Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

Sack or Keep OLE?

  • Sack Ole & appoint new coach ASAP

  • Keep Ole & back him to finish rebuild


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The holy trinity 68

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Ok. I hope you're fine with another underachieving season next year, watch us fail to get into the top 4 and the likes of city, Liverpool etc win more trophies
Sorry but Poch has won zero, that's right zero trophies in his managerial career. His best Spurs team came 3rd in the league vs Leicester and Arsenal. Arsenal of all teams finished ahead of his Spurs.
 

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"Pogba is a world class midfielder" in the eyes of Ole. Just like DDG and just like Maguire, yet they all continue to make mistake after mistake quite regularly.

Which is why we will never really go anywhere with him in charge.

All those saying we will challenge for the title next season even with sancho grealish etc are having a laugh.
 

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Well why is he to blame here for that Pogba incident ? it is individual players.. What else can he do ? Shout at them.. they are professionals.. he is a world cup winner.. if he is wilting under pressure .. what about the others
Nonsense. This isn't about today or about one penalty, it's about the last 3 games as well, and the first half of the season when we had relegation form.
 

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Ole fanatics are fine with a nice comfortable top 6 finish. So long as Bruno wins us a few games here and there who cares about things like coaching or tactics or in game management or attracting the best players.
You don't have to be an Ole fanatic to see that Pochettino is not the answer.
 

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If we collapse at the end two seasons in a row to miss out on top four he deserves nothing but the sack.

That's just basic common sense.
If we don't get it and he survives, that tells us all we need to know about this club. Ole was very lucky to still have this job after the midway point of the league.
 

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So when we are good, it's because he is doing a good job. When we are shite, it's because one player is not bothered. It's so predictable. :lol:
Pogba had an atrocious half of football and spent the entirety of it walking. You can choose to see that or not, it doesn't bother me or change the reality.
 

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He has the same problem as other managers before him, able to get his team do short sprints but fails to give them what's needed for the long haul.
 

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We have had some good luck over the season, but on the other hand, Ole has had to watch our players make some ridiculous and costly mistakes.
How do you plan for your keeper letting tame shots through his hand, or a star midfielder forgetting he's not a keeper?
Individual errors are part of the game unfortunately, you have 11 individuals out there. Doesn't change the fact our actual points tally, looking at the season in totality - which is supposed to be what you do rather than cherry pick purple patches - is, well bad.

I've seen us struggle for the past 3 games and today's half, opposition are tactically nullifying us and I've yet to see Ole answer this problem. Thats concerning.
 
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You don't have to be an Ole fanatic to see that Pochettino is not the answer.
He might not be the answer but he's still a better manager than Ole.

There's a lot of good young candidates out there and we should be seriously evaluating all of them right now. Not waiting until half way through next season when we're down in mid table like we usually do.
 

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feckin hell Ole, always sitting his arse on the seat. Get on the sideline and put some fire into your players.
 

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Thankfully I can’t comment in the match day thread. But some of you guys need to F off! Most important game in the season and we have this shit.
 

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This game worries me. I feel like we will play for a draw on Sunday and will be beat. Even if we don't, it's fecking stupid tactic, one that can easily backfire.
 

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Maybe here's an iPad app for how to organize a cohesive press, becuase there's no point in one player pressing by himself. No point in pressing if the only outcome is that our players only get more tired.
 

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Pogba had an atrocious half of football and spent the entirety of it walking. You can choose to see that or not, it doesn't bother me or change the reality.
Pogba has had a poor game, doesn't mean the whole team will fall apart. That is an indication of poor coaching.
 

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Pogba has had a poor game, doesn't mean the whole team will fall apart. That is an indication of poor coaching.
Pogba has been playing as one of two holding midfielders and not been showing for the ball. Consequently, we've not been able to play out from the back.

Has Pogba been solely responsible? No, but his poor performance at the heart of that midfield has been one of the key areas where we haven't got going.
 

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Good manager masquerading as a top class manager. There are quite a few worse than him in the PL but he just falls short of the level you’d expect from a United manager
 

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Pogba has been playing as one of two holding midfielders and not been showing for the ball. Consequently, we've not been able to play out from the back.

Has Pogba been solely responsible? No, but his poor performance at the heart of that midfield has been one of the key areas where we haven't got going.
Push him forward then and stop playing him in this stupid deep role when he offers danger everytime he plays forward. The goal came from that.

Pogba is one player that never hides from the ball too. If that’s what your referring to.
 

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Push him forward then and stop playing him in this stupid deep role when he offers danger everytime he plays forward. The goal came from that.

Pogba is one player that never hides from the ball too. If that’s what your referring to.
He was hiding all first half.

I don't know what to say to people who won't see the evidence in front of their face.
 

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Well we will see after the Leicester game. If he can’t capitalise on the absolute implosion that they’ve suffered then there is no way he’s the man to lead us — no matter how good his intentions are or his vision for the club.

Top 4 is the prerequisite and he would be failing twice. On the other hand, if he gets top 4 then let him continue and try to take us as far as he can.

I still don’t think he’s going to lead us to a title or anything but he’s shown that he can turn results around at least.
 

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Taking 84 minutes to sub Ighalo on for Rashford here is absolutely criminal and inexplicable.
 

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He won't even be asked about his late subs or lack of. Will say "tired" as an excuse and that's it
 

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Taking 84 minutes to sub Ighalo on for Rashford here is absolutely criminal and inexplicable.
Just bizarre and makes me wonder if our good form was in spite of Ole not because of him
 

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Does it not annoy everyone else to see this thread consistently pop up?
Certainly doesn't annoy me. I've thought from day one the Ole is not the man for the job. I've still not seen anything to make me change my mind
 

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Well we will see after the Leicester game. If he can’t capitalise on the absolute implosion that they’ve suffered then there is no way he’s the man to lead us — no matter how good his intentions are or his vision for the club.

Top 4 is the prerequisite and he would be failing twice. On the other hand, if he gets top 4 then let him continue and try to take us as far as he can.

I still don’t think he’s going to lead us to a title or anything but he’s shown that he can turn results around at least.
Pretty much this.
 

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Like I've always maintained, I am not going to call for his head even though I don't think he's good enough.
There are genuine arguments for keeping him.
That said my preference has always been and will always be for Pochettino.
 

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Does it not annoy everyone else to see this thread consistently pop up?
Not even in the slightest. The first half of the season was a mess. There was a serious collapse last season, and he has completely messed up this Chelsea/West Ham double header. He couldn’t have got it more wrong.

When people don’t have confidence due to priors, and the manager continues to make decisions which cost the team, it’s only natural that he will be discussed by concerned supporters who worry about the team first and foremost.

There are questions, so why shouldn’t they be asked?
 

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He doesn’t have the mentality to take us to the level we need to be to challenge City and Liverpool. Far too passive in making changes or getting any sort of reaction from his players. Just not good enough.
 

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We’ve looked laboured the whole game. Fernandes and Rashford looking the most tired. Yet one is still on the pitch, and the other not subbed off until 84 minutes. Can someone give a logical explanation for this?!

We’ve made 2 out of 5 available subs in a game where we’ve never looked so shattered.
 
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