Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract

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Foden may as well leave if they're going after Grealish. The departure of David Silva was supposed to lead the way to Foden getting regular game time as Pep said he trusted Foden to be the replacement, despite giving him feck all minutes. Post on Bluemoon:

Percent of league minutes since Pep told everyone that Foden was a normal member of the first team squad in preseason 2017.

Ederson 93.7
Raheem Sterling 80.3
Kyle Walker 79.1
Fernandinho 77.9
Kevin De Bruyne 66.4
David Silva 66.2
Bernardo Silva 62.1
Sergio Agüero 61.8
Nicolás Otamendi 59.4
İlkay Gündoğan 55.6
Leroy Sané 47.2
Aymeric Laporte 46.7
John Stones 43.4
Gabriel Jesus 42.8
Vincent Kompany 28.8
Riyad Mahrez 28.6
Oleksandr Zinchenko 27.7
Fabian Delph 27.1
Benjamin Mendy 24.0
Danilo 23.7
Rodri 18.6
João Cancelo 7.6
Phil Foden 7.0
Claudio Bravo 6.3
Eliaquim Mangala 5.4
Angeliño 4.6
Eric García 3.0
Yaya Touré 2.6
Brahim Díaz 0.6
Lukas Nmecha 0.2
Scott Carson 0.0

Foden has played only slightly more than Bravo since 2017. Bravo's only games in 3 years were half of the Liverpool 5-0 when Eddie got kicked in the face, 1 game at the end of the Centurions season when IIRC Ederson's wife gave birth, and 3 games Ederson missed because he was ill or suspended this season.

LB, CB and a winger to replace Sane should be their priority in the summer.
 

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The obvious Pogba replacement, I feel. Or part of the replacement, at least. We need another central midfielder, but Grealish is adaptable and able to fit in a range of positions. He’d certainly help our lack of creativity.
 

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If Pogba goes and we sign him, which one of him and Bruno plays the more advanced role?
If they play together I'd assume itd be:
Grealish -------- Fernandes
Mctominay/Fred​
But that those 4 would rotate most of the time anyway. Teams need depth and competition for places. Otherwise one injury to Bruno and we're back to starting Pereira....
 

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Looks exciting, but seems a bit attacking? I suppose Fernandes can drop back as well.
Oh for sure, wouldnt be used too often like that. My guess is it would be 1 of Matic or McTominay, and then 2 of Bruno, Grealish and Fred starting. Then if we have an injury to our front 3 (assuming we sign Sancho or someone of the like on the right wing), we move Grealish to left wing and shuffle around.
 

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His price tag is all relative. If we pay 80 million for him, then we just inflate pogbas price by 50 million, its as simple as that. By overpaying for Grealish, we are inflating our own market. As long as we buy Grealish before we sell Pogba then it doesnt matter what we pay for him, if you see what im saying.

We just say 'if Grealish is worth 80 million then Pogba must be worth 150 million' etc.
 

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I genuinely think Grealish could have Cantona-esque impact on your squad, the way he plays in a poor Villa team is exceptional, he drives team mates on has a great skill set and leadership qualities, he could really bring your squad to life.
I would love for Grealish to come into the squad but having a Cantona-esque impact is a huge expectation. Cantona had the ability to raise the game of everyone playing with him. I don't think Grealish has done that. He's a special player no doubt but to inspire your teammates to raise their game has not happened at Aston Villa.
 

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So is a Fred - Grealish - Bruno midfield possible? I've seen alot of people saying it can't work or it's too attacking and will easily be bypassed but weren't we playing with Pogba Mcctominay and Lingard in midfield at the beginning of the season?
 

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His price tag is all relative. If we pay 80 million for him, then we just inflate pogbas price by 50 million, its as simple as that. By overpaying for Grealish, we are inflating our own market. As long as we buy Grealish before we sell Pogba then it doesnt matter what we pay for him, if you see what im saying.

We just say 'if Grealish is worth 80 million then Pogba must be worth 150 million' etc.
Pogba has one year left on his contract, with United having the ability to extend his contract. Also, Pogba has played a handful of games this season. Essentially in the last 12 months, he has nothing to show to be worth 150m. If we can salvage 120 odd million, I think that would be a great deal. Lastly, I think Grealish is worth 60m max. He can't be worth more than Bruno whose a regular international and is a winner.
 

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So is a Fred - Grealish - Bruno midfield possible? I've seen alot of people saying it can't work or it's too attacking and will easily be bypassed but weren't we playing with Pogba Mcctominay and Lingard in midfield at the beginning of the season?
Fred kinda plays in a box-to-box. Fred, Grealish and Bruno would be great to fight it out for 2 positions in CM. We need a proper DM who can sit back and protect the defense or even a deep-lying playmaker. Kante would have been perfect for us who breaks up play and passes it on to the No. 8s in the team. Getting Jorginho has severely affected his style of play.

