Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

[thejtrain]

Caf is completely divided.
How bad will things be when both sides are in agreement he needs binning?

This is what you get when you appoint an ex player/legend with zero credentials to manage a club like ours - one half wanting the best for the club even if it means you're firing them, and other half wanting them to succeed at any cost.

Aside from the bad things, I hope we have learned the lesson - keep these people as far away from the club as possible. They can be fans, and obviously have opinions, but a role, especially managerial/coaching ones? Feck them, no thanks, unless they are proven ones.

 

[Robbie Boy]

• Spurs hired former player Sherwood in December 2013, in May 2014 after a 50% win rate and a 6th place finish, he was sacked.
• Real hired former player Solari in October 2018 and sacked him March 2019 with a 69% win rate.
• Chelsea hired former player Di Matteo in March 2012 and after a CL win and a 57% win rate, he was sacked in November 2012.
• Liverpool re-hired former player Dalglish in January 2011 and sacked him in May 2012 with a 47% win rate.

 

[AshRK]

• Spurs hired former player Sherwood in December 2013, in May 2014 after a 50% win rate and a 6th place finish, he was sacked.
• Real hired former player Solari in October 2018 and sacked him March 2019 with a 69% win rate.
• Chelsea hired former player Di Matteo in March 2012 and after a CL win and a 57% win rate, he was sacked in November 2012.
• Liverpool re-hired former player Dalglish in January 2011 and sacked him in May 2012 with a 47% win rate.

Ole will also be gone at this rate at the end of the season.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Ole will also be gone at this rate at the end of the season.

All of the above had better, the same or marginally less % win rates than Ole - I'm being generous here even including his interim spell which combined is 50% - and no one had an issue with any of the above being sacked. In fact, Dalglish and Sherwood are seem as figures of ridicule from their spells at Liverpool (2nd spell) and Spurs, but funnily enough, both were sacked with a very similar win % to Ole. Shows how deluded and arrogant some Ole fans are.

 

[billybee99]

I'm pretty sure we will be playing football that is fun to watch, once everyone is fit again. If Ole can't get results playing nice football, then the bloke who takes over from him should have an excellent foundation to work from, and won't be saddled with players who either don't have the technical skills required to play for an attacking team, nor players who are only here for the cash and have no love for the club.

He's had 13 months to show us this "nice football" you keep talking about but we've yet to see it. We play horrible football; it's really hard to watch sometimes. It didn't look any different when Pogba was fit.

 

[Champagne Football]

He's had 13 months to show us this "nice football" you keep talking about but we've yet to see it. We play horrible football; it's really hard to watch sometimes. It didn't look any different when Pogba was fit.

There's been some big performances here and there where everyone starts thinking we might just be going in the right direction. I absolutely want Pochettino ASAP, but I haven't given up 100% on Ole yet.

 

[b82REZ]

There's been some big performances here and there where everyone starts thinking we might just be going in the right direction. I absolutely want Pochettino ASAP, but I haven't given up 100% on Ole yet.

I assume you mean the City/Spurs double header in December?

Cast your mind back, we didn't really play exciting football aside for 20 minutes in the first half against City. In both games we ended up with our backs to the wall defending the lead with our lives.

 

[Rado_N]

Ole will also be gone at this rate at the end of the season.

He needs to go now. It makes absolutely no sense to wait.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Dalglish second spell at Liverpool: P74 W35 D17 L22 Win % 47.3
Ole (combined interim and permanent): P68 W34 D15 L19 Win % 50.00

Now, these are pretty similar records and yet the unanimous view was that Dalglish was doing a bad job and had to go. His tactics were as horrid as the stuff Ole is playing now but he did manage to win a League Cup. Nevertheless, Liverpool realised he wasn't the required quality and went for a progressive, modern coach in Rodgers who may have had mixed fortunes, but offered plenty of exciting football. Again, he was sacked with a 50% win rate when Liverpool realised a much better manager in Klopp was ready and waiting. Unfortunately, it looks as though we are sticking with Ole for some bizarre reason because there are literally no footballing reasons for keeping him.

 

[AshRK]

He needs to go now. It makes absolutely no sense to wait.

You are expecting too much sense from the board. I don't think he is going anywhere till the end of the season. Might be not the most popular opinion but I wouldn't be even surprised if he stays beyond the summer only to be sacked in October-December and thereby wasting another season. This board knows feck all.

