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It’s an unpopular opinion but the PFA are right.

Joe Lewis is the reason that Spurs have actively sought to release their non-playing staff. Likewise, Mike Ashley at Newcastle.

An organised agreement in which players are responsible paying the salaries of non-playing members of staff is a huge no-no. This would apply to any union in any industry.

If a club can’t continue to retain non-playing staff and pay its players, then of course there should be a club-dependent agreement in place, just like at Leeds. But it shouldn’t be a demand placed upon all clubs; they’re all so different.
 

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I think the PL & clubs might regret crossing the government & feeling in this country. The government could make it very difficult for PL if they tried playing football in near future, & could put hazards in their way, knowing the public was behind them.
 
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I think the PL & clubs might regret crossing the government & feeling in this country. The government could make it very difficult for PL if they tried playing football in near future, & could put hazards in their way, knowing the public was behind them.
I agree. The PL is all about greed. Footballers appropriate anywhere between 60-100% of all revenue a club receives - have some bloody perspective you greedy cnuts.

any footballer who is at a club and had not taken a pay cut whilst any non-playing staff have been forced to do so should be utterly ashamed of themselves and/ or the club they are at.

I’m getting to the point where I wouldn’t be bothered if joe public started turning their back on football and this pyramid scheme came crashing down.
 

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Players don't really need to do it but It wouldn't hurt any of them in slightest if they up their wages for a week, at some clubs what's all it would take to cover the wages for the backroom staff for a couple of month.

If you have got the financial power, it just feels like the right thing to do at times like this.
 

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It's a frivolous distraction in a thread devoted to Jadon Sancho. Not one discussing why obscenely rich football clubs and their players are pleading poverty at a time when all of society has a part to play in a global crisis.
Well when you put it like that .. Still distractions, however frivolous, will likely keep many people sane through this.

Back on point I like to think Gary Lineker is right, in that alot of the players/clubs will do something to help, they have just been caught on the hop, been poorly advised, and tbf the true scale of this has really only become apparent in a relativity short space of time. I'm sure not all footballers and people who run the clubs are all heartless bast*rds, so I fully expect many to step up the plate in the next week or so.
 

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I agree. The PL is all about greed. Footballers appropriate anywhere between 60-100% of all revenue a club receives - have some bloody perspective you greedy cnuts.

any footballer who is at a club and had not taken a pay cut whilst any non-playing staff have been forced to do so should be utterly ashamed of themselves and/ or the club they are at.

I’m getting to the point where I wouldn’t be bothered if joe public started turning their back on football and this pyramid scheme came crashing down.
Last few weeks have put things into perspective and am pretty certain by the time this shit is over football will be way down on list of priorities for most people.
 

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It’s an unpopular opinion but the PFA are right.

Joe Lewis is the reason that Spurs have actively sought to release their non-playing staff. Likewise, Mike Ashley at Newcastle.

An organised agreement in which players are responsible paying the salaries of non-playing members of staff is a huge no-no
. This would apply to any union in any industry.

If a club can’t continue to retain non-playing staff and pay its players, then of course there should be a club-dependent agreement in place, just like at Leeds. But it shouldn’t be a demand placed upon all clubs; they’re all so different.
Absolutely this. It's just one of those things, threads like this just highlight how easy to manipulate average person is, that they struggle to see exactly what's happening here.

They're being played like a fiddle to get them riled up against the big bad footballers, who aren't giving up their millions for the sake of their billionaire owners. Just the way they get manipulated into believing that it's the fault of the immigrants/people on benefits/disabled for the state of the NHS, rather than tax breaks/loopholes that they're letting their immensely rich friends abuse.

This is the same Premier League and the same Premier League clubs, that up until a few weeks ago were perfectly happy for games to go ahead when all common sense was suggesting that we needed to ban mass gatherings. It took a high profile manager getting the illness for them to put a stop to the thing. The clubs don't give a shit about the fans nor do they give a shit about their employees - and that includes the players.
 
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I wonder how much his suit cost? Stones and glass houses and all that.

I agree that no club should be putting their staff on furlough, Spurs and Newcastle should be embarrassed by their actions.

Equally why should footballers be pressured into giving up their right to what they're owed when this government has been bending over backwards for years to their upper class mates - allowing tax loopholes where seemingly only the rich can take part in etc.
 

