Dortmund nearly got relegated since that CL final. They aren’t always 2nd in Germany either. Not nearly as stable as some make out.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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If We hadn’t qualified for the CL on the last day of the season we’d be about £60 million worse off (CL tv money and Adidas sponsorship decreasing). From an accountancy point of view surely they would have modelled on a worse case scenario basis. So it begs the question, why isn’t this “free money” being used to strengthen the team?
The corona excuse is not going to cut it with fans when clubs like a Liverpool and even Aston fecking Villa are spending big.
On a side note, Solskjaer needs to grow a pair of balls and stop kissing his bosses arse! His recent comments are both embarrassing and pathetic. Woodward and the Goblins will not protect him when results are shit.
The corona excuse is not going to cut it with fans when clubs like a Liverpool and even Aston fecking Villa are spending big.
On a side note, Solskjaer needs to grow a pair of balls and stop kissing his bosses arse! His recent comments are both embarrassing and pathetic. Woodward and the Goblins will not protect him when results are shit.
Surely one issue is the longer you leave it to eventually pay up what they wanted all along you've probably pissed off Dortmund so much that they won't sell anyway, like if you just put up the money in the last few days of the window it leaves them no time to replace him. They aren't under any actual obligation to sell at the asking price from what we hear (ie. it's not a release clause).
Our strategy doesn't really make sense at this point, either we're going to pay up what they want, if so what are we really waiting for, or we aren't, and should have shut it down by now, something we also very clearly haven't done.
At this point our entire transfer window is just meandering. At the start of the window most fans probably wanted Sancho but it wasn't a case of Sancho or bust, you could have feasibly had a successful window without signing Sancho, now it's pretty clear the entire success of our window hinges on signing Sancho or not, and it very much is Sancho or bust, a situation we have entirely created ourselves.
Our strategy doesn't really make sense at this point, either we're going to pay up what they want, if so what are we really waiting for, or we aren't, and should have shut it down by now, something we also very clearly haven't done.
At this point our entire transfer window is just meandering. At the start of the window most fans probably wanted Sancho but it wasn't a case of Sancho or bust, you could have feasibly had a successful window without signing Sancho, now it's pretty clear the entire success of our window hinges on signing Sancho or not, and it very much is Sancho or bust, a situation we have entirely created ourselves.
Well, Woodard and the Goblins did protect Ole when our form was pretty awful leading up to xmas.
Who are the goblins?
Yeah, and it’s funny how a lot of United fans (particularly on here) belittle United. Apparently we’re shite at everything! Wouldn’t it be good just to see what happens at the end of the window before deciding how terribly run we are..?
You dont need to wait till a transfer window closes to see how poorly run we are.
Even if we sign Sancho its poor and its less to do with signings anyway
They’re like the Pixies but not as good.
Slightly easier for them to qualify every season though isn’t it? Celtic qualify every season too.
It’s ridiculous. We have only had to sell one player to Madrid, and that was Ronaldo. Even then, we kept him for a year longer.
Apart from that, we’ve used them as an outlet for players we no longer wanted, as you’ve already pointed out.
The Glazers.
Woodward's comments about being responsible with our resources isn't too encouraging
Exactly. That’s hardly a barometer.
He's not even as good as Dan James
Wow, we really are scraping the barrel now. It’s interesting to me that Gray barely gets a look in at Leicester after all these years.
This is all incredibly boring now.
Clearly, it's had to know how much of this is true or press rubbish, but it can't a coincidence that the last three transfer windows we've had deals drag out for months. Dortmund have a young player who's on a long contract. They know they'll sell him next summer if they want to. United's alleged stance of "your price is too high" is pointless unless the player agitates for the moved, which he hasn't.
Either pay up, or move on.
Clearly, it's had to know how much of this is true or press rubbish, but it can't a coincidence that the last three transfer windows we've had deals drag out for months. Dortmund have a young player who's on a long contract. They know they'll sell him next summer if they want to. United's alleged stance of "your price is too high" is pointless unless the player agitates for the moved, which he hasn't.
Either pay up, or move on.
There was a guy back in the day on Talking Reds that used to always say he’d rather have Damari Gray than Martial and that Damari was a far better player. 7isthemagicnumber was his name. I know he’s on here somewhere. I’d rather bring Bebe or Obertan back myself mind.
Jesus fecking christ.