 

[AshRK]

Dalglish second spell at Liverpool: P74 W35 D17 L22 Win % 47.3
Ole (combined interim and permanent): P68 W34 D15 L19 Win % 50.00

Now, these are pretty similar records and yet the unanimous view was that Dalglish was doing a bad job and had to go. His tactics were as horrid as the stuff Ole is playing now but he did manage to win a League Cup. Nevertheless, Liverpool realised he wasn't the required quality and went for a progressive, modern coach in Rodgers who may have had mixed fortunes, but offered plenty of exciting football. Again, he was sacked with a 50% win rate when Liverpool realised a much better manager in Klopp was ready and waiting. Unfortunately, it looks as though we are sticking with Ole for some bizarre reason because there are literally no footballing reasons for keeping him.

I feel if the new manager were to appointed it should have been before the January transfer window. Having him come now(that's if he wants to come) would just add more pressure. Having said that if Poch is the manager we are looking to hire and he is ready to take over then just pull the trigger and hire him.

 

[Massive Spanner]

You are expecting too much sense from the board. I don't think he is going anywhere till the end of the season. Might be not the most popular opinion but I wouldn't be even surprised if he stays beyond the summer only to be sacked in October-December and thereby wasting another season. This board knows feck all.

All the board hear is our fans chanting Ole's name and booing them and Woodward's name. They hear the press saying they've done a terrible job investing in the last six years and Ole never gets a mention other than from ex Utd legends saying he needs more time and more transfers and more backing, and it's not his fault he's working with such an awful board and squad. if I was on the board, the absolute last thing I'd think about doing right now is sack Ole, because they likely think they'll get even more blame heaped upon them for doing so. We're stuck with him for a while yet.

 

[AshRK]

All the board hear is our fans chanting Ole's name and booing them and Woodward's name. They hear the press saying they've done a terrible job investing in the last six years and Ole never gets a mention other than from ex Utd legends saying he needs more time and more transfers and more backing, and it's not his fault he's working with such an awful board and squad. if I was on the board, the absolute last thing I'd think about doing right now is sack Ole, because they likely think they'll get even more blame heaped upon them for doing so. We're stuck with him for a while yet.

That's a fair point. Sack Ole and you bring all the attention towards towards themselves. It's a tricky situation for them. I seriously hope the fans keep on putting pressure on Woodward and co. so that we see some structural changes before the start of the next season.

 

[charlenefan]

Seems he is doing better than us right now with Spurs.

You'd have said that 3 days ago would you?

 

[Eplel]

Who should have started instead of him today? Lingard? Gomez? Geez

Gomes or even Garner. At least they might show some prospect, and Gomes, who is one of our best young players is disillusioned with the club because he's not getting time. They can't be worse than Pereira, not only he's wasteful, he's also a deadend player for us. He is thrash, he will not get better, he will never be quality.

 

[Masskh]

I would sack him tonight if here represents the majority of fans all around the world. If not god bless you and United States of America

 

[Wolfmother]

Gomes or even Garner. At least they might show some prospect, and Gomes, who is one of our best young players is disillusioned with the club because he's not getting time. They can't be worse than Pereira, not only he's wasteful, he's also a deadend player for us. He is thrash, he will not get better, he will never be quality.

Until Gomes or Chong sign a contract I would rather play Phil Jones on the wing. They have been given chances but didn’t take them, unlike Greenwood and Williams.
Some of them kids need to come back down to earth and step it up. You know when Juventus pull out of a deal for your wage demands there is some attitude adjustment needed and some perspective to your football career.

Edit: Just for your response Foxbat. WOOSH

 

[Foxbatt]

Until Gomes or Chong sign a contract I would rather play Phil Jones on the wing. They have been given chances but didn’t take them, unlike Greenwood and Williams.
Some of them kids need to come back down to earth and step it up. You know when Juventus pull out of a deal for your wage demands there is some attitude adjustment needed and some perspective to your football career.

Now I know that you have no clue about football or you a child or a WUM. Phil Jones will not last 20 mins on the wing and then we will have to substitute him.

 

[Greck]

Caf is completely divided.
How bad will things be when both sides are in agreement he needs binning?