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Absolutely this. It's just one of those things, threads like this just highlight how easy to manipulate average person is, that they struggle to see exactly what's happening here.

They're being played like a fiddle to get them riled up against the big bad footballers, who aren't giving up their millions for the sake of their billionaire owners. Just the way they get manipulated into believing that it's the fault of the immigrants/people on benefits/disabled for the state of the NHS, rather than tax breaks/loopholes that they're letting their immensely rich friends abuse.

This is the same Premier League and the same Premier League clubs, that up until a few weeks ago were perfectly happy for games to go ahead when all common sense was suggesting that we needed to ban mass gatherings. It took a high profile manager getting the illness for them to put a stop to the thing. The clubs don't give a shit about the fans nor do they give a shit about their employees - and that includes the players.
Yup, and it's aggravating to watch people fall for it.

Even the club in question, Spurs, has been (comparatively) underpaying it's stars for a while now, stars who have carried the club to places they have no right being. And it's such bosses that people will try and vilify players for? Makes no sense.

I do maintain that if the players come to an agreement within themselves, then that would be great, fantastic even. But none of this public pressuring and vilifying nonsense.
 

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It’s an unpopular opinion but the PFA are right.

Joe Lewis is the reason that Spurs have actively sought to release their non-playing staff. Likewise, Mike Ashley at Newcastle.

An organised agreement in which players are responsible paying the salaries of non-playing members of staff is a huge no-no. This would apply to any union in any industry.

If a club can’t continue to retain non-playing staff and pay its players, then of course there should be a club-dependent agreement in place, just like at Leeds. But it shouldn’t be a demand placed upon all clubs; they’re all so different.
Tend to agree.

I don't think it's as simple as just slashing the pay of celebrity footballers. You have to look at the whole pie and the ramifications of diverting money in such a simple way. Ultimately I can't see any way that footballers are not going to have to take a large financial hit regardless of the public outrage.

Should the wealthiest in society (including rich business owners, politicians with multiple incomes and footballers) feel a duty to pick up the slack in these trying times? Yes that seems reasonable. But as always it's the ugly celeb footballer that has become the target, whilst the often even wealthier and more disgustingly opulent owners and shareholders have avoided most of the criticism.
 

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If the NHS are going to struggle, why don't we just employ all those out of work in hospitals?


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Tend to agree.

I don't think it's as simple as just slashing the pay of celebrity footballers. You have to look at the whole pie and the ramifications of diverting money in such a simple way. Ultimately I can't see any way that footballers are not going to have to take a large financial hit regardless of the public outrage.

Should the wealthiest in society (including rich business owners, politicians with multiple incomes and footballers) feel a duty to pick up the slack in these trying times? Yes that seems reasonable. But as always it's the ugly celeb footballer that has become the target, whilst the often even wealthier and more disgustingly opulent owners and shareholders have avoided most of the criticism.
it’s not even looking at it in the aggregate. Someone like Harry Kane should be squirming with embarrassment that the marketing guy, or the tea lady are only able to earn 80% of what they usually do, whilst the first team footballers are banking their usual pay packet.

there are lots of owners who are taking stick, Richard Branson for one - furthermore Levy’s compensation package has been quoted on the stories.

he could take a £1m less next year and all of his staff could get paid 100% of their expected wage.
 

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it’s not even looking at it in the aggregate. Someone like Harry Kane should be squirming with embarrassment that the marketing guy, or the tea lady are only able to earn 80% of what they usually do, whilst the first team footballers are banking their usual pay packet.

there are lots of owners who are taking stick, Richard Branson for one - furthermore Levy’s compensation package has been quoted on the stories.

he could take a £1m less next year and all of his staff could get paid 100% of their expected wage.
I agree.

And he should be using his clout at that club to ask Joe Lewis (whose net worth is £4.6bn) and Daniel Levy why on earth they have made that decision and, if it were me, questioning whether he wants to continue to work for such an organisation that treats its staff so poorly. That is, I think, the course of action most people on this forum would take if they were in a similar position at work and your boss was proposing not to pay staff on the pay band below you in full; I can't think anyone is sticking their hand in to their own pocket to support their own bosses greed.

