what he does best, cut in/ run at fullbacks. He is not a number 9, tonight proved that

Greenwood - cf, only available striker atm and a decent one at that considering he’s still young and lots to learn.

Chong- woulda player him on the right today, would link up well with Dalot and has more than one trick up his sleave (James only has pace and can’t cross) can cut in on his left leg, beat a man if needed.

Yeah, but no.

 

[Gehrman]

Despite this being an indisputable fact, so many of our fanbase either don't get it or refuse to accept it. After the summer window, we all knew this season would be difficult, inconsistent and frustrating. And yet when that happens, some of our fans embarrass themselves with toys out of the pram. Its very frustrating.

The "Manchester United' we knew was wasted away by Moyes, LVG and Mourinho. We aren't that club anymore, it has to be rebuild and that will take as long if not more time than it took SAF all those years ago.

OGS may not be the right man, but I can't see anyone else coming in and magically compete at the 90point level required to win this league right now.

You cannnot see anyone more qualified to manage Man Utd than Ole? Was that also your opinon when Mourinho was sacked?

 

[youmeletsfly]

Goodbye top4.

 

[Tomuś]

We played ok. It is in final third that we are lacking quality. To slow breaking down defence. However pleased with clean sheet and as 80% of our games we are better team but lack finishing touch.
Does RedCafe turn into kindergarden every time we drop points?

Exactly. All those clear-cut chances we served tonight only to be let down by poor finishing. Unlucky.

 

[Seij]

We are 38 points behind Liverpool. We have 35 points. Liverpool are more points in front of us than we have points.

Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys


....Hypnotism is not working. I really need whatever Ole and his staunch defenders are smoking to give me a break from this misery.

 

[sp_107]

I don't really know what people are expecting. They outright say how bad Pereira, Mata, Lingard & James are but then still blame Ole completely.

We've moved on a lot of players we needed out of the club. We have injuries to 3 of our best players. Only two others teams in the league would be able to cope with that to some degree, and we aren't there yet.

It wasn't good enough today but that is the reality of our position this season and Ole said it right from the start. Then we were hit with bad injuries too.

Once we have our best team playing then we can genuinely question what is happening but until then, no manager is getting anything much out of the team that played today. I would have rather had the Wolves front 3.

I'm excited to see something like the below in the final part of the season.

- - - - - - - - De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Williams
- - - - - - - - - - Fred
- - - - Pogba - - - - -McTominay
- - - - - - - - - -Bruno
- - - - - Martial - Rashford

Good team except dont want to see martial anywhere near to the team. Hope Mason can fill in OR Ighalo.

 

[Swearing Budgie]

I don't really know what people are expecting. They outright say how bad Pereira, Mata, Lingard & James are but then still blame Ole completely.

We've moved on a lot of players we needed out of the club. We have injuries to 3 of our best players. Only two others teams in the league would be able to cope with that to some degree, and we aren't there yet.

It wasn't good enough today but that is the reality of our position this season and Ole said it right from the start. Then we were hit with bad injuries too.

Once we have our best team playing then we can genuinely question what is happening but until then, no manager is getting anything much out of the team that played today. I would have rather had the Wolves front 3.

I'm excited to see something like the below in the final part of the season.

- - - - - - - - De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Williams
- - - - - - - - - - Fred
- - - - Pogba - - - - -McTominay
- - - - - - - - - -Bruno
- - - - - Martial - Rashford

Do you really think Pogba will play again this season? Guarantee he will twang his fartpipe in training or something equally mysterious.

 

[Amerifan]

We are 38 points behind Liverpool. We have 35 points. Liverpool are more points in front of us than we have points.

Who cares about Liverpool?

 

[sammsky1]

Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys
Youth, courage, success, progress, rebuild, passion, boys


....Hypnotism is not working. I really need whatever Ole and his staunch defenders are smoking to give me a break from this misery.

Why do you need fans who think differently to you have to change their mind? Its not as though that will get OGS sacked any sooner!

He's not going anywhere til at least the summer. Just accept it.