How so? The 20% also want him replaced, just at the end of the season. I voted end of season and I know I don't want him in the dugout next season regardless how this one finishes

 

[RedBanker]

How so? The 20% also want him replaced, just at the end of the season. I voted end of season and I know I don't want him in the dugout next season regardless how this one finishes

It is somewhat divided. Just 52 percent want some actual change now. These are the people who understand that there is still a chance to salvage 4th because with a new manager, the bounce is bound to be there.
The 20 odd percent who want to see through this season are difficult to comprehend. Are they hoping for a miracle? Don't they want 4th place at any cost?
I would add the 20 percent to the remaining 28 percent.

 

[Greck]

It is somewhat divided. Just 52 percent want some actual change now. These are the people who understand that there is still a chance to salvage 4th because with a new manager, the bounce is bound to be there.
The 20 odd percent who want to see through this season are difficult to comprehend. Are they hoping for a miracle? Don't they want 4th place at any cost?
I would add the 20 percent to the remaining 28 percent.

No don't lump some of us with the 28%. The option clearly says 'replace at the end of the season'. The number one reason is the realism that we likely won't make top 4 regardless and asking an interim to achieve top 4 is too much. Most interim options aren't that good or they wouldn't be interims. I don't know, I just don't want another interim manager. 2nd reason is the pool of managers available at the end of the season will be greater by then. If we could get a guy like Poch tomorrow I'd want him sacked today

 

[RedBanker]

No don't lump some of us with the 28%. The option clearly says 'replace at the end of the season'. The number one reason is the realism that we likely won't make top 4 regardless and asking an interim to achieve top 4 is too much. Most interim options aren't that good or they wouldn't be interims. I don't know, I just don't want another interim manager. 2nd reason is the pool of managers available at the end of the season will be greater by then. If we could get a guy like Poch tomorrow I'd want him sacked today

You say realism but I would say pessimism. Why can't we still get fourth? The new manager bounce is a proven factor in this league, albeit very few, such as Conte, sustained it. All we need is a run of 5 or 6 victories. If we can move 0.6 point per game higher on an average than the 1.4 we are doing now, 4th is very much attainable. We need between 26 to 30 points from the remaining 39. It's tough but doable. Chelsea will drop points. We need to capitalise that's all.

 

[Bestietom]

You're saying that the quality of the manager doesn't make a difference. That's literally delusional. If we had Klopp suceed Fergie, I feel pretty confident we would be in a better place. So it's okay to let go deadwood players but not deadwood managers?

Mourinho and LvG were top managers but couldn't work with Woodward.
LvG won the FA cup and was sacked.
Mourinho won 2 trophies ( 3 if you count Charity Shield ) then got us 2nd in the League. Then he was sacked.
So we keep sacking managers and keep changing the team for every one of them. This is what we have turned to. It took Liverpool 30 years to get it right, and Klopp didn't do it overnight. I just wonder if he had been given that time here.

 

[Gehrman]

Mourinho and LvG were top managers but couldn't work with Woodward.
LvG won the FA cup and was sacked.
Mourinho won 2 trophies ( 3 if you count Charity Shield ) then got us 2nd in the League. Then he was sacked.
So we keep sacking managers and keep changing the team for every one of them. This is what we have turned to. It took Liverpool 30 years to get it right, and Klopp didn't do it overnight. I just wonder if he had been given that time here.

Yeah but do you remember the reasons they were sacked? It's not hard is it?

 

[Gehrman]

Mourinho and LvG were top managers but couldn't work with Woodward.
LvG won the FA cup and was sacked.
Mourinho won 2 trophies ( 3 if you count Charity Shield ) then got us 2nd in the League. Then he was sacked.
So we keep sacking managers and keep changing the team for every one of them. This is what we have turned to. It took Liverpool 30 years to get it right, and Klopp didn't do it overnight. I just wonder if he had been given that time here.

There is a reason why Saf when faced about the news of Klopp joining Liverpool said "Congratulations, they will win the league in 4 years".

LVG spend massive money on transfers and wages and had us playing terrible football. Wenger often got 4th and a fa cup and he was ridiqueled here despite spending very little. There was no sense of progress at all with LVG despite massive investment.

Mourinho got us 6th place in his first season and saved his job by winning the EL, which we won very poorly. Domestically results wise we did much better in his 2nd season but still played shit football and we again had outspent all teams that werent City or PSG.

In his 3rd season he imploded and was trying to get himself sacked. It's blatanty obvious why these managers were sacked. Klopp has delivered improvement upon improvement ever since he arrived at Liverpool, there is literally no reason why he would be sacked and he's a had much lower netspend than us as well and far less wages.

