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Laird was LB before he was moved to RB, he scored an insane number of goals from LB before he was moved
I read somewhere that laird and williams are both RB but williams was moved to LB because Laird was so good.

Dunno what’s correct.
 

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Thats a dumb mentality.
Thats a dumb mentality.
Yeah like Sneijder, Robben et al.
It is not difficult to understand I am not under estimating the player's ability to play for united, I am replying to the poster who is defining a player as not good enough to play for real Madrid, yet good enough to us, it felt as a dig at united. Has nothing to do with the player. In fact I like the player and want him to join.
 
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Do we know why Real want rid? He’s young, on a decent contract, homegrown, starts for Spain and considered one of the best LB in La Liga. Seems odd to sell him at a low price.
Probably because they invested 50m euro in Ferland Mendy who is in the same age bracket as Reguillon. With Marcelo as back up, real probably feel Reguillon is a player they can recoup some much needed funds from as they have a good option in that position already.
 

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I read somewhere that laird and williams are both RB but williams was moved to LB because Laird was so good.

Dunno what’s correct.
To be fair, Laird has spent a lot of time out injured, and Williams has still been a LB in the academy. I get that he is right footed, but this declaration that he is simply a RB is premature. He’s played LB pretty much exclusively for about 4 years now.

Arjen Robben is left-footed and was not by default a left winger. His position was right wing. We’ll see what happens longer term with Williams, but he’s spent majority of his time in recent years playing left back, whether Laird has been available to play RB or not.
 

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To be fair, you claimed Laird was a left back and he's scored an insane amount of goals from there in the academy. That''s simply not true mate. Nearly all his goals and assists have been from right back.
That simply is true. Why even argue when you don’t know what you’re talking about?

I don’t understand this concept. How are you acting like some authoritative know it all telling people what is true and isn’t true when you evidently haven’t a clue yourself? You don’t know something, why feel the need to claim you do?
 

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To be fair, Laird has spent a lot of time out injured, and Williams has still been a LB in the academy. I get that he is right footed, but this declaration that he is simply a RB is premature. He’s played LB pretty much exclusively for about 4 years now.

Arjen Robben is left-footed and was not by default a left winger. His position was right wing. We’ll see what happens longer term with Williams, but he’s spent majority of his time in recent years playing left back, whether Laird has been available to play RB or not.
Inverted wingers are bit different to Fullbacks.

Williams has played as LB in academy but he is right footed and will always make a better RB than LB. He always tries to come on his stronger foot to cross. Playing on right side should not make a lot of difference anyway. It should actually help him to deliver crosses better. That's why I prefer getting a LB over a RB.
 

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I want to believe this commentator knows something and isn't just saying that to get some attention but who knows.

Sergio certainly has a lot of facets to his game and impressive that he can ping a ball both from deep areas both across the field and forward as well.
 
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To be fair, you claimed Laird was a left back and he's scored an insane amount of goals from there in the academy. That''s simply not true mate. Nearly all his goals and assists have been from right back.

It wasn't his claim, it originated from Howson who's very clued up on the academy.
 

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Another guy WITH potential? We got plenty of that in our U-18s. We need someone who is capable of going into the first team straightaway.
Yeah played in the same league as Reguilon and just as impressive, so he’s a tad more proven than our under 18’s. In potential is was on about future growth as a player, he’s ready now to play for a good side.
 

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Shaw vs AWB isn't even a debate.

Neither is Shaw vs Reguilon at this point.

I'd start the season with AWB as our Right Back and best defensive fullback and Reguilon as our Left Back and best attacking fullback.

Shaw and Williams for backups/rotation sounds good if Dalot is to leave.
Shaw vs AWB it is a debate IMO. Shaw is far better at link up play and headers, AWB is better at defending and possibly final ball. I have Shaw as a better player though him missing half a season every time is a big worry. He definitely needs an upgrade simply cause you don’t get Shaw for a season but as things stand, Williams will play half of the season and he simply is nowhere as good as Shaw and AWB. Always thought that next to Sancho, upgrading Shaw is the biggest urgency we have.
 

