Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

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If you break it down into chunks it’s easier to see that finishing the season is the worst option there is.

1. will games resume in April? Extremely unlikely. It’s going to be a number of months as a minimum where you can’t play football.

2. if it goes past 30 June, players contracts expire. This again, is where you need to look past Liverpool. League 1 and league 2 teams can’t afford to offer players 3-5 year contracts, and routinely will have 10-12 players out of contract at the end of the season, along with 4-5 loan players. It’s completely impractical for them to play the remainder of the matches in July, August and beyond.

3. You therefore have to have a transfer window, and this will need to apply to all clubs.

4. if you restarted the league in July/ August. Utd. Could have signed Kane, Sancho etc. Makes a mockery of the competition. Multiply that by every club.

5. You would then need another transfer window between seasons. Look at a team like Aston Villa for example, they will male vastly different transfer decisions based on whether they get relegated or stay up. You can’t just roll one season into the next.

6. players need a break. A proper break, self isolation is not a break.

7. of therefore the season can’t be finished by the end of June (or if you could finish it in July, you cajole get round some of these issues), then it needs to finish. It won’t restart, it will be abandoned.

8. you then have a transfer window, hopefully with a proposed start date dependent on the virus for the start of the new season.

9. the CL and Europa league will be scrapped next season. Pre qualifying was proposed to start in August which clearly won’t happen. You wouldn’t be able to work out who qualifies in any case. Would spurs and arsenal qualify because of their league standing in 19/20! That would be a joke.

10. 20/21 will likely start later on any case so no champions league or Europe league games will ease the fixture congestion. Much better than scrapping domestic cup competitions. Football is much more than the top clubs.

11. Upshot is. 19/20 will be abandoned. No winners, no promotion, no relegation. 20/21 starts with the same teams in each league as 19/20 at some point later this calendar year and no european competition on 20/21. Will resume the season after.
I agree with 1-8, but there is no way that we will have a season without some form of European club competition. There's far too much money rolled up in it across the continent, and into the pockets of clubs and UEFA, while it keeps TV operations that hold broadcast rights viable. We might see a reprise of this season's competition (we won't have a conclusion to it this year), or qualification by invitation or based on UEFA rankings (i.e. no qualifying rounds) but if there is football in 20-21 I'm sure there will be a CL in some form.
 

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Strangely optimistic about football coming back soonish for some reason.
How soonish? I'd say it's a near certainty that we will not be seeing any action for the entirety of April/June/July. The virus is only just getting started and games are off, so it seems bizarre to think it will be resuming at the times the virus is anticipated to peak.
 

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Will there be less support of top-level football? Will recession hit football? Watching elite football is an expensive hobby. We talk about inequality, but what about the huge growing inequality between fans & players? I do not understand why top-level football deserves so much respect and why do they take fans for granted.
 

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That would really disappoint my parents. They have such high hopes for me. My dad always used to say “Son, I was a newbie for all my life but I just know you’ll become a full member. I just hope I live long enough to see it “

I won’t let you down, dad.
 

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We'll just be reaching the peak number of infections in mid/late June and the entire country will be in complete lockdown, so there definitely won't be any football taking place.

Best case scenario for football starting up again, is probably September.
Yeah that's probably a good shout if they do decide to continue with it. I was just thinking of June because that wouldn't interfere too much with next season . Obviously it would be played behind closed doors, but even that would be an ineffectual measure if the players and staff are still infected with it. So perhaps June could be too early. We'll see. I'm still convinced it will resume though.
 

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How soonish? I'd say it's a near certainty that we will not be seeing any action for the entirety of April/June/July. The virus is only just getting started and games are off, so it seems bizarre to think it will be resuming at the times the virus is anticipated to peak.
I have no way of knowing of course. But the vibe I get is that this football thing is too important and too many lives and jobs depend on it to cancel everything for the foreseeable future. The DFL (German Football League) hold a meeting with representatives of all its 36 clubs today and the CEO didn't rule out continuing with matchday 28 on 3 April.
 

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So mason mount who was meant to be self isolating decided to go to a football centre in north london. Chelsea had to tell him to get back inside.
 

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I am sorry, but its so self centered of them, at this point in time, during a pandemic to be even discussing about the title to be given to them. We have as much gripe about this season as them lot, seeing as we are favs to win the EL and probably second favs to the FA cup. Yet, when everything could be cancelled, its only them they care about. Always the victims.
 