The idea that succes at United is impossible because of the Glazers is delusional, because one of the most if the most succesfull spell in our history came under the glazer ownership while we were managed by Fergie.

We've been sacking managers because we've been hiring the wrong ones. And Ole is another manager on that list. Bayern sacked their manager when they were top of the league, because they didn't like his style of football. Barcelona just sacked Valverde despite winning back to back La liga's while they were still top of the league, because Valverde failed to deliver a CL.

None of our managers since Fergie has been able to deliver consistenly the bare minimum which is Top 4 which is a very unambitious target for one of the biggest clubs in the world. Ole is breaking negative records left and right and has no past pedigree to manage United. He would have been sacked months ago by any other big club and fans here wouldn't be sentimental about him if he wasn't a ex-player legend.

 

[AttackAttackAttack]

Ole did a good job clearing out some dead wood and buying quality players but he is not the manager to move us forward. We should be already interviewing his replacement to see if their vision fits with the clubs vision and the majority of our current players(can’t rebuild year after year). We need a manager who’s vision is transferred onto the pitch for which we can make judgements against. No more speaking of the future without concrete evidence we are on the right path. Quality attacking football with a solid foundation at the back and the ability to change tactics on the fly.

 

[GBBQ]

You say realism but I would say pessimism. Why can't we still get fourth? The new manager bounce is a proven factor in this league, albeit very few, such as Conte, sustained it. All we need is a run of 5 or 6 victories. If we can move 0.6 point per game higher on an average than the 1.4 we are doing now, 4th is very much attainable. We need between 26 to 30 points from the remaining 39. It's tough but doable. Chelsea will drop points. We need to capitalise that's all.

The new manager bounce worked in Ole's favour as he essentially had a somewhat strong team who were unmotivated by Mourinho. Ole has now cleared out quite a few players and the 2 key players in the current squad (Pogba and Rashford) are currently injured. Its hard to know where that bounce would come from when we're relying on a misfiring Martial, two youngsters in Greenwood and James, and unknown quantity in Ighalo to score.

So do we risk a new manager coming in who cannot put his stamp on the team? We'd be on Poch's back by the end of the season if he continued ole's poor form.

My hope is that the new manager is lined up, is looking at targets and will be available to take over as soon as the season ends a la Mourinho's situation.

 

[Robbie Boy]

There is a reason why Saf when faced about the news of Klopp joining Liverpool said "Congratulations, they will win the league in 4 years".

LVG spend massive money on transfers and wages and had us playing terrible football. Wenger often got 4th and a fa cup and he was ridiqueled here despite spending very little. There was no sense of progress at all with LVG despite massive investment.

Mourinho got us 6th place in his first season and saved his job by winning the EL, which we won very poorly. Domestically results wise we did much better in his 2nd season but still played shit football and we again had outspent all teams that werent City or PSG.

In his 3rd season he imploded and was trying to get himself sacked. It's blatanty obvious why these managers were sacked. Klopp has delivered improvement upon improvement ever since he arrived at Liverpool, there is literally no reason why he would be sacked and he's a had much lower netspend than us as well and far less wages.

The idea that succes at United is impossible because of the Glazers is delusional, because one of the most if the most succesfull spell in our history came under the glazer ownership while we were managed by Fergie.

We've been sacking managers because we've been hiring the wrong ones. And Ole is another manager on that list. Bayern sacked their manager when they were top of the league, because they didn't like his style of football. Barcelona just sacked Valverde despite winning back to back La liga's while they were still top of the league, because Valverde failed to deliver a CL.

None of our managers since Fergie has been able to deliver consistenly the bare minimum which is Top 4 which is a very unambitious target for one of the biggest clubs in the world. Ole is breaking negative records left and right and has no past pedigree to manage United. He would have been sacked months ago by any other big club and fans here wouldn't be sentimental about him if he wasn't a ex-player legend.

Re the bolded part: People won't like this, too much truth in that statement and they want to believe that Ole is the oracle. Funnily enough, most will dismiss the previous three managers as not being good enough. The fact of the matter is that we have made four pretty poor appointments, to varying degrees.

• Would any top club have touched Moyes? Nope.
• Would any top club have touched LvG? Nope, most knew his best days were behind him and only Spurs wanted him.
• Would Mourinho have gotten a top club? Probably yes, and to be fair he's the one manager post Fergie who I really had faith in. Unfortunately he didn't keep his word about adapting his style of football and eventually went into sabotage mode.
• Would any top club have hired Ole? I mean come on.

