Should we consider selling Pogba?

[He'sRaldo]

One of the commonly given reasons for us doing so poorly last season was that our best player Pogba was missing for half the season. I think whenever he's missing our eyes "open" so to speak about what he brings to the side.

If he misses the start of this season due to the virus, the same may very well happen again, and then once he comes back, for a few short moments the sentiment of this thread will be laughed at. That is, until he loses his first possession.

 

[MackRobinson]

There is no evidence that proves he is ‘quality’. it’s just hyperbole based on being a fan of the player. I think those who want to keep him are Pogba fanboys who put the player before the club.

I could easily spend that £120m to deliver a far better yield over next 3 years.

Completely self-unaware. Oh dear

 

[Halftrack]

Whats so weird? I asked that poster for some specific input, but got nothing new in return.
If you don't like how I engage, dont engage with me.

He conceded to what seems to be your main argument, namely that Pogba hasn't proven to be worth the fee we paid for him.

Seems you just don't want to have to defend being an asshole.

 

[Bestietom]

You're speaking on the club's behalf now ?

I was expecting you to answer.

 

[kouroux]

I was expecting you to answer.

Good for you , I guess.

 

[sammsky1]

Sell pogba for £70m and we can have

6 Kante. 8 Thiago
Bruno
Sancho Martial Rashford

subs include vdb & Greenwood

Team might win the league!

problem is no buyers for pogba Maybe he isn’t that great after all.

 

[jackal&hyde]

Sell pogba for £70m and we can have

6 Kante. 8 Thiago
Bruno
Sancho Martial Rashford

subs include vdb & Greenwood

Team might win the league!

probelm is no buyers for pogba

No respect for him either from some.

 

[Class of 63]

Sell pogba for £70m and we can have

6 Kante. 8 Thiago
Bruno
Sancho Martial Rashford

subs include vdb & Greenwood

Team might win the league!

problem is no buyers for pogba Maybe he isn’t that great after all.

You'd think with Paul being by a country mile our best player, AND a World Cup winner they'd be queuing round the block to pay £70m for him, I mean we'd be practically giving him away!

 

[He'sRaldo]

You'd think with Paul being by a country mile our best player, AND a World Cup winner they'd be queuing round the block to pay £70m for him, I mean we'd be practically giving him away!

You do realize he's not for sale in real life...

 

[kouroux]

You do realize he's not for sale in real life...

He is, in their world.

 

[Class of 63]

You do realize he's not for sale in real life...

Every player is for sale in real life

 

[Class of 63]

He is, in their world.

Here on planet Earth everything is for sale if you show the money.

 

[kouroux]

Here on planet Earth everything is for sale if you show the money.

You're right but sometimes the probably of a sale is so low that it's a bit pointless to think about what would happen if it did occur. On planet Earth, Pogba isn't for sale this season, it's time to accept it.

 

[Class of 63]

You're right but sometimes the probably of a sale is so low that it's a bit pointless to think about what would happen if it did occur. On planet Earth, Pogba isn't for sale this season, it's time to accept it.

The probability of a sale is that low because nobody wants him.

 

[kouroux]

The probability of a sale is that low because nobody wants him.

Just like nobody wants Neymar, Mbappé, KDB,VVD,Ronaldo ? You're right. No one wants him

 

[foolsgold]

Do we want to sell Pogba ?

No, he's our best player but with 22 months left on his contract it's renew or sell time for me.

 

[Class of 63]

Just like nobody wants Neymar, Mbappé, KDB,VVD,Ronaldo ? You're right. No one wants him

He's coming into the last 18 months of his contract yet nobody, and there would be rumours if they had, is testing the water. Don't you find that strange for somebody rated so highly by so many?

 

[kouroux]

He's coming into the last 18 months of his contract yet nobody, and there would be rumours if they had, is testing the water. Don't you find that strange for somebody rated so highly by so many?

I only look at facts tbh, Paul said he is happy and wants to stay, Ole said he is happy with him and wants him to stay, all done publicly.
Those aren't the conditions for clubs to come sniffing around and more of a new contract being worked on but that's a conjecture I suppose. That and the covid situation making it harder to sign expensive and marketable players

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

He's coming into the last 18 months of his contract yet nobody, and there would be rumours if they had, is testing the water. Don't you find that strange for somebody rated so highly by so many?