Footballer's, rich though they are, are an utter distraction and should not be expected to bail out their substantially richer bosses because they're tight fisted cnut. It is, obviously, a different story when the entire financial stability of the club depends on players taking pay cuts, but that is simply not the case here or at Newcastle. The villains are Joe Lewis, Daniel Levy, and Mike Ashley.

I mean feck me, I know it's a football forum but the simple fact here is that somehow you're all managing to vilify footballers (who are no doubt well off) for not taking pay cuts whilst cnuts like Jeff Bezos can ask the public to donate sick days to his workers rather than spend any of his ludicrous wealth, and cnuts like Johan Lundgren can pay themselves millions in dividend payments and then in the same week ask for the government to bailout their airline, and cnuts like Richard Branson can get his begging bowl out in the same week he asks staff to take 8 weeks unpaid leave with there being hardly a word said.

Please, please, be righteously angry about the rich taking the fecking piss during this crisis. But there's far bigger fish to fry on this topic than sodding footballers. If we're going to eat the rich, and by god should we, then let's start with the fattest feckers first.
 

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Bullshit.

Why have other clubs done it? Barca, Italian clubs and German clubs all taken pay cuts. You don’t need the PFA to tell you to wipe your ass. Eddie Howe and Potter didn’t wait for LMA to decide. They took the pay cut.
 

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That is why we need a drastic change in football saleries and prices. We need to take them down to some kind of normal level. A player earning 100000 a week can easly live with 25000 so my suggestion for all goverments is to take 50-75% of every player and that football introduce som kind of system of maximum / minimum wage. In future. It wouldnt hurt making tax little higher, both for clubs and players.
That way, we could use money for other things in countries.
 

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There's a share of blame going round for everyone but it seems a bit cnutish that a bunch of multi millionaire footballers aren't taking paycuts to help even slightly. They live in a world of their own it's just not a good look.
This is the problem with top level football, and society in general for that matter. Everyone is up for a spot of tokenism, like people doing a fecking applause for the NHS staff, like that will make the blindest bit of difference. Footballers are the same with their PR stunts at this time. Just put your money where your mouth is. If not, shut the feck up and we do not want to hear from you until this is all over.

Can anyone confirm what United’s position on this matter is?
 

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Gary Neville is dead to me... again. :nervous:
Neville is talking shit on the football side. Again. But he is talking sense on the political side. Again.The government has been poor overall in all of this. Neville should switch forms because his analysis of current events is way better than the beautiful game.
 

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Thats just stupid frankly. So apparently these roughly 500 EPL players are at fault and should take a 50-75% pay cut in future for the good of the country? Why are they so special that they deserve this villification. How about the rest of the people that earn more? A footballer's life span is short, he might get a good 5 year contract but it could go to shiet quickly.
That is why we need a drastic change in football saleries and prices. We need to take them down to some kind of normal level. A player earning 100000 a week can easly live with 25000 so my suggestion for all goverments is to take 50-75% of every player and that football introduce som kind of system of maximum / minimum wage. In future. It wouldnt hurt making tax little higher, both for clubs and players.
That way, we could use money for other things in countries.
 
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Yup, and it's aggravating to watch people fall for it.

Even the club in question, Spurs, has been (comparatively) underpaying it's stars for a while now, stars who have carried the club to places they have no right being. And it's such bosses that people will try and vilify players for? Makes no sense.

I do maintain that if the players come to an agreement within themselves, then that would be great, fantastic even. But none of this public pressuring and vilifying nonsense.
It would be great if the players come to an agreement to donate some of their cash in addition to the clubs paying everyone what's owed. That'll have the most positive impact, but the players shouldn't give up a penny just to let rich owners off.

I have to say though, the Glazers generally don't make a massive tit of themselves in situations like these unlike Spurs & Newcastle. They've generally come out looking pretty well - and that was the case even a few weeks ago when they refunded the expenses of the travelling fans for the Linz game.
 

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Glad to see that parasite Lineker get hammered on forums everywhere for his support of millionaire footballers.

Football needs to be very careful in all this. The economic aftermath for UK & world is devastating, & greedy footballers & Premier League with contempt for its fans, is hardly going to be popular. Government could make it very tough for them, with public overwhelming in support.
 