It's not "free money" just because a worst case scenario will have resulted in no CL qualification.
The difference is how the deals are structured, The Athetlic claim that Liverpool are paying feck all up front for Thiago, the rest is structured as future payments.Dortmund are, according to every available piece of information, isn't interested in a long term structured deal, they want the vast majority up front. There's a reason Liverpool didn't go for Werner's release clause, because they would've had to fork it out up front, which they can't.
There's nothing wrong with Ole's comments, any fecktard that's able to read between the lines will easily see that he's making it perfectly clear that he wants the signings to be made. Fortunately, he's not a fecking moron so he understands that no good will come out of him lashing out in public ala Mourinho.
At least the Utd board is really relaxed about our transfer activity...
The free money comment was tongue in cheek obviously.
I see you're a member since 05, beautiful as off now to go through you're posts and see do you say the same thing about Fergie when he was licking the crinkles of their arses calling them "great owners/wonderful people" or remember how he defended them from 09 when then stopped spending money on top players with his now infamous bullshit, "no value in the market" cringe worthy statements.
No Sancho this season guys.
Where's that James Ducker Tweet, can't seem to find it on his page
And yet we still haven't publicly ruled out signing Sancho in this window.
If United cant afford him ,or are naturally unwilling to spend 100 million on one individual in this climate, then just call it off.
If we do end up paying the £108m fee I'm not sure how I'll feel.
Sancho is great, and fills an obvious gap in our side. But given that Jota, Werner, and Thiago are going to be purchased for the same price, combined, it looks a bit ridiculous.
Sancho is great, and fills an obvious gap in our side. But given that Jota, Werner, and Thiago are going to be purchased for the same price, combined, it looks a bit ridiculous.
Same here.
The season they „nearly“ got relegated, they still came in 7th. They are as stable as you can be.
I think this is what United are saying. They're secretly hoping a Neymar moves to Barcelona for €90m so they can say "We told you your price was inflated in the current market".
Well we almost got relegated last season and finished 3rd so it happens.
I love Fergie. The greatest of all time. But his comments regarding the Glazers pissed me off massively.The Glazers are fecking parasites and if you want to go back and read 15 years of my posts, you’ll see my stance has not changed at all.
The rest of it as well? Great.
Liverpool getting Jota means there is no other big team for Sarr. He`s probably the only Sancho alternative I`d welcome as he`d be the perfect winger to use for the local cup games as Greenwood plays in the PL and CL Sarr plus Telles would soften the blow on not getting Sancho
Yeah, I just mean they aren’t a guaranteed CL team every year. Lots of competition now Leipzig and Frankfurt have stepped up in recent years.
I don’t buy into the theory that clubs “get pissed off”. These deals aren’t personal. They’re a financial negotiation between two business entities for the sale of an asset. The rest is window dressing for, or by, the media.
Our window does indeed now hinge on Sancho because at this point most players we’ve been linked with have either moved elsewhere or been shut down. Except Sancho. Publicly at least he’s the last deal standing.
This all or nothing strategy is risky but clever. If we get him now it will be viewed as a successful window even though we did limited business. If we don’t get him we’ll have to endure tiresome Ed and Glazer Out rants until the next window opens.
It’s literally just a throw away comment in an article he wrote. I don’t think it’s him saying he thinks we will pay the 108 mill, more talking about our transfer window and how we ‘may yet pay the 108 mill [but who knows]’
The oddity is that most people would agree that £108 million in the 'current climate' is too much, no big deal, no other club is coming close to spending that much on a single transfer, so why should we, etc.
It's all this stringing along that is winding people up now, if we just got a defender and attacking player of some description, even on short deals, then fine, we would have a very good first team, and potentially a bit of decent backup.
But as it stands I genuinely do not understand what they are up to leaving us short as the season starts, and letting this drag so long.
It's all this stringing along that is winding people up now, if we just got a defender and attacking player of some description, even on short deals, then fine, we would have a very good first team, and potentially a bit of decent backup.
But as it stands I genuinely do not understand what they are up to leaving us short as the season starts, and letting this drag so long.
He bigs up uniteds financial might and people keep quoting him years on every time we overspend on a player. He plays down our financial might and it means we aren’t going to spend anything.
No you seem genuine more than enough for me to take you're word, only reason I stated that, was I seen many say the same about Ole, but tend to give Fergie a free pass on it and that pisses me off.
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