We are in the middle of a pandemic, where there is mass uncertainty of future revenues for clubs.

This transfer window is very different.

 

[Class of 63]

I only look at facts tbh, Paul said he is happy and wants to stay, Ole said he is happy with him and wants him to stay, all done publicly.
Those aren't the conditions for clubs to come sniffing around and more of a new contract being worked on but that's a conjecture I suppose. That and the covid situation making it harder to sign expensive and marketable players

Paul let it be known he wasn't happy last year but stayed, maybe this year with him saying he's happy he will go.

 

[jackal&hyde]

He's coming into the last 18 months of his contract yet nobody, and there would be rumours if they had, is testing the water. Don't you find that strange for somebody rated so highly by so many?

When the player and the club is happy at the level of a Man Utd, Barca, Real, it would take an extreme level offer to change that, so no point in testing anything.

 

[kouroux]

Paul let it be known he wasn't happy last year but stayed, maybe this year with him saying he's happy he will go.

You're really stuck in the past. The situation has evolved since then.

 

[Class of 63]

We are in the middle of a pandemic, where there is mass uncertainty of future revenues for clubs.

This transfer window is very different.

I think somebody should tell Chelsea, nah let 'em find out the hard way.

 

[Class of 63]

When the player and the club is happy at the level of a Man Utd, Barca, Real, it would take an extreme level offer to change that, so no point in testing anything.

Lets see how happy he is if he's not made the highest paid player at the club first. We should cut our losses now if we receive a suitable offer(in the current climate it will probably have to be a swap/part exchange)because there has been nothing in his performances the last 2 years which suggests he should be the top earner, or even close to it.

 

[sammsky1]

You do realize he's not for sale in real life...

Neither is Sancho. BVB publicly said so.

 

[romufc]

He's coming into the last 18 months of his contract yet nobody, and there would be rumours if they had, is testing the water. Don't you find that strange for somebody rated so highly by so many?

That is true now, prior to Covid there were discussions with Juve. Whether you like it or not, only 2/3 clubs can afford Pogba. PSG, Real and Juve who have all said they are not buying big because of covid.

Does that mean because we are the only club in for Sancho he isnt good enough? No one even testing the water apart from us? No one even linked to him.

 

[jackal&hyde]

Lets see how happy he is if he's not made the highest paid player at the club first. We should cut our losses now if we receive a suitable offer(in the current climate it will probably have to be a swap/part exchange)because there has been nothing in his performances the last 2 years which suggests he should be the top earner, or even close to it.

I'm not saying i'm a fan of it but very marketable players are worth more to the club then just what they offer to the team and Pogba is one of the biggest stars in football; this will always be reflected in his wages.

 

[Class of 63]

That is true now, prior to Covid there were discussions with Juve. Whether you like it or not, only 2/3 clubs can afford Pogba. PSG, Real and Juve who have all said they are not buying big because of covid.

Does that mean because we are the only club in for Sancho he isnt good enough? No one even testing the water apart from us? No one even linked to him.

That's why I expanded on it and said it would probably have to be a swap/part exchange which brings potentially a dozen clubs into play, yet no takers.

And on Sancho everybody knows that Dortmund are taking the piss with their £108m valuation, the lad has done nothing it the game yet to suggest he's worth anywhere near that figure, and if it wasn't the biggest and by quite some distance club in England interested in him, and/or if he wasn't English they'd be looking at £60m tops if he was desperate to get away.

 

[romufc]

That's why I expanded on it and said it would probably have to be a swap/part exchange which brings potentially a dozen clubs into play, yet no takers.

And on Sancho everybody knows that Dortmund are taking the piss with their £108m valuation, the lad has done nothing it the game yet to suggest he's worth anywhere near that figure, and if it wasn't the biggest and by quite some distance club in England interested in him, and/or if he wasn't English they'd be looking at £60m tops if he was desperate to get away.

Just on that, Mbappe went for £180m from Monaco to PSG, he is not english.
Felix went from Benefica to Atheltico for over £100m and he is not english
Havertz is going to be 100m Euros.

