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It would be a gamble that could fail spectacularly or turn us into title challengers immediately.

If Sancho isn't coming, then what do we have to lose on a potential loan deal?
 

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It would be a gamble that could fail spectacularly or turn us into title challengers immediately.

If Sancho isn't coming, then what do we have to lose on a potential loan deal?
Yeah same reason here. Another year of James, we got nothing to lose except not that much money.
 

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It would be a gamble that could fail spectacularly or turn us into title challengers immediately.

If Sancho isn't coming, then what do we have to lose on a potential loan deal?
Club harmony.

If an amateur golfer gets paid 300k/week, why shouldn't Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Bruno all get paid 400k each?

We finally have a bunch which likes each other, and you guys want to ruin it for a pathetic has-been who is leeching RM and throwing a fit since he wasn't allowed to go to China to collect more retirement money.

Did you guys miss all the stories on how Sanchez was such a negative influence, highest paid player who wasn't committed?
 

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Club harmony.

If an amateur golfer gets paid 300k/week, why shouldn't Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Bruno all get paid 400k each?

We finally have a bunch which likes each other, and you guys want to ruin it for a pathetic has-been who is leeching RM and throwing a fit since he wasn't allowed to go to China to collect more retirement money.

Did you guys miss all the stories on how Sanchez was such a negative influence, highest paid player who wasn't committed?
Over react very often? Blimey.
 

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It would be a gamble that could fail spectacularly or turn us into title challengers immediately.

If Sancho isn't coming, then what do we have to lose on a potential loan deal?
Probably 300x4x12= £14.4m

Imo truth is always between the two extreme possibilities. I don't think he'd fail spectacularly nor turn us into a title challenger. But I do think he'd be a good addition and 100℅ positive he's better than Lingard, Mata or James.
 

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Club harmony.

If an amateur golfer gets paid 300k/week, why shouldn't Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Bruno all get paid 400k each?

We finally have a bunch which likes each other, and you guys want to ruin it for a pathetic has-been who is leeching RM and throwing a fit since he wasn't allowed to go to China to collect more retirement money.

Did you guys miss all the stories on how Sanchez was such a negative influence, highest paid player who wasn't committed?
Because we aren't paying him that - its real Madrid who is paying him that.

Bale is a CL monster and we are back in the CL. He will be getting payed what Martial will be getting payed roughly and this is a guy who has a history of being amazing in the CL.

Do we have a single player known to be good in the CL?
 

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Who gives a shit if he’s turned us down before?

Nothing wrong with an opinion that he’s finished, personally I think on a loan with reduced wages, then it’s a risk worth taking. However I understand an alternative viewpoint.

But if the reason for not wanting him is pride because he had the desire to go to Spain, for a top club, where he ended up winning 3 x CL’s and then the perfectly rational desire not to want to work with David “I win” Moyes the that’s a stupid reason to not want him.
We would be signing a player whose finished. The guy is on his last pay cheque and had shown that he couldn't give a feck about us before so don't expect him to work too hard if he comes here either. By signing him we will be doing a favor to a him and his scum club who wants to get rid of part of his salary.

Ole had said time and time again that he wants young and hungry players who wants to fight for our cause. Bale is the exact opposite to that. Not to forget that our players hate people stealing a living on huge salaries as well. They showed that with Sanchez, they'll probably do the same with Bailed
 

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It’s dirty and desperate in here :lol:

we aren’t going to sign Bale though are we? Even if we’d got him a few years ago while we were supposedly doing things differently then that would be something but what’s annoying me is we’ve supposedly changed our approach but here we are again and it’s not even slightly surprising
 

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I’d hate it if we lose out on Sancho, but if we do, id rather we get Bale on a subsidized loan than signing someone like Brooks or Douglas Costa. I think Bale can still be good for us, if (big if) he can stay healthy.
 

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Club harmony.

If an amateur golfer gets paid 300k/week, why shouldn't Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Bruno all get paid 400k each?

We finally have a bunch which likes each other, and you guys want to ruin it for a pathetic has-been who is leeching RM and throwing a fit since he wasn't allowed to go to China to collect more retirement money.

