Top 6 Record
Manager | Games | GF | GA | GD | Clean Sheets | Win Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ole | 20 | 26 | 19 | 7 | 7 | 50.0% |
Van Gaal | 23 | 28 | 23 | 5 | 8 | 43.5% |
Mourinho | 29 | 30 | 39 | -9 | 7 | 34.5% |
Moyes | 11 | 7 | 18 | -11 | 4 | 18.2% |
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Not after promotion mate just stating a opinion that you've basically agreed on about defence. Like us all I hope he can get it right because if we do we'll be challenging
I'll be the happiest man alive to go on and eat my words.. However, the way things stand he needs to improve his defensive tactics at the back. You can argue today it was two indivual errors but seen on several occasions this year no plan B when it's going wrong at the back.Yeah, that Ole, he's shocking against the big teams... Not like he's *checks notes* beaten City and Chelsea, three times as well as Spurs
EDIT - And on the defence, you don't have the 3rd best defensive record if you don't have any nous.
I look forward to Ole continuing to make you eat your words
Back on a postive note it's great to see the excitement coming back into out game, not felt it for two years now so well overdue. Here's hoping in 12 months or so I'm eating my words.
He'll have us win the league and challenge for the CL before next three seasons has past. Or not. He's good enough, wouldn't bet against him
People starting to believe? 16 Unbeaten.
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Wait, Moyes won 2 matches? I know that we defeated Arsenal 1-0 at home, but what is the other match we won? I thought that Liverpool and City did the double against us, Chelsea defeated us at SB and got a boring draw at OT, I thnk that Everton defeated us in both matches, and Spurs defeated us in a match. Did we defeat them in the other match? Or we defeated Arsenal away (I don't remember it)?Top 6 Record
Games GF GA GD Clean Sheets Win Rate 20 26 19 7 7 50.0% 23 28 23 5 8 43.5% 29 30 39 -9 7 34.5% 11 7 18 -11 4 18.2%
He's gotten so much right in the second half of the season, it's almost impossible to believe he was the same manager starting Jesse Lingard and Andreas even when he had other better options on the bench.
I'd say it's a sign of a good manager to adapt and adapt he has.
The players available to a manager will obviously always be the most important part of the job, so getiing in the likes of Bruno has obviously been monumental but so has taking big decisions like fecking off Lingard, starting to prefer Matic over McTominay and Andreas, plus giving many many more of Dan James' minutes to Greenwood. All of these decisions, not Bruno alone are the reason for our night and day second of the season scenario.
Delighted.
It's quiet in this thread these days from those with the most replies. Good to see.
Stop looking at the points. That's my suggestion. Because mentally we're not even the same team as the one that started the season let alone some of the personal.
This.
All of it (well..other than preferring Matic over McT, it was also over Fred, he was poor in the first half of the season and only got games once McT is out injured. Won a starting place then onwards with his best performances.)
Saved me from typing.
Beat Liverpool in the EFL Cup 1:0 on 25.09.2013.
Ah, now I remember. More glory to the chosen one.
Liverpool in the League Cup if I remember correctly
Fantastic turnaround. I really thought he was done for but he has proven me wrong. Well done Ole.
We are beating most top teams : )
Ole > Klopp
It’s actually VERY impressive!
I don't understand what point you are trying to make here. We beat more top6 teams than anyone else. The time to eat your words is now, because we've already played them, with great success. It's also a bit of a strange time to complain about the defense when we've allowed 6 goals the last 16 games. It's not exactly leaking at the back, and that Bailly situation doesn't exactly happen every day. The defense has been solid.
With a memory like that I'm tempted to ask you where I left my car keys in December 2014
He had a better run in terms of teams faced when he started as care taker and look where it ended. So spare me for now and I would rather make a call end of the season.
FYI- long term progress is not based on his best players available but rather implanting his own foot prints as a system, which he failed miserably when his key players were out. The idea "get me all the best players and I will show my style but if anyone is out , I can't get the same result against much inferior teams" is BS.
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We've seen lot of new manager often have good run at the beginning, nothing new. This is 3rd times I have said it, the teams he faced weren't just the lesser teams but the top teams like City & Chelsea. So what's your problem now?
And system will only work if you have the right players not deadwood he was left by the previous managers. When Klopp took in charge in his early years, Liverpool was known to be inconsistent as well. Even Pep was struggling before he decided to spend big on full backs. We got our result against City, Chelsea, Spurs & Leicester and even drew to Liverpool when his key players were out, rather than see the direction & the system he is trying to plant, your delusional & ego make you difficult to see it.
You are the one who is delusional here. Someone who is knee jerking to give full credit without even looking at the stats or facts. Whether you say this 3 or 5 or 500 it doesn't matter - the fact is we have had multiple false dawns and we had beaten bigger teams than Chelsea or City. So for the nth time, pardon me if I make a call end of the season on this.
And you are wrong on the Klopp side. His first match had them running 116km - a visible increase of how they have been performing until that point. Their backline has Sakho, Moreno and fecking Caulker in the first season. Were they inconsistent ?- ofcourse but he didn't take 18 months to settle things down. By the end of first season, the system was in place and he just had to bring the right players. So this excuse of needing the right players to make the system work is a BS. He shouldn't be needing Bruno or Pogba to win against Astana or Derby after one year.
You let the result to blind you, that’s why you are delusional. When clearly, it’s not about result alone. The philosophy he’s trying to build for the club including the system & playing style he’s trying to implemented for the team. You failed to see the deep that shows the bigger picture because you only view the surface that only show little thing.
So now you’re making excuses they had Sakho, Moreno & Caulker? According to your agenda Ole should be able to work his way out with average players like Lingard & Pereira but somehow the agenda doesn’t suit if the manager’s name is Klopp.