Now let's compare to our rivals.

• Would any top club have appointed Pep? Obviously.
• Would any top club have appointed Klopp? Obviously.
• Would any top club have appointed Conte? Yes. It went to shit in the end but he got them a League Title and FA Cup in the process.

Now, there have been terrible appointments too like Emery. But in the span of four managers, we have consistently went for ones that aren't progressive, modern attacking coaches. I mean, like what the actual feck. Why are we overlooking managers who are going to play modern football and have us adapt modern methods? It really defies logic, to be honest. So yes, we have made four poor choices with Ole being the absolute worst.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

The 20 odd percent who want to see through this season are difficult to comprehend. Are they hoping for a miracle? Don't they want 4th place at any cost?

Two reasons.

One: We've now backed Ole with 214 million euros worth of talent (and a loan signing), and we've allowed him to get all the way to February, it feels daft not to give him 3.5 months to see if he can do anything with that backing.

Two: And most importantly, the new manager bounce is absolutely a thing as you say, but there are actually more cases in which no bounce happens at all. I personally would like a potential new manager to have an entire summer to work with the squad and get us ready to play "his football" when the season starts rather than trying to wing it mid-season.
The fan base will be quick to get on his back and the negativity in the club would go through the roof if we sack Ole mid-season and the new guy doesn't get instant results, I'd like him to start on a clean slate.
I also think potential new players like Sancho look at the club completely differently if we in the Summer employ someone like Poch or Nagelsman (just like how we managed to convince Pogba and Zlatan), rather than off the back of a crappy season.

 

[dove]

Mourinho and LvG were top managers but couldn't work with Woodward.

Disagree. LVG was not a top manager anymore, he was not a top manager for 20 years or so. Jose is clearly past his best and his methods doesn't work against well tactically drilled teams, which happens to be majority of PL teams.

So we keep sacking managers and keep changing the team for every one of them. This is what we have turned to. It took Liverpool 30 years to get it right, and Klopp didn't do it overnight. I just wonder if he had been given that time here.

I keep hearing this nonsense over and over again. Liverpool got it right because they hired a top manager, not because they stuck with some mediocre manager and he suddenly turned to great after 5 years or do you think they would be where they are now even if they stuck with Dalglish?

"So we keep sacking managers and keep changing the team for every one of them." is exactly what's wrong with the club. We hire managers who have a completely different style of football than their predecessors. It means squad is getting "rebuilt" every time we sack someone and it happens because we are badly run club without any vision whatsoever. That's not how it's supposed to work. We should target managers who have a similar style of football, similar ideas, philosophy so he won't need to buy his 25 players. This is 100% on our board to do so and they fail miserably at that. We went from 100 crosses per game with Moyes, to "if you lose the ball you are out of the team" LVG, to "park the bus and score somehow" Jose to "go out there and express yourselves lads" Ole. Complete disaster. Our biggest problem is not because of sacking managers, it's because of picking wrong managers.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Mourinho and LvG were top managers but couldn't work with Woodward.

LvG was granted pretty much everything his heart desired at United.

ADM because he name checked him as the type of winger he desperately needed ✓
Rojo, because the odd fecker just HAD to have a left footed centre back ✓
Depay because Dutch ✓
Blind because see above ✓
Romero because managed previously ✓
Completely past-it Schweinsteiger because see above ✓
Shaw - he loved Luke Shaw ✓
Crazy money on a kid Martial because he hated Chica & got rid of Nani because of his left footed CB wish and needed a forward desperately ✓

Schneiderlin & Herrera I'm willing to guess these were club scout purchases in fairness.

We also allowed him to completely high-tech revamp Carrington. fecker even had an issue with the trees.

What part of working with Woodward did he find tough @Bestietom ?

 

[el3mel]

It is somewhat divided. Just 52 percent want some actual change now. These are the people who understand that there is still a chance to salvage 4th because with a new manager, the bounce is bound to be there.
The 20 odd percent who want to see through this season are difficult to comprehend. Are they hoping for a miracle? Don't they want 4th place at any cost?
I would add the 20 percent to the remaining 28 percent.

This season is pointless for me. Ole had already destroyed the squad with rushing injured players, and now our 3 best players have long term injuries. Not really a good atmosphere for a new manager to come and work. Let him complete this pointless season while we prepare for a new manager to come fresh in summer.

