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They were always planning on playing him from the start. It's why he chose Dortmund.It was against lower league opposition obviously, but I think he did rather well for his first real match for Dortmund. Maybe he can help the first team a lot sooner than expected.
Dortmund for sure needed his player type more than United, but between Witsel, Can, Delaney, Brandt, Reyna or even Dahoud who all want to play in CM it wasn't a foregone conclusion that he would start immediate and I wouldn't be surprised either if Favre went back to more experienced options for the time being when the opponents are of higher quality in the upcoming games.They were always planning on playing him from the start. It's why he chose Dortmund.
Reyna has been playing on the wings/attacking forward and Can has been playing centre back during pre season. So already that leaves a lot less competition. Bellingham isn't the average 17 year old. He is ready to play already in their starting 11.Dortmund for sure needed his player type more than United, but between Witsel, Can, Delaney, Brandt, Reyna or even Dahoud who all want to play in CM it wasn't a foregone conclusion that he would start immediate and I wouldn't be surprised either if Favre went back to more experienced options for the time being when the opponents are of higher quality in the upcoming games.
Can has been playing as a CB during pre-season, because Favre played two seperate teams, so he needed two sets of CBs and because Zagadou is injured. The way it has played out at the moment neither he or Reyna are in direct competition with Bellingham, but if Zagadou was fit Can would probably be playing in midfield and if Favre was using a 433, like he tried all pre-season, then Reyna would probably compete for a CM spot as well.Reyna has been playing on the wings/attacking forward and Can has been playing centre back during pre season. So already that leaves a lot less competition. Bellingham isn't the average 17 year old. He is ready to play already in their starting 11.
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Playing like exactly how we need Pogba too. Sad.Tweet
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Haaland is English?!feck me. Dortmund keep getting ridiculous money out of English players.
Sancho - 100 million
Haaland - 100 million
Bellingham - 100 million???
Seems like this is the only way they can make money.
It's the only way the can somewhat cut the financial distance to Bayern. Commercially Bayern makes like way more money than any other team in the league but Dortmund is making a lot of money by buying young talented players and selling them for loads of money. The problem with this of course is that with all the money they make from sales they are also losing quality every time they sell one of their best young players so while financially this might be good for them, I don't think it will see them win any trophies as long as they have to run this business model, which in return will make them less attractive for bigger sponsoring contracts.feck me. Dortmund keep getting ridiculous money out of English players.
Sancho - 100 million
Haaland - 100 million
Bellingham - 100 million???
Seems like this is the only way they can make money.
In football terms kind of. Born in England so eligible for the English NT. I think the poster is being silly though.Haaland is English?!
Yes he was born in LeedsHaaland is English?!
I mean yeah, Norwegian nationality, played in Norway since he was 5. Is there a chance he might pick England NT? That would be fecking hilarious.In football terms kind of. Born in England so eligible for the English NT. I think the poster is being silly though.
He's Norwegian! You can't say Dortmund are profiteering off of English players and use Haaland as a fecking exampleYes he was born in Leeds
He can't switch anymore. Obviously sees himself as Norwegian..I mean yeah, Norwegian nationality, played in Norway since he was 5. Is there a chance he might pick England NT? That would be fecking hilarious.
No way he gets the game time as a 17 year old at United.Should have got him before Dortmund. They will rinse us for a fee now.
I was literally about to post this. Having considered the starts he's had tor Dortmund it was the correct choice for his career. There's a reason we will continually struggle for these breakthrough talents early on because clubs like Dortmund provide the perfect infrastructure for them to grow.No way he gets the game time as a 17 year old at United.
I didn’t use him as an example, simply stated where he was born. Which makes him EnglishHe's Norwegian! You can't say Dortmund are profiteering off of English players and use Haaland as a fecking example
Yes, a 17 year old putting out an apparently imperious display against a Bundesliga side is just so yaawwwwwwn. I''m fecking comatose just thinking about it. Simply reading those numbers makes me feel like I've just had a nightcap with Billy Cosby.Arminia Bielefeld .. top side.
He did ok in the championship.. him playing well against Arminia Bielefeld playing for Dortmunds first team really shouldnt be a surprise.
It's Dortmund's M.O.
Good side in a crap league. play talented youngsters. Inflate the value. Sell them on.
I'll be impressed when he controls a CL knockout game. Not when he makes 100 passes against a no name side.
Control a CL knockout game. You set the bar rather low I'd say...Arminia Bielefeld .. top side.
He did ok in the championship.. him playing well against Arminia Bielefeld playing for Dortmunds first team really shouldnt be a surprise.
It's Dortmund's M.O.
Good side in a crap league. play talented youngsters. Inflate the value. Sell them on.
I'll be impressed when he controls a CL knockout game. Not when he makes 100 passes against a no name side.
Not at 17.. but when he can, he'll probably be a player worth talking about.Control a CL knockout game. You set the bar rather low I'd say...
You can praise him in relation to his age. Nothing wrong with that. It's a good performance for his age. I don't think it's more elaborate than thatNot at 17.. but when he can, he'll probably be a player worth talking about.
There is a lot of overrating of players.. A lot of praise for not really doing anything.
Dortmund played a strong side against a newly promoted team, kept 75% of the ball and Hummels scored both their goals.
Obviously there is nothing bad about making 100 passes.. but hold the praise till he does something actually impressive.
I said CL knockout because Bayern are probably a tougher opponent than your average CL knockout side.
When was the last time a 17 year old midfielder controlled a CL knockout game?Not at 17.. but when he can, he'll probably be a player worth talking about.
There is a lot of overrating of young players.. A lot of praise for not really doing anything.
Dortmund played a strong side against a newly promoted team, kept 75% of the ball and Hummels scored both their goals.
Obviously there is nothing bad about making 100 passes.. but hold the praise till he does something actually impressive.
I said CL knockout because Bayern are probably a tougher opponent than your average CL knockout side.
He was born in Leeds I think but obviously plays for NorwayHaaland is English?!
We did try, seems he wanted first team footballShould have got him before Dortmund. They will rinse us for a fee now.
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Pogba has much more flair, and is more of a playmaker/CAM hybrid, who cna play deeper because of his immense passing. He could find a 80 yard pass over the whole pitch at 16, you could see his immense vision even back then. Bellingham is nowhere near that and simply he´s just a different type of player. He will be a good allround physical player and at 16 he´s got a good start to his career but let´s wait on him because there is always a chance he might be more of a Renato Sanches rather than "better version of Paul Pogba".He's playing just how we want Pogba to play in the midfield, and Pogba having the world class talent can if he wants, but Bellingham at 17 seemingly has more maturity than him.
He looks like he's going to be a top #8.
Pogba in his first years was so immensely talented and seemed destined for greatness, as does Bellingham, but in Pogba's case I think it's his mentality that won't allow it.Pogba has much more flair, and is more of a playmaker/CAM hybrid, who cna play deeper because of his immense passing. He could find a 80 yard pass over the whole pitch at 16, you could see his immense vision even back then. Bellingham is nowhere near that and simply he´s just a different type of player. He will be a good allround physical player and at 16 he´s got a good start to his career but let´s wait on him because there is always a chance he might be more of a Renato Sanches rather than "better version of Paul Pogba".
Clearly Bellingham got a chance to play senior football sooner than Pogba because he played for Birmingham where expectations were much lower than at united but once he can replicate what Pogba has done for Juve in his first few years, then we can judge him. Now it´s too soon and premature to shit your pants form 92% pass completion against Armenia fecking Bielefeld.