Did you guys miss all the stories on how Sanchez was such a negative influence, highest paid player who wasn't committed?
Except he'd be here on loan and we likely wouldn't be paying 100% of his wages.

I think the Sanchez deal has ruined all of our hopes of ever signing a world class experienced player - but I think the situation here is completely different.

It works out or it doesn't - chances are he'll be back at Madrid next summer either way. And who knows, he may have a positive influence on Rashford, Martial and Greenwood for having played with a world class, three time CL winner.
 
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We would be signing a player whose finished. The guy is on his last pay cheque and had shown that he couldn't give a feck about us before so don't expect him to work too hard if he comes here either. By signing him we will be doing a favor to a him and his scum club who wants to get rid of part of his salary. Not to forget that Ole had said time and time again that he wants young and hungry players who wants to fight for our cause. Bale is the exact opposite to that
I said have no issue with that point of view that you think he’s the wrong player.

It is however completely stupid not to want him because he turned us down, that’s the issue I have with your thinking.
 

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Bale, Bruno, Pogba ,Van De Beek, Martial, Rashford,Greenwood.

Time we add some experience in to our line up if we want to be useful in the CL. A under 25 front 3 isnt doing us anything in the CL all by it self.
 

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If we sign Bale, I'm blaming Giggs. He's the one whispering those shitty ideas to Ole. I refuse to believe anyone thinking rationally would want to get anywhere near Bale unless he's been given bad advices and in this case it'd be Giggs corrupting Ole's mind to rescue his washed up Wales winger. :nervous:
 

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Club harmony.

If an amateur golfer gets paid 300k/week, why shouldn't Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Bruno all get paid 400k each?

We finally have a bunch which likes each other, and you guys want to ruin it for a pathetic has-been who is leeching RM and throwing a fit since he wasn't allowed to go to China to collect more retirement money.

Did you guys miss all the stories on how Sanchez was such a negative influence, highest paid player who wasn't committed?
Bale is no prima donna and has been a massive influence on a young welsh squad.
And he’s not an amateur golfer, he plays golf in his spare time, the same as other players play Xbox or go shopping or sell T-shirt’s.
 

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I said have no issue with that point of view that you think he’s the wrong player.

It is however completely stupid not to want him because he turned us down, that’s the issue I have with your thinking.
You don't see me using that against Mcneill. Why? Cause he is a young hungry lad who wants to succeed. Same with Pogba who turned us down under Sir Alex. He wanted to play, we didn't give him enough games and he returned home when the time was right. None of them were/are in search of their final pay cheque

Bailed is finding it hard to motivate himself at Real and at 600k a week. Do you think he will find that motivation with a team he turned down? His signing goes against Ole's philosophy and will probably recreate a Sanchez V2.0 situation, with players wondering why a golfer is being paid more then them.
 

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To be fair, even the most ardent Man Utd fan would have been proved correct in not joining under the stewardship of David “I win” Moyes.
Well of course, but I never thought he was a United fan at any point. He obviously made the right decision in joining Real. But I think we’d have heard by now if Bale was ever a United fan. I severely doubt he has any affinity for us at all.
He’s open to moving to us now because he’s other choice was going to China. Reminds of this..

 

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A loan would be a good deal. People seriously downplaying how good he is when fit. Just need to keep him fit, right!?
Bale and fit in the same sentence. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Heck apparently he's reported injured to Real Madrid after the international break where he only played 1 half of football. I mean why should we be that naive to think this guy will manage to stay fit even for half his time here? :lol:

If people are content with wasting the club millions then go ahead and sign the crock that Bale is. Phil Jones probably getting bored these days looking for a new mate to spend months on in the physio room.
 

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If we’re not going for Sancho then let’s go for Adama Troure. The guy has came on leaps and bounds and is premier league proven.
 

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I’d rather nobody than Bale. Even on vastly reduced terms, he’s finished.
 

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Most reports have Madrid paying at least half of his wages.
And that's still 250+. Stupid wages especially for a player who is most likely to spend more time together with Phil Jones than on the pitch.
 
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Bale is no prima donna and has been a massive influence on a young welsh squad.
And he’s not an amateur golfer, he plays golf in his spare time, the same as other players play Xbox or go shopping or sell T-shirt’s.
He is disliked by his teammates at RM.

