Pogba's comments just show his mindset, Pogba has more chance of playing with Real Mallorca than Real Madrid, the question is whether Ole has the backbone to do the same as Arteta did with Ozil, firstly bench the clown and if he doesn't react positively, bin him totally. If it doesn't and he keeps picking him, Ole is gone by Christmas, if the club don't back him on this stance, we know we definitely know we are more interested in selling jerseys etc. than winning trophies.
How long are we willing to take Pogba's insolance?
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Ok fair enough. As long as you are consistent then no worries. It just doesn't really bother me
You can't sell him now, you won't get any decent offer in Jan. And worse, RM is unlikely to come in with a respectful offer next summer. Perhaps the thread should be changed to "Should we consider letting Pogba leave for 20m or less...."
The way I see this thread is all the Pogba out/haters posting in one spot.
For the calm heads, don't bother convincing these lot...just sit back.
Keep going, lads.
For the calm heads, don't bother convincing these lot...just sit back.
Keep going, lads.
He thinks he’s good enough to play for Madrid? 
Yes, he said that. After mentioning his dream to play for Madrid.
We'll leave it there, you believe one thing, I believe another. That's enough. We're not gonna convince each other.
Not very surprisingly, press reporting that Madrid aren't interested. Hopefully he thinks kettering is a pretty place...
Casemiro, Valverde & Kroos. If you ask me, Real is missing Pogba type for the final finishing touch in their midfield. I'll be very surprised if Real managed by Zidane isn't in for Pogba who will cost cheap next year. Although it will depend on how much money they have for next year transfer window, no money then I can see them not going for Pogba.
He’s on his way, been awful since about Bournemouth at home.
Honestly, the sooner Pogba is booted out of the club, the better. He's a disgrace to the badge & shirt & has been since shortly after he came back to the club-nightmare with a colossal ego.
As I see it the club don’t look like they are willing to commit another five years to Pogba, rightly so many of you will say, I may not disagree.
So why the outcry ? When you read the whole script and not just the headline....it looks like the club aren’t committing to Pogba. We have a years extension which will allow us to get a fee for him in the summer without committing to another 40 million in wages and we will get 40/50 million for him.
That being the case I don’t see the issue here? The club aren’t willing to commit (rightly so you will all shout) but Pogba must commit ?
I’d suggest the truth lies in what Pogba actually said....ie he wants to extend his contract and the club haven’t talked to him about it yet. He would also love to play for Real Madrid like all players. His next contract, or lack of will determine that.
If he really wanted to leave he would already be saying he doesn’t want to discuss a new contract and be running this current one down, not the club doing that.
But don’t let reality get in the way of emotion.
So why the outcry ? When you read the whole script and not just the headline....it looks like the club aren’t committing to Pogba. We have a years extension which will allow us to get a fee for him in the summer without committing to another 40 million in wages and we will get 40/50 million for him.
That being the case I don’t see the issue here? The club aren’t willing to commit (rightly so you will all shout) but Pogba must commit ?
I’d suggest the truth lies in what Pogba actually said....ie he wants to extend his contract and the club haven’t talked to him about it yet. He would also love to play for Real Madrid like all players. His next contract, or lack of will determine that.
If he really wanted to leave he would already be saying he doesn’t want to discuss a new contract and be running this current one down, not the club doing that.
But don’t let reality get in the way of emotion.
Ok, sorry picked you up wrong.Are you feeling ok?
What was I moaning about?
You said he punished Rooney and I was arguing against that. I didn't come in here to moan about Fergie
Most top players are essentially very rich talented 10 year olds who are led from their nose by greedy agents
Every footballer knows what they're doing when they say such things. It's to create a fuss so you're more likely to be allowed to leave.
If Ole really wants to build a tight unit of a team then Pogba should be gone. I think he would have been this summer if not for covid.
If Ole really wants to build a tight unit of a team then Pogba should be gone. I think he would have been this summer if not for covid.
I would rather take Camavinga for 60-70 mil euros than an primadonna like Pogba at 29 for free.
We already have Casemiro, Valverde, Kroos, Ødegaard, Modric and if we get Camavinga we have 3 players for 6 position. Believe it or not 35 years old Modric is better than Pogba. I watch both United and Madrid games.
Especially when you see the leaked voice note of Bruno at Lisbon. He much be sick to his stomach with some of our players, Pogba especially.
Pogba has been saved from the fans by Covid. He'd be boo'd off again next game.
And unfortunately Pogba seems to do it every time he’s away from the club, people arguing that what else was he supposed to say are being very naive in my opinion, there’s many ways he could of deflected that question away.
I could perhaps understand some of pogbas sentiments if he was dragging the team through games but I genuinely can’t remember when he had a good game for United and some of his performances have been lacklustre at best.
I hope DVB now gets his chance over Pogba because whether it’s his attitude or fitness Pogba needs to be benched until he gets on top of whichever issue it is that’s affecting him.
Insolence.
Yep. And it's been posted about before how bad it is for someone like Pogba to be one of the top earners.
Pogba needs to be benched asap.. for football reasons alone.. not to mention for showing a lack of respect towards the club and the supporters.. His attitude will never change and i for one will always regard his time at United on the whole as a failure who flattered to deceive.. #POGBAOUT
You want to speak of context?