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Almost a row on sky sports news. Not sure of their names but one guy was making the point about how you cant give liverpool the title without pissing of sheff utd and aston villa especially because they are a game less.

If sheff utd win it they are 5th and in the cl with city's ban. If av win they are out of the relegation zone.
 

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So mason mount who was meant to be self isolating decided to go to a football centre in north london. Chelsea had to tell him to get back inside.
:lol: I'm back in college with people his age and I can tell you, they can be fecking stupid.

Not that older people are necessarily any wiser!
 

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Almost a row on sky sports news. Not sure of their names but one guy was making the point about how you cant give liverpool the title without pissing of sheff utd and aston villa especially because they are a game less.

If sheff utd win it they are 5th and in the cl with city's ban. If av win they are out of the relegation zone.
This is the crux of it. While Liverpool are miles clear and odds on to win, nothing else is settled in the Premier league, or other divisions.
Meaning there's absolutely no way we can go with positions as they stand.

City keep their league cup, as that competition finished, but what would be really interesting, is if Liverpool had got enough points to win the league already. Would the rules say they'd still be voided if we couldn't finish the season, or not?

As it stands, it's obviously a void job if we can't finish, but what if they'd got enough points mathematically? You couldn't have champs but void the rest, but they would argue they had actually won it.
 

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French horse racing suspended but still not in the UK which I find baffling tbh.
Think UK racing is going to be behind closed doors to keep the betting industry going, basically. I suppose these horses are bred to race as well, so they want to race them. There will be money reasons behind it.
 

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How soonish? I'd say it's a near certainty that we will not be seeing any action for the entirety of April/June/July. The virus is only just getting started and games are off, so it seems bizarre to think it will be resuming at the times the virus is anticipated to peak.
Not necessarily - life is back to normal in China With almost no new People getting infected.
 

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Think UK racing is going to be behind closed doors to keep the betting industry going, basically. I suppose these horses are bred to race as well, so they want to race them. There will be money reasons behind it.
And that doesn’t apply to everything else called off?
 

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So there are 3 options :

1. Null and void the season. No winners, no CL spots, no relegation. Reset to what it was to the beginning of the season. We lose out on CL, but Liverpool also dont win the title.

2. Finish the season as soon as possible. Probably behind closed doors. We might get CL, but Liverpool win PL.

3. Do something in middle like playoffs. I think this brings a lot of complications and is a legal minefield. Not likely.

I think the best option for us is 1. Chances are there is going to be no Champions League next season. This corona thing is a marathon not a sprint. And chances of finishing the season seems slim.

And Liverpool with all their talk of greatest team of all time, get knocked out of all competitions, AND dont even win the league? Amazing.

Null and void. Thats the best solution now.
Or finish this season in september-october- november. Play the remainder of C.L and Nations League in february and march , followed by the Euros in may-june - and cancel the season 20/21
 

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So, the solution from Liverpool fans is to, finish the season, however late it may be, cancel the domestic competition, cancel the European league, cancel the Euros, delay the next season, and hence the whole of calendar. Just to finish the current season? And they have the temerity to think they are not self-centered? :lol:
 

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Almost a row on sky sports news. Not sure of their names but one guy was making the point about how you cant give liverpool the title without pissing of sheff utd and aston villa especially because they are a game less.

If sheff utd win it they are 5th and in the cl with city's ban. If av win they are out of the relegation zone.
I really hope that if they are not able to finish the season that we get to play our game in hand somehow, just to prevent the ‘what ifs’. Win or lose at least we won’t be left wondering
 

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You said it yourself, voiding the season would be the easiest solution to the problem. I think we could all use a little 'easy' given the circumstances, no?

Just void this season, let the players go home where they can take care of themselves and their families without the worry of if/when the season starts up again, then return for pre-season training should the threat of the virus be fully contained. If not, well, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Ah, what a kind, caring, considerate person you are. I'm quite sure if the shoe was on the other foot & United were in our position then you'd all still feel exactly the same, not like us selfish, self-indulgent, nasty Scousers.
 

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You think completely changing the face of our football by ditching a domestic cup and altering the complexion of European competitions is “the right thing to do” and you are suggestions it’s other people who have an agenda? :lol:
So are you saying you don't have an agenda then ? Yeah OK. You & most of the other United fans are caught up in a f**cking big echo chamber where you've convinced yourself, & others, that voiding the season is the right thing to do, when it's actually not. You'd have a totally different opinion if you were sitting top of the table 25 points clear & you well know it.
 

