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You don't see me using that against Mcneill. Why? Cause he is a young hungry lad who wants to succeed. Same with Pogba who turned us down under Sir Alex. He wanted to play, we didn't give him enough games and he returned home when the time was right. None of them were/are in search of their final pay cheque

Bailed is finding it hard to motivate himself at Real and at 600k a week. Do you think he will find that motivation with a team he turned down? His signing goes against Ole's philosophy and will probably recreate a Sanchez V2.0 situation, with players wondering why a golfer is being paid more then them.
So it’s not an issue that he turned down the club? If that’s the case, thanks for clarifying. It was therefore a bit of an unnecessary rant.

Real and Bale are probably equally to blame for his situation. He agreed to go to China last year, but Madrid pulled the deal - if they didn’t he would have gone. Real have wanted a massive fee for him, which hasn’t been justified, and no one would pay it.

Is Bale finished, unmotivated? Perhaps?

I, in no way advocate buying him, indeed I’ve not seen anyone do so. Where have you got this from?

However, a 1 year loan, on significantly reduced wages would be a risk worth taking. That’s what I think would work for United.

If he performs well, he puts himself in the shop window for one last big contract.
 

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Didn’t Michael Owen love his horse riding during his free time and yet Fergie brought him here to the club?
You’re not allowed to have hobbies outside the game these days
 

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The delusion is real in here, he's been past it for ages and doesn't give a shit about playing football, his game was massively reliant on pace and athleticism he no longer has, we might as well just go and get Buendia on the cheap from Norwich.
 

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Didn’t Michael Owen love his horse riding during his free time and yet Fergie brought him here to the club?
Owen was on 30k a week salary. Bale would be one of the highest paid players if he joined on loan
 

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How many players have been put in that position though? I can't think many elite players have fallen out of favour so far that their club has so little interest in them. You wonder whether the lack of motivation is what precipitated that, because it so rarely happens to top professionals.
As always a very good point. Never followed the happenings at other clubs besides United. I have no idea what's gone on between Madrid and Bale. Seems self-defeating on both sides.
 

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So it’s not an issue that he turned down the club? If that’s the case, thanks for clarifying. It was therefore a bit of an unnecessary rant.

Real and Bale are probably equally to blame for his situation. He agreed to go to China last year, but Madrid pulled the deal - if they didn’t he would have gone. Real have wanted a massive fee for him, which hasn’t been justified, and no one would pay it.

Is Bale finished, unmotivated? Perhaps?

I, in no way advocate buying him, indeed I’ve not seen anyone do so. Where have you got this from?

However, a 1 year loan, on significantly reduced wages would be a risk worth taking. That’s what I think would work for United.

If he performs well, he puts himself in the shop window for one last big contract.
At this stage of his career and with this player it is an issue. We are not talking of present Ronaldo here or a 34 year old Becks who would have died on the pitch just to end his United's career on a good note. Bailed is a player who is struggling to remain motivated at 600k a week. Good luck persuading him to do that with us despite proving that he can't care less about this club.
 
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Maybe he just doesn't give a shit about playing football for Madrid? It seems they've been rather rude to him. He's not my first choice but as a stop gap short term signing might be alright. Don't want to see any five years deals for this guy, though.
 

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I'd take him on a 1 year loan if we don't get Sancho.
This seems an obvious solution to me as well. If there is no Sancho there is no better solution for the season ahead.

I will bend the knee to those outraged and say loan only with at least half the wages covered by Madrid.
 

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This seems an obvious solution to me as well. If there is no Sancho there is no better solution for the season ahead.

I will bend the knee to those outraged and say loan only with at least half the wages covered by Madrid.
Exactly. If we could give fecking Ighalo a loan deal, what's wrong with giving him one!
 
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At this stage of his career and with this player it is an issue. We are not talking of present Ronaldo here or a 34 year old Becks who would have died on the pitch just to end his United's career on a good note. Bailed is a player who is struggling to remain motivated at 600k a week. Good luck persuading him to do that with us despite proving that he can't care less about this club.
You don’t actually read do you?

For a third time, I’ve no issue with that opinion. I don’t agree with it, but can understand the perspective.

The fact you hold a grudge against him because he “turned us down” is as pathetic, as it is short sighted. It’s not in the slightest a consideration of whether we should pursue Bale or not.

Almost as pathetic as calling him Bailed.
 

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The delusion is real in here, he's been past it for ages and doesn't give a shit about playing football, his game was massively reliant on pace and athleticism he no longer has, we might as well just go and get Buendia on the cheap from Norwich.
How do you know he doesn’t give a shit about playing football? He turns up for Wales every time, playing second rate international teams on crap pitches dotted around Europe.
 

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The guy is done. Pride or otherwise is secondary.
People suddenly see that he is not getting injured and think Zidane or Real is the only problem. He is not getting injured because he is not playing.
Come back to the intensity of PL and he will be getting injured again.
Heck he's apparently reported injured after finally playing 1 half of football for Wales :lol:

People have death wishes on these boards I swear :lol:
 

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We need to sign a RW before the window closes. This isn't my 1st or even 3rd choice, but what's to lose with a short term loan if RM pay >50% of his wages and there is performance clause in his contract? It's a gamble to see if Ole can motivate Bale to care again, but one I'd back.

I do see the argument about him disrupting the dressing room, either from a personality or salary standpoint.

But it would be madness to go into the season with Greenwood as our only decent RW. He is young and is guaranteed to be inconsistent. Mata or Lingard as our RW backup is recipe for disaster...
 