 

[Roboc7]

Mourinho and LvG were top managers but couldn't work with Woodward.
LvG won the FA cup and was sacked.
Mourinho won 2 trophies ( 3 if you count Charity Shield ) then got us 2nd in the League. Then he was sacked.
So we keep sacking managers and keep changing the team for every one of them. This is what we have turned to. It took Liverpool 30 years to get it right, and Klopp didn't do it overnight. I just wonder if he had been given that time here.

Klopp has improved Liverpool every season and in all his full seasons they have finished in the top 4 so yes he absolutely would have got time here. None of the other top six sides would stick with Ole.

Comparisons between Ole and Klopp as a defence of Ole are baffling as any comparison actually only highlights how bad Ole is doing.

Moyes, LVG and Jose were all managers whose careers has peaked, all defensive but they were easily available and appealed to our inept board. All they have done now is employ someone who is way worse, just as negative and whose career has also peaked.

 

[RedBanker]

This season is pointless for me. Ole had already destroyed the squad with rushing injured players, and now our 3 best players have long term injuries. Not really a good atmosphere for a new manager to come and work. Let him complete this pointless season while we prepare for a new manager to come fresh in summer.

Not completely pointless i think. With OGS in charge we may end up without even EL or worse. Will bringing in players be easy without even the EL? Just see the slim points gap between us and say the 14 th place team. If we slide completely it could turn very very ugly.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

Staying with Ole is like having a couple bad experiences with girlfriends and then deciding screw it im not leaving this one, even though she is still a pretty trash gf. Need to get back out there and keep looking for the right one.

 

[el3mel]

Not completely pointless i think. With OGS in charge we may end up without even EL or worse. Will bringing in players be easy without even the EL? Just see the slim points gap between us and say the 14 th place team. If we slide completely it could turn very very ugly.

I don't think a new manager at this point will add much effect, even worse if the results stayed crap he might get the fans to slaughter him, instead of having a fresh start in summer with all players available and new incoming signings, however I can see where you're coming from.

 

[dove]

Not completely pointless i think. With OGS in charge we may end up without even EL or worse. Will bringing in players be easy without even the EL? Just see the slim points gap between us and say the 14 th place team. If we slide completely it could turn very very ugly.

To be fair I would rather we miss out on EL... I absolutely hate this competition. I think TOP 4 is difficult to achieve now as we left it too late as always, Ole should have been sacked in November. Bringing a caretaker manager in February is a bit weird timing now, and I am not even sure who we could get. So I would say, let Ole finish 10th as this season is dead anyway, sack him and hire someone else.

 

[romufc]

Now let's compare to our rivals.

• Would any top club have appointed Pep? Obviously.
• Would any top club have appointed Klopp? Obviously.
• Would any top club have appointed Conte? Yes. It went to shit in the end but he got them a League Title and FA Cup in the process.

Love how you put these just because they line up with your theory.

Would any top club have appointed Lampard? No.
Would any top club have hired Rodgers when Liverpool did? No.
Would any top club have hired Pelligrini? No.
Would any top club have hired Arteta? No.

Just because the rivals found their current manager to be the right one, doesnt meant they too havent been through bad managerial choices.

You are talking about clubs who have kept changing managers compared to one that doesnt know what to do when one is not successful.

 

[zenith]

What's become apparent in all this is that the average online fan or his opinion counts for nothing when the club has to make a decision regarding manager.

It's only when the match going fans turn on a manager or his style that the board gets cracking.

To that end, I can totally see ole continuing well into the next season because the on ground perception seems to be that he's building to something long term. In the little time that I did spend in Manchester, I never came across any kind of mass resentment against ole. On the contrary, most pub /match going fans seemed quite accommodating of his approach.

Our online warriors beat strap in because ole don't seem to be going anywhere, away from OT

 

[Dec9003]

Not completely pointless i think. With OGS in charge we may end up without even EL or worse. Will bringing in players be easy without even the EL? Just see the slim points gap between us and say the 14 th place team. If we slide completely it could turn very very ugly.

Whilst I do agree as someone else said if we don’t get Champions league next season we ‘could’ do without the EL.
I think that Leicester have benefitted massively this year from playing less matches than us, and given the little amount of quality we have a year out of it might not be the worst thing, Conte’s first season with Chelsea is another example.