Sancho has done more than either of them prior to the move. I do not get where the value of £60m for Sancho comes from.

Pepe went for £72m. Sancho is not desperate to leave, he is happy to stay another year and develop.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

No we should not consider selling Pogba.

 

[Class of 63]

I'm not saying i'm a fan of it but very marketable players are worth more to the club then just what they offer to the team and Pogba is one of the biggest stars in football; this will always be reflected in his wages.

That's fine, if he's performing on the pitch, but he isn't.

 

[kouroux]

That's why I expanded on it and said it would probably have to be a swap/part exchange which brings potentially a dozen clubs into play, yet no takers.

And on Sancho everybody knows that Dortmund are taking the piss with their £108m valuation, the lad has done nothing it the game yet to suggest he's worth anywhere near that figure, and if it wasn't the biggest and by quite some distance club in England interested in him, and/or if he wasn't English they'd be looking at £60m tops if he was desperate to get away.

Why would there takers in a scenario that is probably not even considered ? I don't get why you believe that the club is trying to sell him but no one wants him.

 

[Hammondo]

Just like nobody wants Neymar, Mbappé, KDB,VVD,Ronaldo ? You're right. No one wants him

Pogba did ask to leave though and no one was interested.

 

[kouroux]

Pogba did ask to leave though and no one was interested.

A year or so ago, things evolve fast in football. We're still talking about the current situation right ?

 

[sammsky1]

A year or so ago, things evolve fast in football. We're still talking about the current situation right ?

No one wanted to buy him a year ago despite him publicly stating so.
No one has still come in for him.
What’s changed in a year?

 

[kouroux]

No one wanted to buy him a year ago despite him publicly stating so.
No one has still come in for him.
What’s changed in a year?

This year, he doesn't wanna go and the club doesn't wanna sell. Last year he wanted to but it would have taken a ridiculious amount for any club to have a chance. Real Madrid already bought Hazard, Barca bought Griezmann, PSG had FFP restrictions, who else could/would have broken the bank for him ? Context is something you don't seem to be interested in. Just a quickly made up conclusion

 

[Glorio]

I like Pogba and rate him a lot, but I don't subscribe to this view that he's our best player by a country mile, and I don't know what that's based on in all fairness.

Does he consistently perform better than all the rest of our players by a country mile? I'd say no. He's obviously very talented, but it's odd that we're still talking about ceilings when the player is 27. Maybe he'll consistently show how good he is this season, but right now, he hasn't.

I definitely don't want him sold as he's extremely talented and on his day, is a difference maker. I also hope he becomes more consistent in his performances on the pitch.

 

[Class of 63]

Just on that, Mbappe went for £180m from Monaco to PSG, he is not english.
Felix went from Benefica to Atheltico for over £100m and he is not english
Havertz is going to be 100m Euros.

Sancho has done more than either of them prior to the move. I do not get where the value of £60m for Sancho comes from.

Pepe went for £72m. Sancho is not desperate to leave, he is happy to stay another year and develop.

No he's French, that's why PSG a French club with a bottomless pit went the extra mile to get him with the home-grown quotas in mind.

European football is still in shock that Atletico paid what they did for Felix, it was very much a wtf moment at the time, so that's not a great example, nobody else was paying/offering even close to that.

The £60m is just a random figure, but there seems to be a bit more common sense used with transfer fees at the minute, and Dortmund have always been one of the fairest at sorting out moves for their players when they want a move, whatever the reason. Maybe should've said £75/80m.

 

[jackal&hyde]

Pogba did ask to leave though and no one was interested.

No one was interested? Zidane could not stop talking about him and Juve were also interested. We refused to entertain the idea of selling him.

 

[Class of 63]

Why would there takers in a scenario that is probably not even considered ? I don't get why you believe that the club is trying to sell him but no one wants him.

Where have I said that I think United are trying to sell him? But if Pogba turns down the pending contract extension, and i've a funny feeling he will if he doesn't get parity with the wages De Gea is supposedly getting, the Board will have to be open to the idea because in just over a year Pogba will be able to sign a pre-contract with a club on the Continent and leave on a free.