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We need to sign a RW before the window closes. This isn't my 1st or even 3rd choice, but what's to lose with a short term loan if RM pay >50% of his wages and there is performance clause in his contract? It's a gamble to see if Ole can motivate Bale to care again, but one I'd back.

I do see the argument about him disrupting the dressing room, either from a personality or salary standpoint.

But it would be madness to go into the season with Greenwood as our only decent RW. He is young and is guaranteed to be inconsistent. Mata or Lingard as our RW backup is recipe for disaster...
I'd rather play VDB or Bruno there, and bring in Fred or Scott.
 

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The delusion is real in here, he's been past it for ages and doesn't give a shit about playing football, his game was massively reliant on pace and athleticism he no longer has, we might as well just go and get Buendia on the cheap from Norwich.
THIS, fecking THIS exactly !!!

For some reason some people talking about Bale as if it were 5 years ago or something. Some people have somehow managed to convinced themselves that they'd be getting a prime or even decent Bale that will be instrumental to us. Even if we ignore all the issues ranging from fitness(He'll drop in the first week or 2 then join Jones in the physio room for months end), club's harmony(Why would any of our top performers be happy and content seeing a has been, past it dude rack up more dough then them when he'd most likely be spending most of his time on the injury table) there is still the fact that he is way past it and isn't all that anymore.

Why would anyone want this guy, honestly? :confused:
 

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We are playing hard ball on paying for sancho so I'd expect the same for Bale and his wages. I'd say we would offer Madrid for us to pay 200k a week for his wages on a take it or leave it loan deal. Even taking 200k a week off their wage bill and if Bale performs then they might get a decent fee for him at the end of the loan, from us or someone else. No value buying him now for any team other than USA or China teams as a marketing tool.
 

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Didn’t Michael Owen love his horse riding during his free time and yet Fergie brought him here to the club?
He jumped at the chance to come here as an ex Liverpool golden boy to play on a humble wage, slightly different
 

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Why would anyone want this guy, honestly? :confused:
Because they are muppets.

Once he inevitably fails, they can muppet about the next guy and call Woodward and Judge names for being incompetent.

Rinse, repeat.
 

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As always a very good point. Never followed the happenings at other clubs besides United. I have no idea what's gone on between Madrid and Bale. Seems self-defeating on both sides.
Yeah I've no idea what's going on at Madrid either. It's undoubtedly true that they've passed on great players before, at least in part due to changing managers. I gather it's particularly Zidane that's not so keen on him.

If he was to turn into another Sneijder or Robben it'd be a big boost to a team like ours. The British factor does help a bit, you'd think if any thing's going to motivate him at this stage it'd be winning a league in his home country. Feels more Michael Owen than Arjen Robben though.

It most feels like Falcao, actually. At first it made no sense. Then it sounded like a relatively risk free gamble and I warmed up to it. I'm doing the same here! I've no idea what he plays like these days but if he wants to take players on and use the space out wide, it would be a useful alternative to Greenwood.
 

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We need to sign a RW before the window closes. This isn't my 1st or even 3rd choice, but what's to lose with a short term loan if RM pay >50% of his wages and there is performance clause in his contract? It's a gamble to see if Ole can motivate Bale to care again, but one I'd back.

I do see the argument about him disrupting the dressing room, either from a personality or salary standpoint.

But it would be madness to go into the season with Greenwood as our only decent RW. He is young and is guaranteed to be inconsistent. Mata or Lingard as our RW backup is recipe for disaster...
There are dozens of better options if you are so desperate for a RW.

Even Perisic would be 100x better. The guy is a shithouse but gives his 100% for his team and teammates.
 

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Thought we'd go for him as we clearly can't afford Sancho, the agent fees are too much, we might have made progress but we haven't agreed on them. We fed that 'progressed' line to appease the fans for now.
 

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An ageing, money-centric, unmotivated, crock with no match sharpness?
What could possibly go wrong?
124 days out in 2 years.. Pogba? Over 160 in a year

Unmotivated? I don’t get that

Talk to Jose about fitnesses

Money centric... Isn’t it real who pays the money?
 

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AS is absolutely terrible for Madrid news or any team in general. It’s basically a football tabloid. It’s the equivalent of you taking the Sun’s reporting on wages as gospel.
MARCA reports that Bale's wages are €17m NET, i.e. after taxes, meaning his gross wages are substantially higher

Everyone in Spain reports €15m or so NET
 

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Because they are muppets.

Once he inevitably fails, they can muppet about the next guy and call Woodward and Judge names for being incompetent.

Rinse, repeat.
This is what I've been saying throughout this thread. Some people on these boards don't have any right to call Woodward incompetent considering their questionable opinions about this whole Bale thing.

One would think after going through a whole list of stars rejects(or not) from other teams who came here to flop(Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez etc) people would have learned and wised up by now but I guess the Muppet in some people is just too strong to contain.

We've literally just came out of getting rid of Sanchez and his massive wages, literally just a few weeks ago. Plenty of people including same muppets championing for Bale currently were praying for anyone to take Sanchez off our hands yet as soon as that episode is over people want to turn around and try to get into another similar situation, accommodating past it players and gifting them high wages. This is beyond fickle.

Some posters should honestly never go around bad mouthing Ed and lambasting him for his poor choice and incompetence considering they've shown and proven themselves far worse if we take into account the things they've written in this thread and their willingness to welcome Bale the crock.
 
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