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I'm stunned there are people actually defending multi millionaire footballers in this scenario. There is literally no excuse for them not taking pay cuts whilst their clubs are furloughing lower paid staff who are only receiving 80% of their salary. These footballers earn millions because of fans, fans who are now suffering in all veins of life. It's typical of the Premier League that it has taken media attention and now government action for them to actually do anything. Anyone associated to Premier League football taking advantage of Job Retention Scheme should be ashamed of themselves and I deary hope this is well remembered by fans before they turn up week in week out.
 

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Absolutely this. It's just one of those things, threads like this just highlight how easy to manipulate average person is, that they struggle to see exactly what's happening here.

They're being played like a fiddle to get them riled up against the big bad footballers, who aren't giving up their millions for the sake of their billionaire owners. Just the way they get manipulated into believing that it's the fault of the immigrants/people on benefits/disabled for the state of the NHS, rather than tax breaks/loopholes that they're letting their immensely rich friends abuse.

This is the same Premier League and the same Premier League clubs, that up until a few weeks ago were perfectly happy for games to go ahead when all common sense was suggesting that we needed to ban mass gatherings. It took a high profile manager getting the illness for them to put a stop to the thing. The clubs don't give a shit about the fans nor do they give a shit about their employees - and that includes the players.
Of course owners are to blame as well but you have to consider most of their wealth is based on assets. They won't have £4 billion in the bank. In addition to this clubs are not receiving a lot of revenue at the moment so some clubs could have very severe cash flow issue if the players don't take a pay cut. Most clubs wage bills are 50-70% of their overall revenue. It's not a simple case of blaming the owners or blaming the players. Both are at fault.
 

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I'm stunned there are people actually defending multi millionaire footballers in this scenario. There is literally no excuse for them not taking pay cuts whilst their clubs are furloughing lower paid staff who are only receiving 80% of their salary. These footballers earn millions because of fans, fans who are now suffering in all veins of life. It's typical of the Premier League that it has taken media attention and now government action for them to actually do anything. Anyone associated to Premier League football taking advantage of Job Retention Scheme should be ashamed of themselves and I deary hope this is well remembered by fans before they turn up week in week out.
The clubs are furloughing players because the likes of Ashley and Lewis don't want to dig into their own deeper pockets and the clubs want to save their own cash. That's the reason it's happening.

I genuinely don't know whether to be frustrated or just plain pity you, that you don't have the processing power to grasp this.
 

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Of course owners are to blame as well but you have to consider most of their wealth is based on assets. They won't have £4 billion in the bank. In addition to this clubs are not receiving a lot of revenue at the moment so some clubs could have very severe cash flow issue if the players don't take a pay cut. Most clubs wage bills are 50-70% of their overall revenue. It's not a simple case of blaming the owners or blaming the players. Both are at fault.
Then just defer the players payments/restructure contracts like the PFA have offered to alleviate the cash flow issues. Then make up for it by selling your assets or cut down on future expenditure.
 

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I agree. The PL is all about greed. Footballers appropriate anywhere between 60-100% of all revenue a club receives - have some bloody perspective you greedy cnuts.

any footballer who is at a club and had not taken a pay cut whilst any non-playing staff have been forced to do so should be utterly ashamed of themselves and/ or the club they are at.

I’m getting to the point where I wouldn’t be bothered if joe public started turning their back on football and this pyramid scheme came crashing down.
ive been at this point for a while now.
 

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The clubs are furloughing players because the likes of Ashley and Lewis don't want to dig into their own deeper pockets and the clubs want to save their own cash. That's the reason it's happening.

I genuinely don't know whether to be frustrated or just plain pity you, that you don't have the processing power to grasp this.
How condescending. Owners will take the hit by the reductions of their asset value and it's not like clubs are generating cash or profits during this time, of which billionaires earn the majority of their money. It's not like they aren't being affected in anyway. I said previously clubs are legally entitled to furlough staff under the government scheme, and in fairness that was poor on the government not to caveat the scheme in some form - they still have a chance to do this. But it does not take away the moral obligations on Premier League footballers to take significant pay cuts during this time.

In some cases there will be footballers earning 1000 times more than the lower paid staff at the club. It is simply not right the lower paid staff are receiving 80% of their salary, paid by the us, the tax payer, whilst players still receive 100%.
 