He didn’t need Bruno & Pogba to beat City, Chelsea & Spurs after one year. So what BS excuse you will come out next?
I swear his nickname - baby faced assassin is spot on even as a coach. Nobody rates him and it's partially because of how he acts and looks all nice. Even now that we are winning there's very little credit given to him. It's all Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood etc. People don't think he's dangerous or someone you should worry about but this man is responsible for making us dangerous again.
There's been alot of improvements I've seen since the time he got here and my keeping him was always based on whether progress was made since he got here. I wanted him gone because as at ending of last year we looked stagnant and like we hadn't progressed at all from last season especially after spending 130m. But ever since Bruno came it's like everything clicked. He has made some mistakes but I'm inclined to say that if we don't make top 4 it's because we failed to get Bruno earlier. We've been looking for the Van Dijk effect in Maguire but it's actually Bruno that has given us that
There's been alot of improvements I've seen since the time he got here and my keeping him was always based on whether progress was made since he got here. I wanted him gone because as at ending of last year we looked stagnant and like we hadn't progressed at all from last season especially after spending 130m. But ever since Bruno came it's like everything clicked. He has made some mistakes but I'm inclined to say that if we don't make top 4 it's because we failed to get Bruno earlier. We've been looking for the Van Dijk effect in Maguire but it's actually Bruno that has given us that
What I'm absolutely loving about this team is that like great united teams from previous era, the team is capable of many different styles of football.
We were already very good at counter attack, now with the bruno and pogba partnership we are equally good at breaking down these so called 'low block' teams. We are also capable of giving any team a proper physical battle with the likes of matic, Mctominay, Maguire, AWB and shaw. Also we have plenty of pace to burn.
Tactically we have different ways of playing that are not just limited to a rigid 4-2-3-1 and the team really fights for each other when we go a goal down. I now have faith that we will bounce back in any game.
A lot of credit for this goes to ole and the bond that he has managed to develop with the players.
We were already very good at counter attack, now with the bruno and pogba partnership we are equally good at breaking down these so called 'low block' teams. We are also capable of giving any team a proper physical battle with the likes of matic, Mctominay, Maguire, AWB and shaw. Also we have plenty of pace to burn.
Tactically we have different ways of playing that are not just limited to a rigid 4-2-3-1 and the team really fights for each other when we go a goal down. I now have faith that we will bounce back in any game.
A lot of credit for this goes to ole and the bond that he has managed to develop with the players.
I'm happy that I have eaten the humble pie. He has fixed most of the issues I raised.The last were consistency and breaking down low blocks.
Ed should support him to get Sancho,a new DM/CM and a CB and maybe a backup striker(if Ighalo leaves).
Welldone Ole.
. He has fixed most of the issues I raised.The last were consistency and breaking down low blocks.Ed should support him to get Sancho,a new DM/CM and a CB and maybe a backup striker(if Ighalo leaves).
Welldone Ole.
How we looking right now, props to Ole, better than it was before a break thats for sure.
Our defense can improve BUT some of these goals are just our sloppyness. The defenders need to focus. But this is what we mean when we talk mentality. We go a goal down to stupid mistakes. But we're resolute and we get a foothold and the penalty we gave away - regardless of anything ...SLOPPY. However, once again we clear our heads and focus on our strength. The defense will come good again though I feel we need more pace. A fit bailly woud be useful and one who is switched on but they were sat back but we didn't have to get in behind them. We created the space by being positive and they opened up because they were scared and they were not bossing us at the back. A lot of the issues, have been mental. There are times we've played much to slow. That the opponents defenders say thank you. You make it easy for us. We don't even have to run. Now we've have a thirst for goals. Because there are more goalscorers, it removes pressure from one player and spreads it across the group and that's our strength. If teams sit back we no longer have to get in behind. We can....if we want too..but we can punish them from all over..just not from corners...
So going by what your saying we're going to win the league next year?? Well if that's the case I will be eating my words then won't I
I'll be very happy tooI’m really please with how we are playing right now and if we can keep this team together adding a Sancho to it I’m really excited for next season.
I do hope that the knives don’t come out again if we miss top 4 though, because we will drop points between now and the end of the season. Ole should be judged on the direction the team is going in.
I do hope that the knives don’t come out again if we miss top 4 though, because we will drop points between now and the end of the season. Ole should be judged on the direction the team is going in.
I like the way the way he is managing this congested period, a year ago he made the mistake to over play players and risk injuries. But this season he seems to have a better control of things, I like it, he is evolving nicely.
What a turnaround from the squad at the end of last season. I've gone from hating most of them to liking them again, Solskjaer's done a great job so far.
Yes I noticed this. There's a cycle that henever he makes mistakes, there's usually an obvious way to correct it and he does correct it. He's not like some managers eg Mourinho who would rather stick to his guns than try something else.
Switching James for Greenwood is the recent correction that comes to mind. Immediately Greenwood out on that cameo vs Spurs he's been playing him. Another one I remember is when we played with 3 defenders against a top team and we did well. He then went ahead with that same formation against a smaller side and it flopped. He hasn't done that ever since
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At the wheel indeed...
I must admit Ole is surprising me, and I think I got him wrong. The way he has us playing now is a breath of fresh air. I hope he continues to clear deadwood in the shape of Lingard, Pereira and co in the future, recruits wisely like he has done so far and we are looking like a proper team once again. Previously I thought he was out of his depth, he clearly is much better than what the team showed during the autumn. Long may it continue.
Another example is restoring Matic back in the team.
I don’t know how any United fan can’t be fully behind him at this point, given the absolute disaster this club has been ever since Fergie retired. He’s lifted the entire club and fanbase. Anyone wanting him replaced at this point is off their rocker, or a Liverpool fan.
I only wish this run was happening before a packed Old Trafford singing his name.
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