Contract's till 2024.
What's happened to De Gea?
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Why is every post SAF manager determined to saddle us with at least one exorbitantly paid declining player? Rooney, Schweinsteiger, Sanchez, and now this. Where's the judgement capable of avoiding this? Happened 4 times in a row now.
Watch Ole be a hypocrite and continue playing De Gea instead of dropping him.
He’s not been the same since he came back from the World Cup.
Something is up with him. Either he has lost focus or interest or he’s just going through one of those mid/late career dips in form like many players do.
it will be interesting to see how Ole handles this one.
Something is up with him. Either he has lost focus or interest or he’s just going through one of those mid/late career dips in form like many players do.
it will be interesting to see how Ole handles this one.
Loan him to Dortmund as part of Sancho's deal. Or Juve might took him because their goalkeepers are too old.
You want to see how many he has made in the last 12 months, someone highlighted each individual one in the De Gea thread and it makes absolute horror viewing. He could have a brilliant game on Wednesday but unfortunately I just cannot forget how many times he has cost us since that last world cup.
Enough of this Henderson out on loan for another year crap we need to get him back this summer and make De Gea feel like his place is under threat for the first time in years, maybe then we will get some decent form out of him again but don't count on it with recent showings.
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You would destroy De Gea's confidence if you dropped him. Look at Martial, Shaw etc and how they were treated in the past. Its not so easy as just dropping a goalie after the series of clangers. As a fan, I would.
But as a manager, its not so clear cut.
If a player doesn't want to prove himself after getting dropped, you're better moving on from him.
We're not a charity, he's been out of confidence for more than a year now and we're still stuck with him and his inconsistent performance. Clearly giving him a free reign isn't helping.
CR7 did this
Yeah there is no doubt this started in that opening world cup game. His style looks proper old fashioned in this new sweeper keeper era.
Plus few of the Spanish players having a go at him about it too.
Yes. I am still fuming from the match.
But its easy to say, just move him on. But at his wage package make it impossible for anyone willing to match it. You take him out now, he may be broken for a while -- on a 300k/week wage package? Woodward will need Ole to protect the 60million quid investment at the same time.
If its an issue of confidence, its the job of the manager to re-build it.
Ole needs to tread carefully -- we don't need another Ozil/Sanchez situation here
Agreed.
I love DDG but it's definitely time to drop him. Last season he blew our chance in the CL and top 4. This season the FA cup. Hope not top 4 again. We really need CL football next season.
Another long contract that could come back to haunt us. Nothing new there. Get Henderson back and let them compete. It worked for .. Madrid , was it, some time back? No problem with some healthy competition. Whoever is in form plays. I respect DDG for his brilliant performances for us over the years, but the silence from within the club surrounding his form, just gives the impression that we've put him on a pedestal where he cannot be questioned and his position not considered.
This was posted on the 4th of July & could have been used as post match for yesterday’s debacle.
He’s been too poor for too long whilst being backed despite us having the worlds best back up; if I were Romero I’d demand a transfer.
This. He is a club legend who gave his all when the club was in disarray. However bad he is now (and it really looks like he’s finished), he at least deserves some respect from the fans.
Romero first considering that he is better than Henderson, has been quite reliable for us and actually has played in a high-level.
Just read a Wayne Rooney thread on here & you see how true legends can be treated.
DDG has had 3 major periods of poor form in his time here; when he first arrived, a period during LVG & the last 18/24 months. Calling him a clown may be harsh but he’s been poor for a long time with no fear of losing his place - had the manager challenged him with the more than capable Romero we might not be in this position where he’s continually allowed to underperform.
It is.
He's been poor no doubt just don't call him names please. He deserves our respect, even a bit.
No one argues that he has been good recently. He has been horrible, not even by his own standards, just genuinely horrible. But he did enough for the club to at least be spared from name-calling, surely.
This place can’t respect fellow posters.
I didn’t use the term but think it’s a little sanctimonious people get so get up about respect for some players when there’s a stark lack of it for others on here.
