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Even he goes now I am sure he will be remembered as someone who cleared the deck and laid good foundations by bringing in right players.
Absolutely.

I genuinely believe that is the primary purpose of his appointment, and have done since before the season kicked off. Job done in that regard.
 

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Not going to work myself up again until another month. This team has had many false promises this season, I thought we’d turned the corner in December after a few good performances and look what happened.
 

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Not going to work myself up again until another month. This team has had many false promises this season, I thought we’d turned the corner in December after a few good performances and look what happened.
We lost Rashford after that, didn't we? I think there's that too. We are coping but we need to have fewer injuries.
 

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Winning a few games when you play well is is great. Of course it is.
Winning a lot of games even when you play badly is much better. That's what happens when your infrastructure works.
it's important not to get the two confused.
 

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I'd still take Poch next year, but credit to Ole for turning things around. My perception of him as a manager has changed and I hope he can keep it going. We kept LVG when Klopp was available because we finished top 4, let's not make that mistake twice.
 

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You only have to see the goal celebrations (and we've been getting plenty of those recently) to see what OGS is doing at United. I'm happy with that. When he said what he enjoyed most about the City win was the player's connection with the fans, how can you not support the guy? Just imagine where we'd be if we didn't have a crocked Sanchez, Pogba and Rashford.

I'm more than happy for the board to fully back him in the summer. It would be crazy to replace him now.
 

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You only have to see the goal celebrations (and we've been getting plenty of those recently) to see what OGS is doing at United. I'm happy with that. When he said what he enjoyed most about the City win was the player's connection with the fans, how can you not support the guy? Just imagine where we'd be if we didn't have a crocked Sanchez, Pogba and Rashford.

I'm more than happy for the board to fully back him in the summer. It would be crazy to replace him now.
Agree, apart from the Sanchez part. He's finished (injured or not).. Greenwood and James woulda missed out this season if we still had the dog walker..
 

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Agree, apart from the Sanchez part. He's finished (injured or not).. Greenwood and James woulda missed out this season if we still had the dog walker..

Yeah I agree he's finished. I'm just saying that imagine if we got the Sanchez we all thought we were buying. We would have been challenging for sure.
 

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Yeah I agree he's finished. I'm just saying that imagine if we got the Sanchez we all thought we were buying. We would have been challenging for sure.
Everything happens for a reason I suppose, he woulda hampered the development of Martial even more than he already did, and Rashford and other youngsters that I mentioned in the last post. No regrets since the Jan window, good riddance to Sanchez and Lukaku.
 

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If we are going to back our manager with huge sums of cash, I rather we give that amount of money to managers who have proven to have done well with limited resources and have a more progressive philosophy.
That was partly the reason Moyes got the gig in the first place. So you'd be happy if United appointed David Wilder then?
 

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Everything happens for a reason I suppose, he woulda hampered the development of Martial even more than he already did, and Rashford and other youngsters that I mentioned in the last post. No regrets since the Jan window, good riddance to Sanchez and Lukaku.
Not gonna argue with any of that.
 

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Yeah, I’m a bit cautious still, but I’m enjoying it at the moment and here’s hoping for some more improvement and a nice long run of good results. Who wouldn’t want Ole to succeed at United? It’d be the best possible outcome for the club, the fans etc. :drool:
 

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Let's not get carried away, the team is unbeaten in 10, which where we should be anyway, the results and performances have improved, this needs to carry on a lot longer to get the full support off everyone, I've said before the period from January to the end of season is oles most important one of his management, if he gets CL and and gets to at least a final, he's done a very good job.
The rebuild will get better in summer if CL spot is achieved! But who knows how the rest of the season will pan out, it could all be cancelled through the Virus?.. but oles on the up just keep it going.
 

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Alot of good things had happened in the past few months or so but that doesn't erase the horrible start of season + the rookie mistakes made in the summer. If Ole makes it to the CL then he should stay. If not, then, well, no
 

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No, I want him to succeed. And by his capabilities, succeeding would be getting into the champions league. Then this summer, replace him with either Pochettino or Nagelsman. The problem with Ole is that his brand of football is reactive and similar to Mourinho where there is a big emphasis on counter attacking football. That is not the philosophy I want at United. I want philosophy that is progressive and have us playing good football.


If Ole stays another season, he will need to have an Amazing squad to accomplish anything significant. Which means, more outspending of our rivals. He is not like Klopp, Nagelsman or Pochettino who don’t needs to spends millions just to have a functioning team. Sir Alex was the same, where he doesn’t need to spend crazy amounts to have functioning team. Under Sir Alex, we were not near the top in spending. However, it is different with our current managers. These are the type of managers that will take us to the next level. Not managers who needs crazy amount of money just to have a functioning team. That is where the similarity with Di Matteo lies as he will eventually be found out/has been found out if he doesn’t improve his managerial capabilities.