Ronaldo was a loyal servant of the club for many years, becoming the best player in the world during the period and winning everything.
It was only after that he really pushed for a move, his love for MUFC was genuine, but he dreamed of playing for RM beforehand, and you can't really compete with a childhood dream that lingers on after a player has done everything possible in your club.
In his last season it was clear he lacked that additional motivation, but still made a world class act.
He was bought for peanuts and was sold for a world record fee. He brings the fondest of memories. Pogba will end up being the exactly opposite.
So, in context, what Ronaldo said, and did, was sincere and natural.
And again, in context, Pogba's sweet words about MUFC were clearly a misdirection from what he said before.
Would love to see him go this season but can envisage him staying because either ed will give him a massive new contract or he will want more than clubs are willing to pay for a player with one year left on his contract rather than pricing him to sell
I wonder how long van der beek will be happy to sit on the bench and watch pogba playing like shit
I wonder how long van der beek will be happy to sit on the bench and watch pogba playing like shit
The swimming pool has two slides. Two!
I think you’ve got this wrong mate. This thread is where we say nasty stuff about Pogba.
Oh man, one of the most shambolic defenders I've ever seen, but can't accuse him of being toxic or lazy.
Depends on what you consider as being toxic, I guess. I can’t really call someone who asks for a transfer to Liverpool unproblematic.
Shambolic? He was quality for us until he wanted to join you know who.
I would actually look to shift Pogba off now and I say that as someone who has been a massive fan of his and defended him to the death. The issue is the circus around him just breeds further negativity and frankly I won’t think he brings great balance to the side these days.
That being said anyone who thinks he wouldn’t be a massive success at Madrid is miles off the mark in my opinion. He’s an absolutely class player who will come alive when he’s surrounded by genuine quality like at Madrid. I think he’s more likely to be a Zidane figure than flop there.
That being said anyone who thinks he wouldn’t be a massive success at Madrid is miles off the mark in my opinion. He’s an absolutely class player who will come alive when he’s surrounded by genuine quality like at Madrid. I think he’s more likely to be a Zidane figure than flop there.
Did someone really use Heinze as an example? A player who tried everything to move to Liverpool....before joining Madrid? He was also quite poor at football.
They are not interested in that part. They just jump on negative vibes like journos
Says it literally days after the disaster window just closed. No need
Sounds like pissing around with contract renewals to me. Don't know what this club executive is playing at.
Has this guy ever come close to producing what Toure did for City....
No question mark because no answer is needed.
Regardless of arguments to the effect of he hasn't been played correctly in a functioning system etc, I can not remember any period of consistency from him; no standing out from the crowd other than a pinged ball once in a while. Rather, more dispossessions in dangerous areas, shots straight at the keeper or clearly wide, generally slowing down play.
Someone with his potential and inherent quality should at least be standing out a few times a season.
Any partial confirmation bias aside, it is surely definite that he has not been worth the financial outlay one iota.
And in true United style, a player bought with an eye on future profit, at worst break even, is going to go on a free or be sold on the cheap with our ass bent over a barrel.
That's right moneymen....slap Jones on a 5 year deal...to protect value, Lingard, Rojo et al...but allow your prized asset to run down.
I know Ferguson said we wanted to be like Barcelona, but surely this was not the way he meant.
No question mark because no answer is needed.
Regardless of arguments to the effect of he hasn't been played correctly in a functioning system etc, I can not remember any period of consistency from him; no standing out from the crowd other than a pinged ball once in a while. Rather, more dispossessions in dangerous areas, shots straight at the keeper or clearly wide, generally slowing down play.
Someone with his potential and inherent quality should at least be standing out a few times a season.
Any partial confirmation bias aside, it is surely definite that he has not been worth the financial outlay one iota.
And in true United style, a player bought with an eye on future profit, at worst break even, is going to go on a free or be sold on the cheap with our ass bent over a barrel.
That's right moneymen....slap Jones on a 5 year deal...to protect value, Lingard, Rojo et al...but allow your prized asset to run down.
I know Ferguson said we wanted to be like Barcelona, but surely this was not the way he meant.
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It's very easy to forget these are all fairly young blokes, and that fairly young blokes are often immature clowns.
Add in living in a bubble of adulation and insane wages, knowing a few weeks into your big contract that you're made for life, and it's probably more surprising that any of them make it through in a balanced way.
sell him and play van de beek. Can’t be worse thank pogba. Saw some signs of a very good player in van de beek since joining. At least his movement is better. Pogba seems to be heavy on the pitch.
Who's talking about convincing. You said you wanted him to say these things and I just pointed them out to you.
Watch the UCL semifinals against AC Milan and Argentina in WC2006. Get back to me later.
Yarn. He’s been very inconsistent for us and he’d be the 1st to admit it. To many knee jerk reactions before reading the full interview.
I’ve read worse from our legend who left for RM in the past.
I’m not Pogba’s biggest fan but I’m definitely not going to back a witch hunt which I think is what this is....
I’ve read worse from our legend who left for RM in the past.
I’m not Pogba’s biggest fan but I’m definitely not going to back a witch hunt which I think is what this is....