I said calling him a clown may be harsh, but his tenure doesn’t raise him above criticism.
Focusing on the term clown feels like a bit of subversion of the actual subject. When you sit in the crowd you hear players called all sorts for less.
Massive decision now for the club this summer. One they probably could do without. As mentioned, his wages are a problem, but Ole has shown himself to be able to make difficult calls if necessary. I love DDG for all he has done, but he's now so unpredictable. IMO, Henderson at least deserves to be in the conversation and maybe he's in the squad next season to challenge De Gea.
Romero has been playing well in a few of low-profile games per season, Henderson has been one of the best keepers in the league. How is Romero better? I like him, but he gets insanely overrated here, you just need to look at his previous club career.
Playing as a reserve goalkeeper is very different than playing week in week out, and Romero, actually, doesn’t have a lot of experience in the latter role.
We’re keep repeating the same arguments, no one is saying that he shouldn’t be criticized. He should. The clown isn’t the only word that I’ve seen on here, and the fact that you can hear worse words in the stands doesn’t excuse those.
Romero has also played week in and week out. He has more appearances for his national team than Dean has in Championship and EPL. He has been reliable for us, and for Argentina. He also has played a World Cup final and a few Copa America finals (though he has lost all of them but not because of him) in addition to Europa Lague final. He is quite experienced in high-pressure matches and has been a good servant, so deserves a shot before Dean.
Probably better would be to have both of them next season and sell De Gea, but I don't see us selling De Gea.
Romero is not a long term option. He’s fantastic in his role as a back up keeper, but no, he doesn’t deserve a chance.
In Henderson, we potentially have a first team keeper for a no of years.
So the decision. Is DDG, Henderson or a new first team keeper (not Romero).
Nah, if you call Lingard or Pereira whatever name I have nothing against. But DDG, please don't. This guy has done enough for us to deserve some respect. Remember the fax machine? It's clear af that he wanted to go to Real Madrid then was refused to let go. Most players would lose their shit and do shit things in a situation like that. But DDG, he showed his outstanding professionalism, stayed and did his job as nothing happened. That alone would deserve some respect imo.
Hes not even our 2nd best keeper anymore. The guy was brilliant but not anymore. He's finished.
He might not be a long term option, but he deserves a shot ahead of Dean IMO. Dean might be a long-term option but he is nowhere yet the finished article and I don’t see the harm on leaving him for another season there getting experience by playing every week in a low-pressure environment.
I think that right now Romero is still a better keeper than him. Also, he should be better for our defense considering that they have been playing together.
I think Ole is very close to his Jim Leighton moment.
Leighton was United's number 1, Fergie bought him from Aberdeen where he obviously knew him. He was a great reflex goalie but made such stupid errors at times. He played in the 1990 Cup Final but was poor again so Sir Alex dropped him for the replay replacing him with on loan keeper Les Sealey. Leighton's United career was over and Sealey went on to become our number 1 for a few years.
I think Ole knows once he drops De Gea that's it, his fragile confidence will be shattered and we are then looking for a new goalie.
Leighton was United's number 1, Fergie bought him from Aberdeen where he obviously knew him. He was a great reflex goalie but made such stupid errors at times. He played in the 1990 Cup Final but was poor again so Sir Alex dropped him for the replay replacing him with on loan keeper Les Sealey. Leighton's United career was over and Sealey went on to become our number 1 for a few years.
I think Ole knows once he drops De Gea that's it, his fragile confidence will be shattered and we are then looking for a new goalie.
He should’ve been dropped earlier. Similar to how it was done 2012-13. Surely Romero is better than Lindegaard. It could actually do good for him and the team and take him out of the spotlight.
I just don’t see him dropped in the last two games. Normally a game with errors is followed by an uneventful game for him. Hope that trend continues.
I just don’t see him dropped in the last two games. Normally a game with errors is followed by an uneventful game for him. Hope that trend continues.