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I'm stunned there are people actually defending multi millionaire footballers in this scenario. There is literally no excuse for them not taking pay cuts whilst their clubs are furloughing lower paid staff who are only receiving 80% of their salary. These footballers earn millions because of fans, fans who are now suffering in all veins of life. It's typical of the Premier League that it has taken media attention and now government action for them to actually do anything. Anyone associated to Premier League football taking advantage of Job Retention Scheme should be ashamed of themselves and I deary hope this is well remembered by fans before they turn up week in week out.
What...why? The aim of the scheme is to keep people employed. Why would any business not take advantage of it?
 

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How condescending. Owners will take the hit by the reductions of their asset value and it's not like clubs are generating cash or profits during this time, of which billionaires earn the majority of their money. It's not like they aren't being affected in anyway. I said previously clubs are legally entitled to furlough staff under the government scheme, and in fairness that was poor on the government not to caveat the scheme in some form - they still have a chance to do this. But it does not take away the moral obligations on Premier League footballers to take significant pay cuts during this time.

In some cases there will be footballers earning 1000 times more than the lower paid staff at the club. It is simply not right the lower paid staff are receiving 80% of their salary, paid by the us, the tax payer, whilst players still receive 100%.
Completely gutted for them. I guess we all just need to learn to put ourselves in the shoes of a billionaire every once in a while.

Like I said, if cash flow is an issue they can defer payments/restructure contracts. If I'm struggling with cash, the banks not writing 3 months off my mortgage. They're asking us to take mortgage holidays where we still owe the same amount, and interest is rolled over on top of it. The players are willing to do the same by deferring payments - and giving clubs 0% interest loans. I do have more sympathy for the smaller clubs but Spurs, Newcastle and their owners can go feck themselves.
 
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If the NHS are going to struggle, why don't we just employ all those out of work in hospitals?


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Levy is no fool, I suspect he is doing it to pressure the players into accepting taking a pay cut.
 

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I'm stunned there are people actually defending multi millionaire footballers in this scenario.
Owners will take the hit by the reductions of their asset value and it's not like clubs are generating cash or profits during this time, of which billionaires earn the majority of their money. It's not like they aren't being affected in anyway. I said previously clubs are legally entitled to furlough staff under the government scheme, and in fairness that was poor on the government not to caveat the scheme in some form - they still have a chance to do this. But it does not take away the moral obligations on Premier League footballers to take significant pay cuts during this time.

In some cases there will be footballers earning 1000 times more than the lower paid staff at the club. It is simply not right the lower paid staff are receiving 80% of their salary, paid by the us, the tax payer, whilst players still receive 100%.
It looks like you want us all to come out and condemn the players, while you bend over backwards defending the lack of action by billionaire owners.

That sounds totally fecked to me
 

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I think people are getting quite angry without taking a few things into account really:

-The furlough scheme isn't for the likes of PL clubs.....Why exactly? People seem to have been slightly caught up in the 'size' and 'wealth' of top level clubs. But comparatively, they're not that rich. For example, even using the example of Man Utd, an absolute financial powerhouse, almost unrivalled across the world. Turnover was about £600 million last year.

TK maxx? £3 billion. Sports direct? £2 billion. Primark? £8 billion. Virgin Atlantic? 2.8 billion. Relatively niche choclate chain hotel chocolat? £130 million. Pret? £770 million. Costa? 1.2 billion. Wasabi? £100 million. etc etc.

-You'll say those companies may not know when they're next going to make money. This is exactly the same for football clubs. Where does income come from? Prize money, matchdays, TV, sponsors and merchandise. Nobody is being paid prize money until football starts again. We don't know when that will be. Even if football starts up soon, it likely won't be with any crowds. There have been some reports that SKy and BT may want their money back if the season doesn't end. Who knows if sponsors will go under? I guess people may still buy merchandise though not exactly the best time for it. The reality is many clubs are very poorly run, living from season to season essentially and will really struggle with a prolonged period off.

-As for the players themselves (or why owners haven't forced them into a paycut), my understanding is the players and their union are resisting this and want to come to a negotiated agreement that applies to them all and which may protect the lower league clubs as well.