Other options would be are Partey & Ndidi. Unfortunately, Leicester are going to take us to the cleaners. So, therefore, I would get Partey in. Partey, Bruno & Grealish would be a magic midfield.
 

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Pogba has one year left on his contract, with United having the ability to extend his contract. Also, Pogba has played a handful of games this season. Essentially in the last 12 months, he has nothing to show to be worth 150m. If we can salvage 120 odd million, I think that would be a great deal. Lastly, I think Grealish is worth 60m max. He can't be worth more than Bruno whose a regular international and is a winner.
Nah Pogba has 2 years left. +1 option for the club.
 

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Does anyone think if United sign Grealish he could play as part of the front three dropping into midfield when needed to give a 4?
 

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---------Rashford------------Sancho-------------
--------------------Maddison-------------------------
------Grealish-----------------Fernandes--------
-------------------------Fred-----------------------------
---Williams----Maguire----Bailly----AWB---
-------------------------DdG-----------------------------

S: Henderson, Shaw, Dalot, Lindelof, McTominay, Greenwood, Ighalo/Dembele

Squad Players: Romero, Jones, Matic, James, Mejbri, Pereira, Ighalo/Dembele, Mata,

It could work. Whilst theres no stand out enforcer apart from maybe Fred, all 4 in the midfield are fairly industrious and will put a shift in. Theres a bit of a lack of wingers and our fullbacks aren't the best at providing width and crosses, but i feel that is something that could be worked on on the coaching side. Maddison maybe as a false 9 with the front two pulling wide and runs in from Fernandes and Grealish?

The bench options suddenly look better and allow you to switch that formation into anything from a 3412 to a straight 442 as well.
Unfortunately, Fred is not disciplined enough to play as a DM. He likes to break up play and move forward. We need someone to sit in front of the defense.

Maddison will easily cost 85m.... He's a good player no doubt but he won't improve our team all that much as paying 85m.
 

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Does anyone think if United sign Grealish he could play as part of the front three dropping into midfield when needed to give a 4?
I think he'll occupy the Liverpool Coutinho role. It makes sense to use Bruno and Grealish as No.8s and have a proper DM behind them. The front three should be Rashford, ST, RW. Martial can't be relied upon to lead the line game after game. He blows hot and cold. He's a player off the bench.
 

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Grealish plays AM CM and LW. In those roles we have Bruno - AM, Fred - CM and Rashford - LW. We're certainly not going to spend money on Grealish to be a squad player so which of these players should he bench? Bruno our 55m signing? Fred our best and most consistent midfielder and if not our best player this season? Or Rashford the fan favoirite and our goalscorer? These players occupy the positions Grealish can play so which of them should he bench?
 

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If we can get Grealish and Sancho this summer we will be a very exciting team to watch next year.
 

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Grealish plays AM CM and LW. In those roles we have Bruno - AM, Fred - CM and Rashford - LW. We're certainly not going to spend money on Grealish to be a squad player so which of these players should he bench? Bruno our 55m signing? Fred our best and most consistent midfielder and if not our best player this season? Or Rashford the fan favoirite and our goalscorer? These players occupy the positions Grealish can play so which of them should he bench?
Fred. Not bench though - positional tweak to the holder behind Bruno and Grealish. So ‘benching’ Matic or McTominay, or replacing the departing Pogba.
 

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Grealish plays AM CM and LW. In those roles we have Bruno - AM, Fred - CM and Rashford - LW. We're certainly not going to spend money on Grealish to be a squad player so which of these players should he bench? Bruno our 55m signing? Fred our best and most consistent midfielder and if not our best player this season? Or Rashford the fan favoirite and our goalscorer? These players occupy the positions Grealish can play so which of them should he bench?
I think we need a DM to make this work.

Bruno and Grealish would play as 8s with a DM behind them
Or Bruno at 8 and Grealish at 10, with a DM behind them
 

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Obvious no? Fred behind Bruno and Grealish. 4-3-3
I've seen a lot of comments saying this midfield will be destroyed or its too attacking.. I don't know how balanced it is but I know that Ole opted for a midfield of Lingard Mcctominay and Pogba beginning of the season
 

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So is a Fred - Grealish - Bruno midfield possible? I've seen alot of people saying it can't work or it's too attacking and will easily be bypassed but weren't we playing with Pogba Mcctominay and Lingard in midfield at the beginning of the season?
I think against 3/4 of our opponents that would be fine. Tighten up with a more stable defensive midfielder for select away games / better teams.

