Massimiliano Allegri targets Manchester United job

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Allegri would be a disaster. He'd try really hard for 1 year, then like all Italian managers, he would down tools in his second season until we paid him 20 million to split. Then he'd retire where he's most happy, in charge of AC Milan or Napoli, with an extra 20 million in his bank for 1 years work
Not sure if this deserves to go in the funny feelings about football thread or the facts about football that shouldn’t be but are true thread.
 

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Didn’t he quit which is why they needed a new manager in the first place? Why would he go back?
 

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Didn’t he quit which is why they needed a new manager in the first place? Why would he go back?
Why not?

Also this is common in Serie A, there are managers who are sacked by same club twice in the same season.
 

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This is better for Juventus & Ronaldo than Sarri if true.
 

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Sarri dont do enough with the squad he has. Did a decent job at Napoli but thats about it. Wouldnt be suprised if Allegri is back in Juve before summer.
 

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Go check Twitter.

YuriiShevchenko/status/1307586092711972864

Someone save him from doing that.
 

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Christ lads it's only been ONE GAME. SAF definitely would have gotten sacked in his second season with you lot.
 

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Go check Twitter.

YuriiShevchenko/status/1307586092711972864

Someone save him from doing that.
He's probably enjoying himself. Good for him. He'll get a good job soon.
 

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FOR feckS SAKES. Why can’t some of our dim supporters realize that this is a Woodward and club issue and not anything to do with Ole. He is a club man and trying to do the right things is and being failed by Woodward and the board.
 
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Sacking Ole and appointing Allegri! Why? What's the point? The club has tried this and it hasn't worked. The club has to give a manager sometime and some proper finances to undo the.mistakes of the past. The did it to Van Gaal and to Mourinho they have to really think this one through before getting rid of Ole. Whoever takes the team forward has to be for the long term and they can't do to them what they have done to others and would be doing to Ole. If the club does get Ole the players he wants and he fails, Ok he deffo isn't good enough, but not giving him the player the squad needs then blaming him for failing is Wrong.
 

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FOR feckS SAKES. Why can’t some of our dim supporters realize that this is a Woodward and club issue and not anything to do with Ole. He is a club man and trying to do the right things is and being failed by Woodward and the board.
No, you are a spoiled cnut and you need to leave them Glazers alone...
 

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Sacking Ole and appointing Allegri! Why? What's the point? The club has tried this and it hasn't worked. The club has to give a manager sometime and some proper finances to undo the.mistakes of the past. The did it to Van Gaal and to Mourinho they have to really think this one through before getting rid of Ole. Whoever takes the team forward has to be for the long term and they can't do to them what they have done to others and would be doing to Ole. If the club does get Ole the players he wants and he fails, Ok he deffo isn't good enough, but not giving him the player the squad needs then blaming him for failing is Wrong.
Allegri is streets ahead of Ole, I presume that would be the point.
 

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Managers talking to Moyes, LvG, and Mou and learned about the severance packages.
 

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Christ lads it's only been ONE GAME. SAF definitely would have gotten sacked in his second season with you lot.
Do you really think we will win against Brighton ? After that its Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton.
 

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Allegri is streets ahead of Ole, I presume that would be the point.
Yes but Allegri would fail like Ole and Van Gaal and Jose if the board continues in the transfer market as they have. You can bring in Klopp or Pep but if they're stuck with the same squad and not given the players THEY want to strengthen the squad the change in fortune will be minimal.
 

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Do you really think we will win against Brighton ? After that its Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton.
Holy shit i didnt realize how brutal our initial run of games is. Seems like everything s ripe for a total collapse. But im trying to stay optimistic that are players are likely to do well in the big games like last season.
 

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Yes but Allegri would fail like Ole and Van Gaal and Jose if the board continues in the transfer market as they have. You can bring in Klopp or Pep but if they're stuck with the same squad and not given the players THEY want to strengthen the squad the change in fortune will be minimal.
I don't think this is really true. Woodward and the board have been plenty willing to spend lots and lots of money on players the manager has wanted. The bigger issues are that (a) Woodward has no meaningful football knowledge whatsoever and seems uninterested in hiring DoF, so that level of the club cannot provide a true footballing direction and therefore (b) you need to basically concentrate the football decision making with a strong manager with a good grasp on current trends in the game and a very strong sense of the football he wants to play and the qualities players will need to play that football at each position.