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Aye, plenty of options to work around should there be a shortened football season next year. Scrapping group stages, league cups and exploring potentials for splits (eg Championship-L2 sides playing 34 instead of 46 league games) are all workable and fair alternatives.
There's plenty of options available without the need to simply pull the plug on this season. It's ridiculous to think that they'd even consider voiding it after playing over three-quarters of the season. There's not only the financial implications to consider by not completing the season but also the threat of legal action by clubs who've done well in their respective leagues up until now. It ain't gonna happen no matter how much the agenda driven mob want it to.
 

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This whole shortening of next season to complete the current one doesn't sit right with me.

Why is this season more of a priority than the following one or any others thereafter?
What a ridiculous question. It's more important because some teams have done much better than others & deserve the opportunity to see the season out. That's only fair isn't it ?
 

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Of course it does, but the betting industry is massive, so this is probably a way of placating them. It's wrong.
Looking on Skybet, they're desperate.

Usually they'd be advertising a big English or European game to have a bet on. Now they're advertising Tambov vs Krylia Sovetov Samara.
 

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The issue with this is that, if the season is null and void, it has to be null and void for all. You cannot say it doesn't count for 19 of the 20 clubs but that Liverpool are crowned champions.

I think, even if it means there is no 20/21 season they have to complete the fixtures in order for the season to be rendered valid.
That's a strong possibility I'd say. The virus is expected to return next winter, so we could find ourselves in exactly the same position. We need to brace ourselves for the fact that sporting events are going to be very rare over the next 12 months or so.
 

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The season won't be cancelled. If anything, the next season will be delayed or cup competitions scrapped.
 

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So are you saying you don't have an agenda then ? Yeah OK. You & most of the other United fans are caught up in a f**cking big echo chamber where you've convinced yourself, & others, that voiding the season is the right thing to do, when it's actually not. You'd have a totally different opinion if you were sitting top of the table 25 points clear & you well know it.
I actually couldn’t give a shit either way.

My presence in this thread is simply to wind Dippers up and you’ve all taken the bait.

We are close to a UK-wide lockdown thanks to a global pandemic, believe me, I couldn’t give a shit whether you lot are awarded the league or not.

It has been most entertaining seeing your mob get their knickers in a twist – Dalglish being my particular favourite.
 
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You see the true colours of everyone associated with Liverpool.

the country is about to go into lockdown, lots of people will die - and all Liverpool ex-players and fans are concerned about is how they cannot try to skew and shoehorn the situation so that they can win the league by any means necessary. Even if that means screaming over most other clubs in the football league and/ or putting peoples heath at risk.

What a bunch of utter scum buckets - but then we knew that anyway!
 

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Italy can ask and you can try to pursued us it's in our interests for "a chance at CL football", really you're grasping desperately for the title as it's slipping away.

There are rules, the new league starts on 1 July, there is no football allowed between 1st and 20th June. The league may likely not finish. I'll go further, there is six weeks to start games again or it's over. The probability of the happening is low. There is no rule in place to award anything if the league is suspended and didn't complete.
There are no rules in place that covers a worldwide virus stopping football being played after 3/4 of the season has been completed. This is where the men in suits start to earn their big salaries.
 

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You see the true colours of everyone associated with Liverpool.

the country is about to go into lockdown, lots of people will die - and all Liverpool ex-players and fans are concerned about is how they cannot try to skew and shoehorn the situation so that they can win the league by any means necessary. Even if that means screaming over most other clubs in the football league and/ or putting peoples heath at risk.

What a bunch of utter scum buckets - but then we knew that anyway!
They're a disgusting club.
 

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You see the true colours of everyone associated with Liverpool.

the country is about to go into lockdown, lots of people will die - and all Liverpool ex-players and fans are concerned about is how they cannot try to skew and shoehorn the situation so that they can win the league by any means necessary. Even if that means screaming over most other clubs in the football league and/ or putting peoples heath at risk.

What a bunch of utter scum buckets - but then we knew that anyway!
GTF with your double-standards & hypocrisy. I've never seen so many laughter emoticons used in threads relating to people dying. Most coming from your fans I have to say.