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I’m wondering what the plan is for Williams and Laird over next years
Laird apparently is a massive talent (probably second only to Greenwood) so if he keeps the performances in the senior level, is gonna our AWB in the bench within the next 2 years. Williams is a good lad and hopefully will have a good career in EPL, but I doubt it will be at United.
 

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Even if he's not seriously injured, seems hard to believe United would accept a buyback deal.

I'm no expert on transfers but surely a buyback is worse for the buying club than a loan. If the player does well, you lose him. If he does badly, you lose the money.

If Madrid are desperate to get him off the books, surely we ask for a loan with a small fee thrown in.
I don’t think it is that bad, to be fair. First of all the buyback clause is put at a higher value than what we pay. So essentially, if Madrid gets him back, it means that we got a player in loan with Madrid actually giving us money to play him. Nothing wrong with having players in loan (Bayern has 2 this season). In fact nothing wrong with having a buyback clause (Juve had with Morata and it was ok). If he locks down our left flank for 2-3 seasons while we actually get 10-15m extra from the buyback clause, it means that essentially Madrid payed his wages for him to play for us. A pretty good deal IMO.

It would make sense to not accept such a deal if he was a prospect that we need to develop, but he is already good enough to start for us.
 

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You never really know with ankle injuries. It’s all about whether he’s done ligament damage. I did mine 2 weeks ago, couldn’t put weight on it for 3 days, I was like a Dalek when it came to trying to climb stairs and it swelled up like a balloon but I was back playing 5-aside 10 days later...admittedly I was only able to really run in straight lines :lol:

With Shaw they thought he hadn’t done any damage and it was just swollen but then he ended up being out for 6 weeks. Let’s hope he gets lucky but even if he isn’t and it is 6 weeks or so that he’s out for I doubt that puts us off if we really want him. Shaw is fit now I believe.
I did mine Friday night twice in one game, the pain was terrible and it swole like a motherfecker, couldn't put too much pressure on it as it was horrible.
A lot of ice and compression and today I can walk almost fine and the ankle reduced in size drastically.
My point is that his injury could be severe or mild, the initial reaction doesn't say much tbh.I feel like your situation is a bit like mine :lol:
I want to play so badly
 

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Brandon Williams is really a winger as far as his natural instincts but either way him, Shaw and AWB aren't really United standards.
 

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It wasn't his claim, it originated from Howson who's very clued up on the academy.
Laird is overrated, he is terrible defensively. He would be a winger if we don't have so many great youngsters on that position.
I'd pick Devine over him, a natural LB with decent number of assists and good defensively. But, He is not ready phisically for a men's game.

Laird as LB would be worse than A. Young.
 

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Shaw vs AWB it is a debate IMO. Shaw is far better at link up play and headers, AWB is better at defending and possibly final ball. I have Shaw as a better player though him missing half a season every time is a big worry. He definitely needs an upgrade simply cause you don’t get Shaw for a season but as things stand, Williams will play half of the season and he simply is nowhere as good as Shaw and AWB. Always thought that next to Sancho, upgrading Shaw is the biggest urgency we have.
Apart from his sliding tackles, AWB is not even close to being as good a defender as Shaw.

His main problem is staying fit, which is why we need a replacement at left back.
 

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I have no idea where you get those ideas from. Must be a Luke Shaw undercover account. AWB is ten times the better defender.
I guess you didn't get the memo that players are only as good as their last 3 games. Shaw has been injured and becoming world class as we speak. While AWB had a series of poor performances hence must be terrible.

Although I guess you are exaggerating when you say '10 times'.. the difference isn't that large either between Shaw and AWB.
 

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Apart from his sliding tackles, AWB is not even close to being as good a defender as Shaw.