I'm not sure that Allegri is the answer but I am pretty sure Ole isn't either.
 

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I can't see Allegri will make any difference when both LVG and Mou failed in Man United. OGS probably is not the best tactican but he is not the main issue, but everyone probably knows that by now.
 

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Whilst I fully appreciate that Woodward is the bigger problem, he isn't the only problem.

Ole has short comings inspite of Woodward, not because of him.

Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly:

Would any of Liv, City, Chel, Spurs and Arsenal appoint Ole as permanent manager tomorrow were they to have a vacancy and he was available?
 

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Whilst I fully appreciate that Woodward is the bigger problem, he isn't the only problem.

Ole has short comings inspite of Woodward, not because of him.

Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly:

Would any of Liv, City, Chel, Spurs and Arsenal appoint Ole as permanent manager tomorrow were they to have a vacancy and he was available?
Is Ole a Liv, City, Chel, Spurs and Arsenal legend though? Does he know the fabric of those clubs well?

I mean Arsenal gave Arteta a job - his first job as manager, so let's not go overboard. Chelsea did the same with Frank. Both are less proven than Ole.
 

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Whilst I fully appreciate that Woodward is the bigger problem, he isn't the only problem.

Ole has short comings inspite of Woodward, not because of him.

Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly:

Would any of Liv, City, Chel, Spurs and Arsenal appoint Ole as permanent manager tomorrow were they to have a vacancy and he was available?
chelsea and Arsenal appointed Lampard and Arteta respectively, so, yes they would
 

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We have a manager. He got us 3rd place and some brilliant results in his first full season. He got to 3 semi finals. Get behind him.
 

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Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly:

Would any of Liv, City, Chel, Spurs and Arsenal appoint Ole as permanent manager tomorrow were they to have a vacancy and he was available?
Chelsea has already appointed Lampard, without any big achievements, Arsenal with Arteta. And Liverpool could potentially appoint Gerrard if Klopp leaves the team in good condition.
If the support system surrounding the manager is excellent, then it can work well.
 

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Chelsea has already appointed Lampard, without any big achievements, Arsenal with Arteta. And Liverpool could potentially appoint Gerrard if Klopp leaves the team in good condition.
If the support system surrounding the manager is excellent, then it can work well.
Arteta impressed me more so far with his work in Arsenal. The cultural and mentality issue in arsenal are not easy to deal with. He earned himself a promotion from head coach to manager in a year. Top 6 this year would be good with the resource he has. On the other side Lampard and OGS need to make top 4 with the resources they have.
 

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Has anyone in this thread told Massimiliano to bugger off yet?

Happy to take one for the team.
 

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Arteta impressed me more so far with his work in Arsenal. The cultural and mentality issue in arsenal are not easy to deal with. He earned himself a promotion from head coach to manager in a year. Top 6 this year would be good with the resource he has. On the other side Lampard and OGS need to make top 4 with the resources they have.
the resources OGS has been given this summer is not tantamount to top 4 if you ask me.

we should not expect top 4 because we got it last year.
 

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I don't think this is really true. Woodward and the board have been plenty willing to spend lots and lots of money on players the manager has wanted. The bigger issues are that (a) Woodward has no meaningful football knowledge whatsoever and seems uninterested in hiring DoF, so that level of the club cannot provide a true footballing direction and therefore (b) you need to basically concentrate the football decision making with a strong manager with a good grasp on current trends in the game and a very strong sense of the football he wants to play and the qualities players will need to play that football at each position.

I'm not sure that Allegri is the answer but I am pretty sure Ole isn't either.
I don't know what you are arguing for.@Colin Clarke has told you that any manager would face the same issues faced by Jose, Van Gaal,Moyes and Ole.

He is not talking about money, but our recruitment team who will not relinquish their role to someone good to do the job. Thats the main issue. Negotiators failing to seal deals.
 

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We have a manager. He got us 3rd place and some brilliant results in his first full season. He got to 3 semi finals. Get behind him.
Agreed. Ole's not the best manager in the game, but at this moment in time he should be backed. The problem is elsewhere.
 

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Not a big fan of Ole but feck me I’d rather have Ole at the club for the next 20 years than Massimo fecking Allegri with his shit on a stick football . And no I don’t wanna hear about the “he’s won trophies “ argument.
 
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