I think as usual things are a little more complex than the pitchfork kneejerk response we often tend to have. And some people seem to think things will go back to normal after. I think unless we restart sooner rather than later, many clubs will come out of this in severe financial difficulty.
 
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That is why we need a drastic change in football saleries and prices. We need to take them down to some kind of normal level. A player earning 100000 a week can easly live with 25000 so my suggestion for all goverments is to take 50-75% of every player and that football introduce som kind of system of maximum / minimum wage. In future. It wouldnt hurt making tax little higher, both for clubs and players.
That way, we could use money for other things in countries.
I'll be honest, I don't understand this. Footballers earn the money they do because billions of people watch and consume it around the world. I'd rather they get the money for the entertainment they provide than it go to the owners or sit in banks somewhere.

And I also say this as a doctor. Unless we're moving to a completely communist system some time soon, of course a footballer should earn more than I do. My job is far more replaceable, far more people worldwide can do it at the same level as me, than can do a top level footballer's job. And yes, I may in theory provide a more discernible impact on society...but do I really in the grand scheme of things?

I wouldn't venture a guess as to how many patients I'll treat over my career but I imagine the joy, the escape that top level footballers provide touches many more lives than I or almost any HCP will.

Also, when people say that the government or fans won't forget how football clubs acted during this. Really? What exactly are they going to do? Stop following the teams they've been following their whole lives? I doubt it.
 

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I'll be honest, I don't understand this. Footballers earn the money they do because billions of people watch and consume it around the world. I'd rather they get the money for the entertainment they provide than it go to the owners or sit in banks somewhere.
They've all been conned and manipulated into thinking like that. The likes of Ashley, Kroenke, Glazers and co would like nothing more than a salary cap so that they can take the biggest slice of football's cake. They already do when the clubs asset value doubles and trebles as the TV income increase, but that's not enough for them. You just need to look at American sports.

These fools think that capping salaries will put more money back in the consumers pockets. They should figure out if their clubs gave them discounts on season tickets when the PL TV income almost doubled overnight.
 

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I think people are getting quite angry without taking a few things into account really:

-The furlough scheme isn't for the likes of PL clubs.....Why exactly? People seem to have been slightly caught up in the 'size' and 'wealth' of top level clubs. But comparatively, they're not that rich. For example, even using the example of Man Utd, an absolute financial powerhouse, almost unrivalled across the world. Turnover was about £600 million last year.

TK maxx? £3 billion. Sports direct? £2 billion. Primark? £8 billion. Virgin Atlantic? 2.8 billion. Relatively niche choclate chain hotel chocolat? £130 million. Pret? £770 million. Costa? 1.2 billion. Wasabi? £100 million. etc etc.

-You'll say those companies may not know when they're next going to make money. This is exactly the same for football clubs. Where does income come from? Prize money, matchdays, TV, sponsors and merchandise. Nobody is being paid prize money until football starts again. We don't know when that will be. Even if football starts up soon, it likely won't be with any crowds. There have been some reports that SKy and BT may want their money back if the season doesn't end. Who knows if sponsors will go under? I guess people may still buy merchandise though not exactly the best time for it. The reality is many clubs are very poorly run, living from season to season essentially and will really struggle with a prolonged period off.

-As for the players themselves (or why owners haven't forced them into a paycut), my understanding is the players and their union are resisting this and want to come to a negotiated agreement that applies to them all and which may protect the lower league clubs as well.


I think as usual things are a little more complex than the pitchfork kneejerk response we often tend to have. And some people seem to think things will go back to normal after. I think unless we restart sooner rather than later, many clubs will come out of this in severe financial difficulty.
Great post.


Has anyone yet made the point that for every £100,000 a footballer takes in a pay cut the government loses £60,800 in tax/NIC revenue?
 

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It’s just typical Government deflection. Setting up footballers as the bad guys while streams of billionaires escape any kind of attention. Politicians aren’t short of a few quid, have they taken pay cuts?
 
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It’s just typical Government deflection. Setting up footballers as the bad guys while streams of billionaires escape any kind of attention. Politicians aren’t short of a few quid, have they taken pay cuts?
politicians earn around £80k per year, if they are in the cabinet it’s more - I’d say anyone in government is more than earning their salary.