His main problem is staying fit, which is why we need a replacement at left back.
I’d go dig up a mountain of stats to bury you under, but it isn’t worth it.

Shaw is a good defender. But AWB is far better defensively.

That being said, Shaw is the better fullback overall.
 

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I would be really glad if we are buying an attacking full back.. that's one of the biggest holes we have in the squad and my prediction would be that it will have a similar effect to us buying Carrick in 2006, in that a key jigsaw piece will fall into place and instantly take the entire team one notch up.

Having said that Reguilon is a young player coming from a different league.. so will always be a risk in terms of his adaption to the league. But we need to take such gambles to move forward.
 

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You know nuts about football if you think AWB is a better defender than Shaw.
Yeh. It's a bit concerning that some think, better at tackling equals a better defender.
 

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I’d go dig up a mountain of stats to bury you under, but it isn’t worth it.

Shaw is a good defender. But AWB is far better defensively.

That being said, Shaw is the better fullback overall.
Watch the actual games instead of blindly looking at stats.

AWB is brilliant at tackling but he's almost always out of position when defending.
 

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Shaw vs AWB it is a debate IMO. Shaw is far better at link up play and headers, AWB is better at defending and possibly final ball. I have Shaw as a better player though him missing half a season every time is a big worry. He definitely needs an upgrade simply cause you don’t get Shaw for a season but as things stand, Williams will play half of the season and he simply is nowhere as good as Shaw and AWB. Always thought that next to Sancho, upgrading Shaw is the biggest urgency we have.
AWB is always available. Shaw is injured for most of the time. There is no debate
 

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Alberto Moreno was very good at Sevilla too, and look at what happened to him once he joined Liverpool. In our system, with our midfield being a little weak without the ball, our full backs have additional defensive responsibilty. So need to be confident about that side of his game before we make a move for him.
 

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That simply is true. Why even argue when you don’t know what you’re talking about?

I don’t understand this concept. How are you acting like some authoritative know it all telling people what is true and isn’t true when you evidently haven’t a clue yourself? You don’t know something, why feel the need to claim you do?
Laird has one assist from LB. He has 12 and 4 goals from RB.

Think you’re wrong.
 

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I think if Shaw was a right back and Wan Bissaka left back, I'd still be saying upgrade left back. Not a whole lot of quality right backs. Plenty of options for all round left backs though, so thats why it's Shaw that needs upgrading rather than him being worse than Wan Bissaka IMO. Though the injury history is obviously one of the main issues.l
 

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Is Nations league just friendlies re-branded? Was watching Portugal highlights and Ronaldo wasn't even involved in the squad which shows me how utterly pointless it is.
 

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Apart from his sliding tackles, AWB is not even close to being as good a defender as Shaw.

His main problem is staying fit, which is why we need a replacement at left back.
AWB might be the best one on one defender in the league. I know that his positioning is suspect and he is useless in the air, but it is hard to find a better fullback who can shut down the other team’s biggest threat. Shaw is decent in everything (except the final ball) but is not great at anything.
 

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Laird has one assist from LB. He has 12 and 4 goals from RB.

Think you’re wrong.
Howson who usually goes to almost all youth games said Laird scored around 20 goals from LB for U16s and that was by december.
 

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Hilarious to see "AWB's positioning is poor" narrative is being built. His positioning is not poor, he is brilliant tackler doesn't mean his positioning is poor.
 

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Hilarious to see "AWB's positioning is poor" narrative is being built. His positioning is not poor, he is brilliant tackler doesn't mean his positioning is poor.
Wait til someone starts bringing out the maldini quotes. It inevitably always ends up there.
 

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Wait til someone starts bringing out the maldini quotes. It inevitably always ends up there.
Yeah, that quote is the biggest mistake on internet. People taking that as some sort of bible to judge even full backs is hilarious considering full backs defends 1v1 against tricky wingers most of the time. Maldini himself was master at sliding tackles.
 
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