How often does that happen? Players always try to look out for each other, even when fans or the club turn against one of them.

Even Oezil at Arsenal is not disliked as much as this guy is.
 
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Well of course, but I never thought he was a United fan at any point. He obviously made the right decision in joining Real. But I think we’d have heard by now if Bale was ever a United fan. I severely doubt he has any affinity for us at all.
He’s open to moving to us now because he’s other choice was going to China. Reminds of this..

I doubt He’s a Utd fan. It is however completely irrelevant as a pro footballer. Alan Smith came out and said he hated Utd and would never play for us - yet he did when the right opportunity came about. Carragher was an Everton fan, and there are loads or more examples.

I find it amusing to see how many people hold his more to Real against him. He always wanted to go there, and believe we didn’t even have a bid accepted bu spurs. Furthermore, United in the Moyes and LVG era was not attractive to any top player.

Jose at least could attract a decent player.
 

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He’s open to moving to us now because he’s other choice was going to China. Reminds of this..
Even China doesn't want him anymore, or he would have been long gone.

They wanted him last summer and Perez refused, and he has been throwing his toys out of the pram since.
 

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I doubt He’s a Utd fan. It is however completely irrelevant as a pro footballer. Alan Smith came out and said he hated Utd and would never play for us - yet he did when the right opportunity came about. Carragher was an Everton fan, and there are loads or more examples.

I find it amusing to see how many people hold his more to Real against him. He always wanted to go there, and believe we didn’t even have a bid accepted bu spurs. Furthermore, United in the Moyes and LVG era was not attractive to any top player.

Jose at least could attract a decent player.
I know it is. It was just a passing thought and a joke that I replied to @Sandikan
 

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This guy is finished and had previously turned us down twice. Where is our pride?
The guy is done. Pride or otherwise is secondary.
People suddenly see that he is not getting injured and think Zidane or Real is the only problem. He is not getting injured because he is not playing.
Come back to the intensity of PL and he will be getting injured again.
 

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Even China doesn't want him anymore, or he would have been long gone.

They wanted him last summer and Perez refused, and he has been throwing his toys out of the pram since.
Exactly. We don’t know what his state of mind is exactly so taking him on 300k after Sanchez just seems daft.
 

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One year loan deal sounds alright. Hard to judge someones personality just from what´s written in the papers, but Giggs (and James) would have an opinion what he brings to the dressing room, and I´m sure Ole will have a word with both.
 

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He is on 600k/week at RM.

You lot want to pay 50% of that, which will instantly make him the most paid player at United (before bonuses).

For a check-out and washed out amateur golfer.
I dunno, he's an amateur golfer with 3 Champions Leagues under his belt. That kind of pedigree and winning mentality doesn't become available very often.

Which of the scenarios below would you rather:

- Sign no one, wait until Greenwood shows a bit of inconsistency (which can be expected of a 19 year old) and then play with James/ Lingard/ Mata on the right. The moaning resumes as we revert to type and scrape a top six finish.

- Sign Bale who immediately raises the level of the team overnight, a player who provides competition down the right and someone the likes of Rashford and Greenwood could learn immensely from. Plus he's British and would integrate immediately into the team. At the end of the season he goes back to Madrid, leaving them with the headache of what to do with him next whilst we have another go at getting Sancho from BvB.

It's completely different from the Sanchez deal and I think if he came, he'd prove a lot of the doubters wrong. We need a good mixture of experience and youth in the team, and he'd bring the experience.
 

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He is disliked by his teammates at RM.

How often does that happen? Players always try to look out for each other, even when fans or the club turn against one of them.

Even Oezil at Arsenal is not disliked as much as this guy is.
I wouldn’t say he’s disliked but yes maybe He’s not suited to the Spanish culture so doesn’t go to late night meals with the team, language barriers to a degree, so may not have bonded as well With them, seems he’s just not one of the lads there, it doesn’t mean he’s disliked, unless you have quotes I don’t know of. This is an absolute different story to with the Wales squad where he can bond with the team, I think he’d fit United great at the moment and would be great for our younger wingers
 
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