If we are going to back our manager with huge sums of cash, I rather we give that amount of money to managers who have proven to have done well with limited resources and have a more progressive philosophy.
Like any in-coming manager (including Sir Alex), Ole inherited previous manager's squad. He's got rid of some of the deadwood and invested in an expensive CD & RB and a budget winger.

Because of the weakened team he has inherited, he had to play his team more defensively and attack NOT like Mourinho but like Sir Alex with the whole of the midfield and attack, increasing the number of bodies in the 18 yard area and improving our chances of getting goals from a variety of players. Football under Mourinho was the worst I've ever seen at United bar none.

Ole is no Klopp, Nagelsman or Pochettino but he might become one - he's a young manager. So far this season, he's outsmarted probably the world's best manager several time (Pep).

Sir Alex always bought 2 or 3 players in the summer. He bought only a few but he bought quality to add to the quality he already had at the club to add to the "Fergie's Flegdlings" {? spelling).

Finally, You cannot sack a manager who get's us into the Champions League. If the club wanted to get rid of him they would have done it last season and replaced him with Pochettino. They didn't because Ole earned the right to become manager and even if he doesn't get us into the CL but plays the style of football he has the team playing, he deserves the right to stay.
 

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Progressive philosophy is the key part. I m looking more at the likes of Klopp, Nagrlsman, Pochettino, Tuchel, and Marco Rose, as these managers have progressive philosophy.
I don't see anything wrong with Wilder's philosophy who has done pretty well with what he has. I just don't get the obsession with Pochettino. If you're purely talking about progressive philosophy, you could not find any more clearer than Solskjaer's so what makes you think the others you mentioned would be any more successful? Anyway, the bottom line is Solskjaer ain't going anywhere for now so this is all speculation.
 

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I'm so happy but also reserved of course(you never know). But I hope this is the turning point. Just enjoying the moment now and I'm glad for Ole. He's such a decent bloke. He deserves more respect and right now more time.
 

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Like any in-coming manager (including Sir Alex), Ole inherited previous manager's squad. He's got rid of some of the deadwood and invested in an expensive CD & RB and a budget winger.

Because of the weakened team he has inherited, he had to play his team more defensively and attack NOT like Mourinho but like Sir Alex with the whole of the midfield and attack, increasing the number of bodies in the 18 yard area and improving our chances of getting goals from a variety of players. Football under Mourinho was the worst I've ever seen at United bar none.

Ole is no Klopp, Nagelsman or Pochettino but he might become one - he's a young manager. So far this season, he's outsmarted probably the world's best manager several time (Pep).

Sir Alex always bought 2 or 3 players in the summer. He bought only a few but he bought quality to add to the quality he already had at the club to add to the "Fergie's Flegdlings" {? spelling).

Finally, You cannot sack a manager who get's us into the Champions League. If the club wanted to get rid of him they would have done it last season and replaced him with Pochettino. They didn't because Ole earned the right to become manager and even if he doesn't get us into the CL but plays the style of football he has the team playing, he deserves the right to stay.
Didn’t we do that with Van Gaal? I m sure many other clubs outside of United has done that. Regardless, getting into champions league shouldnt be a merit of success for a club as big as ours. This is how far we have fallen.
 

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Didn’t we do that with Van Gaal? I m sure many other clubs outside of United has done that. Regardless, getting into champions league shouldnt be a merit of success for a club as big as ours. This is how far we have fallen.
Seriously are you even a United fan? You are our Johnno White.
 

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Didn’t we do that with Van Gaal? I m sure many other clubs outside of United has done that. Regardless, getting into champions league shouldnt be a merit of success for a club as big as ours. This is how far we have fallen.
So what’s a successful season this season then if finishing top 4 and some cup runs isnt? Winning the league with 100 points?

United have fallen and we’re trying to get back to the top. That didn’t happen on Ole’s watch. Good job you’re not a Nottingham Forest, Blackburn or Leeds fan mate, you’d be demanding Biesla wins the PL in his first season as a measure of success :lol:
 

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Absolutely. Still don;t believe there are people who wouldn't give him a chance to continue where he began
The Ole outs cannot be taken seriously anymore Mate. Because the majority of us know thats nonsense.

The improvement we’ve seen with Ole takes Me back to Fergie era. Let this man building something, i think we can make something special.
 

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The Ole outs cannot be taken seriously anymore Mate. Because the majority of us know thats nonsense.

The improvement we’ve seen with Ole takes Me back to Fergie era. Let this man building something, i think we can make something special.
Fergie was lucky. He had a few years of breathing room.
Ole has a much tougher job in the sense of having to work in dog years.
 

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We can win the big games against the best and we can win the easy games, don't know what else you can ask for. I suppose we can do better against the medium teams.
 

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Not going to work myself up again until another month. This team has had many false promises this season, I thought we’d turned the corner in December after a few good performances and look what happened.
We didn't have a midfield. We do now. How many times does this have to be pointed out???