Sport Witness: Man United row between Bruno Fernandes and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer dismissed as 'lies'
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Ed obviously! Every signing that doesn't work is Ed signing. That's how it works
I don’t think Bruno is that kind of player. Maybe hes mad because despite all that’s gone on since July Ole won’t drop Pogba or Maguire or tell the players to actually fecking press at any stage... anyone would be mad looking at that “effort” over the last few months. Bruno runs himself into the ground and stands up to be counted every single game. That’s the least you can do.
Probably worth updating the thread title, because a more credible source than Castles or Lopes (Laurie Whitwell, Athletic) confirmed a few days ago that it's actually the case with several players. Not just Bruno.
Castles also says the same, that other players believe this too.
Castles also says the same, that other players believe this too.
But hasn't it been "Dismissed as Lies"?! Which came first?! and how can I possibly bring myself to care?
Idk, difficult to trust journalism nowadays... well, ever.
Well at least this time around, Ole's got much more tact than to start a public pissing contest with him and attempt to turn the fanbase against him
We are a shambles, yet again
The half time bust up I think was dismissed, but the feeling in the dressing room of doubt toward Ole is genuine.
I hope Pogba doesn’t somehow survive yet another manager.
I would accept your stance only if he had actually won something, somwhere, until that point he's as good as Moyes at Everton or Allardyce at Bolton or even Redknapp at Spurs.
He has no credentials to prove he can win, spend a big budget effectively, keep a team at the top, even perform well against the big 6, or manage big stars/egos.
Klopp isn't an anomoly, hes a top class manager.
Pep has spent, yes, but hes won.
Conte didnt spend fortunes and he instantly won.
Leicester was a freak season, but Poch couldnt get his team to win when all other teams were rebuilding and/or faultering. It was theirs to win.
I can acknowledge he's proven himself as a good manager.
He hasn't proven he can win or take a team over that final hurdle. Thats what United need.
Plus, they just werent very entertaining.
Yeah, update it to "Even Ole has lost faith in erm Ole, and Fernandes is the only player trying to convince him to carry on"
He's only had 2?
Ha.
Think the gyst is they don't dislike him, but they don't think he's actually much good as a manager. Shock horror
Well.. if he really has then he can feck off back to Sporting.
That said.. its almost certainly bs.
That said.. its almost certainly bs.
No surprise that the only actual winner in that dressing room is the first to break cover.
I bet he’s equally sick of the cliques ole clearly panders too as well.
I bet he’s equally sick of the cliques ole clearly panders too as well.
Absolute boll@x
Literally every threadThread : Bruno Fernandes loses faith in OGS
Red Caf : Its Pogba’s fault
This place
Maybe the players should lose faith in themselves instead, they're piss poor.
Wtf
My question was what’s wrong with being Ole out. I want the manager sacked but not to the point where I want players admonishing him in public. Don’t jump to conclusions too quickly.any other inside information from the dressing room? quick, before you're exposed!
It’s the second manager he’s letting down. His last few “performances” have been amongst the worst I’ve seen from a utd player in 30 plus years following. Jogging around laughing And showboating and then issues yet another come and get me to Madrid on the international break. I don’t know how people still defend his performances. He’s a luxury Ole can’t afford to persist with if he wants to keep his job.Thread : Bruno Fernandes loses faith in OGS
Red Caf : Its Pogba’s fault
This place
sorry for going off track!
There is no smoke without fire. Too many of these stories coming out from reputable sources now to not have something behind it.
Ole? What has Bruno won that's worth mentioning?
This seems like click bait. I cannot see this being true in all honesty. A player will question things to the manager but you do not see them coming out and telling a journalist that faith is lost 6 months after joining the club.
Et tu Bruno.
(close enough, right?)
(close enough, right?)
Fair enough, took it the wrong way, apologies.Wtf
It is what happens when you have a manager who is out of his depth, dumping all the burden on a single player.
The thing is Fernandes has to do almost everything for us to score a goal. No Fernandes, no goal. We are far too reliant on him to do something. I am not feeling sorry for him, but I can understand why you would start getting annoyed if you are the only one actually being productive.
He has contributed to 50% of our goals through goals or assists since we signed him, and that is not including key passes or playing a major part in other goals. It is ridiculously high. Even De Bruyne only contributes to 30% of Man City's goals through goals and assists, and he is the best creative midfielder in the world.
The thing is Fernandes has to do almost everything for us to score a goal. No Fernandes, no goal. We are far too reliant on him to do something. I am not feeling sorry for him, but I can understand why you would start getting annoyed if you are the only one actually being productive.
He has contributed to 50% of our goals through goals or assists since we signed him, and that is not including key passes or playing a major part in other goals. It is ridiculously high. Even De Bruyne only contributes to 30% of Man City's goals through goals and assists, and he is the best creative midfielder in the world.
If the players thought he wasn't much good as a Manager he'd have lost the players by now, and there's no sign of that, yet
I'm sure there's something in it, but I expect its being sensationalised to the very maximum. These things happen weekly in dressing rooms.
I said our squad is shit - you disgree but can only name 6 good players. Of those six players, I would think only Bruno would be considered a top player by the majority of people (Greenwood has the potential to be, but isn't now).
It's the worst squad United have had in 40 years.
Apart from every league game this season anyway.
There's no sign he's lost the players? There is ample signs, everywhere
There's another thread saying this is not true? Maybe merge the two threads?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/spo...ole-gunnar-solskjaer-dismissed-as-lies.458157
@Raoul
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/spo...ole-gunnar-solskjaer-dismissed-as-lies.458157
@Raoul
It’s a damn sight better than anything we’ve had since 2013.
No its not.
We got hammered at home to Spurs 6-1 in a lifeless no fight pathetic display that was just unbelievably poor, I'd say there were a few clues in that performance he might have lost the players a bit.
I wouldn't trust Castles or his cronies. He is a Jose's mouthpiece and is bitter how Jose was sacked and has been mocking Ole since he took over.
I don't get it. Hasn't Lopes just linked to Baldy's article so he's just jumping on the Ole bashing bandwagon?
If this is true then Bruno can feck off.