I guess the question is do we bring in a Party type to cover that role, knowing they won't be playing 100% of the time, or stick with Matic and hope McTom can grow into that role.

For me the latter is more realistic, and a worthwhile tradeoff to have a Bruno / Grealish midfield.
 

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Grealish plays AM CM and LW. In those roles we have Bruno - AM, Fred - CM and Rashford - LW. We're certainly not going to spend money on Grealish to be a squad player so which of these players should he bench? Bruno our 55m signing? Fred our best and most consistent midfielder and if not our best player this season? Or Rashford the fan favoirite and our goalscorer? These players occupy the positions Grealish can play so which of them should he bench?
I agree with this, a ball playing DM to be one of the '2' with Fred along with Bruno in the advanced role would give us a lot more balance than Grealish would. We lack someone who can use the ball from deep areas and defend space between midfield and defence.

I think a player like this should be the priority, and along with a quality right winger, attacking left back, and a striker we would complete our 11 and be a more balanced team in all phases of play. If after all these signings we still have money to bring him in fine, but I don't think he should be a priority now Bruno is here and Fred has established himself.
 

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Against lesser teams we would go with Grealish and Bruno as two number ”8” and one of Fred/McTominay as the holding player.

Against better teams one of Bruno/Grealish would start on the bench and both Fred and McTominay would play.

We need to have depth and a chance of different variations to our midfield and why are some of you guys acting like it’s unheard of having one player of real quality on the bench. It’s not a new thing and our options at the moment are players like Lingard, Pereira and Chong.
 

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A great player but signing him makes the Bruno transfer very underwhelming IMO. They both occupy the most forward role in a midfield three, playing them anywhere else doesnt really work against top teams.
 

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City have played with two attacking-minded midfielders for years, hardly held them back.

It would necessitate us to learning how to play with the football though, so that's gonna be a problem.
 

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City have played with two attacking-minded midfielders for years, hardly held them back.

It would necessitate us to learning how to play with the football though, so that's gonna be a problem.
Yes. It's also our biggest weakness - possession football. It's the area where Ole has shown very very little as a coach. Our quality as a front foot team that controls and dominates football match has been poor for a good while.
 

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City have played with two attacking-minded midfielders for years, hardly held them back.

It would necessitate us to learning how to play with the football though, so that's gonna be a problem.
City have Pep who is a mastermind of possession football and setting up the midfield, I'm not so sure Ole could pull it off.
 

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Grealish plays AM CM and LW. In those roles we have Bruno - AM, Fred - CM and Rashford - LW. We're certainly not going to spend money on Grealish to be a squad player so which of these players should he bench? Bruno our 55m signing? Fred our best and most consistent midfielder and if not our best player this season? Or Rashford the fan favoirite and our goalscorer? These players occupy the positions Grealish can play so which of them should he bench?
We can play all three in 4-2-3-1 formation, with Grealish LW, Bruno in AM and Sancho at RW, Rashford and Martial can take the lone strikers spot or Rashord can share LW with Grealish at the same time Grealish can also share spot with Bruno in AM, we can mix match based on the opponents.Coming to CM Fred along with the new CM/DM can play in that two man MF, McTominay can be good back up CM.Our attacking options are thin so adding good players when available makes us stronger and playing time each would get would be least of my worry atm.
 

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Pogba has one year left on his contract, with United having the ability to extend his contract. Also, Pogba has played a handful of games this season. Essentially in the last 12 months, he has nothing to show to be worth 150m. If we can salvage 120 odd million, I think that would be a great deal. Lastly, I think Grealish is worth 60m max. He can't be worth more than Bruno whose a regular international and is a winner.
Grealish is a winner, won promotion from Championship last season, and he pulled that team through at times. Absolutely bonkers to say he isnt a winner, he has had far less opportunity.
 

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A great player but signing him makes the Bruno transfer very underwhelming IMO. They both occupy the most forward role in a midfield three, playing them anywhere else doesnt really work against top teams.
They can both play deeper. Grealish can play out left or we could change the midfield to a diamond shape.

Matic (McTominay or new signing)
Fred Grealish
Bruno
 

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They can both play deeper. Grealish can play out left or we could change the midfield to a diamond shape.

Matic (McTominay or new signing)
Fred Grealish
Bruno
So we play them in their non primary roles?
 

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If Martial can play that Lone Striker role, 100% Grealish can.

The ball stick to him like glue.
 

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So we play them in their non primary roles?
Matic and Bruno (could also play deeper) are obviously playing their primary roles. Grealish plays LW for Villa so playing on the left in a diamond isn't an issue at all.

The width on the right would be the issue though as Fred is very much a central player.
 
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