Agree.
It’s a massive shame to see his decline, but he’s been a fantastic player for us and during the low times, was often our only shining light.
Hopefully he can either recover some form or he moves on before the fans fully turn on him.
He’ll only be appreciated after he’s gone, like many of our former-players. Very short sighted.
The last time Romero had played week in week out was in 2012/13. To give you some perspective, this was the season when we had won the PL. After that he had lost a starting place in recently promoted Sampdoria and never played as a first choice in club football since.
His international career is quite impressive, although he never got even a remotely decent competition. Still, for the entirety of career there he was always an error-prone goalkeeper.
He’s a fantastic second choice keeper and he has been mostly brilliant for us given the chance but he’s not good enough to be our number 1, he never was and he never will be. His “experience” is very much in question as well. Considering what Henderson had achieved already, there is a possibility that he’ll become United’s number 1 for years, so there’s no real argument for benching him for Romero.
It’s the same as when fans had argued that Lindegaard was a better first choice than De Gea. Some players that perform well in secondary roles should get proper credit for that, but, at the same time, we shouldn’t overrate them – it’s a very specific role and the requirements for it are very different compared to the requirements for a first choice keeper.
P.S. as for the international career, for some context – Marcos Rojo is currently on 61 caps for the same Argentina side and he was a starter in their runners up World Cup campaign in 2014, same as Romero. Heck, he even got in the All Star XI somehow.
He's been a keeper with obvious faults even when he was at his best, but because of his best covering those issues up it was ignored, which was fair enough as he was winning us more games than losing them, now not so much the case. Its hard not to notice how poor he is with the ball at his feet, how terrible his distribution is and how he makes every corner or free kick into our box a very likely moment to concede a goal.
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This. When he was making world class saves his other attributes weren't exposed. Tragic is he never really worked on his weaknesses and now he lost his focus and his saves are not so good anymore those weaknesses really glare.
He should be moved on, he cost us top 4 last season and now he is again a liability. Had a good career at United but his time is up, the longer we keep him the further away from progression we are.
He is hindering us in many areas, in terms of command of the 6 yard box and also distribution, now add to that his unpredictable shot-stopping mistakes we need to upgrade. Personally I felt it needed to happen last summer, now its clear as day it needs to happen now.
He is hindering us in many areas, in terms of command of the 6 yard box and also distribution, now add to that his unpredictable shot-stopping mistakes we need to upgrade. Personally I felt it needed to happen last summer, now its clear as day it needs to happen now.
He's got the yips. Sadly, players rarely come back from that.
10 years as a first choice for MUFC is a great run, but as much as I hate to give up on Dave, it's time to bring back Henderson.
10 years as a first choice for MUFC is a great run, but as much as I hate to give up on Dave, it's time to bring back Henderson.
I guess we disagree then, especially on the analogy. Henderson is nowhere as good as De Gea was, heck he is not as good as De Gea on Atletico Madrid. And Romero is far better than Lindegard ever was.
My preferred option would be to start Romero with De Gea as backup, giving one last chance to De Gea to redeem himself and get his position back. Then if that does not work bring Henderson back the following season.
In any case, from what I have seen of Henderson he is not ready to be United’s main keeper. He will get his honeymoon period, but half a year in the season, the knives will be out, which could easily mean that his career here would be short. Probably better to give him some time to improve and get experience between giving him the spot. In that way, there might be some realistic chance of him actually being our main keeper for many years to come.
I don’t even know if Romero can play as a number one can he? I thought his knees (or something else maybe) weren’t up to it. I also don’t think Romero or Henderson’s kicking accuracy is much better.
I’m 90% we’re just going to continue with DDG next season either way. The club can’t afford to spend 100 million a new keeper, and I don’t see us being able to shift DDG to bring back Henderson.
I’m 90% we’re just going to continue with DDG next season either way. The club can’t afford to spend 100 million a new keeper, and I don’t see us being able to shift DDG to bring back Henderson.