We were superb in those champions league games. Even your sort can't argue that.
Without those games, the whole site would rightly be calling for a sacking, as you can't get 1 point from 4 home games as United manager.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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Without those games, the whole site would rightly be calling for a sacking, as you can't get 1 point from 4 home games as United manager.
Bingo.
This thread never goes quiet. It is a floater.
In fairness @Sandikan, I think ANY manager in the World with this squad is capable of getting the occasional brilliant result.
Carrick or Phelan in charge would likely also get some cracking results, but consistency is the mark of a top manager, plain & simple.
They were calling them out because they personally attacked our manager after the draw to Chelsea. Not constructively crtiticised but attacked.
No. You give credit to both when we win. You criticize both when we lose.
Not the best but it is not end of the world. Win game in hand and we are 6 p from 1st position.
Agree.
When more than half your team are underperforming on a regular basis you have to look to the manager to get them out of it somehow. One or two players fine but not the whole team.
That's how most clubs are.
People will celebrate the wins themselves, but if you lose of course there's loads to debate on.
When you're United though, defeats are magnified in importance.
Everyone should just do what I do, change your vote depending on if we win or lose, then you won’t all have to argue. 
I think you’re being a bit overly sensitive here. I was simply commenting on the posters who are nowhere to be seen after a good result, and have a field day after we drop points. There’s plenty of them in here.
How noble of you.
Just not in the league.
So it is same when win win and when we lose? We are not seeing same things.When we win it's calm?
Did you miss the antics in here midweek. More fake news.
I’m firmly in the Ole out camp ever since he has been hired as a caretaker.
Didn’t post after the RB win, didn’t post I think after Chelsea’s draw either, won’t post after today’s loss either. For me it’s clear we aren’t going anywhere and some of Ole In camp are behind him no matter what so it makes the whole debate pointless.
Might just wait he’s officially sacked to visit this forum more often..
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Yes there is, it’s in this very long thread.You don't want to do the work because you know there is no evidence for the nonsense you are spouting.
Ah, of course there is...Yes there is, it’s in this very long thread.
Aye, I pointed this out earlier.
If we need to go making threads on a Manchester United manager when he wins a home CL group game, it says it all. It's so fecking small time. Sometimes it's like Ole is an adorable little puppy and when he wins he gets all this praise and patting on the back and when he loses, sure it's not his fault. I'll repeat, he's the manager of Manchester United!
This win the game in hand bullshit and we are ...that keeps appearing. How about we lose the game in hand, whats the excuse then?
And your sort thrives in mediocrity while being thrown the occasional bone of a "masterclass" innit?
Happy being my sort.
Firstly, football and Athletics don't go the same way. Football has way more variables than a 100m dash. If you want to give an analogy, you need to choose a better sport.
Secondly, If Bolt runs 9.65 this year and 9.6 the year after, but a competitor beats him in the 2nd race, I'm quite sure he'd be sad - the reason being that someone else improved more than him.
What is the point posting then? Did you see this place when we win some rare game. I posted after one of our win. Ole in brigade went crazy on me. Not on my post about style, subs and football stuff. They went directly ad hominem.
I do think that this thread is pointless though.
Because you see it from one side only. You refuse to see any flaws with him and are only concerned with belittling the other sides opinions.
I’ve always said the micro criticism Ole gets is bollocks. It is. There are some people blaming and some praising him for the same thing at times. It’s mad.
And I just don’t agree with 90% of the complaints about Ole. So much of what’s posted about him and the team is just not true. I should ignore that crap and mostly I do. But I’ve also defended Ole and said that you have to look across a whole season to understand the results and performances in context.
Last season we finished third. It’s possible we could do as well, or better, this season. But in my opinion he is now one more consecutive league defeat from getting the sack. It would be a shame but I think he needs to win the next game or he’s out.
If he does get sacked we’ll no doubt get Poch which I don’t think will go well at all.
And I just don’t agree with 90% of the complaints about Ole. So much of what’s posted about him and the team is just not true. I should ignore that crap and mostly I do. But I’ve also defended Ole and said that you have to look across a whole season to understand the results and performances in context.
Last season we finished third. It’s possible we could do as well, or better, this season. But in my opinion he is now one more consecutive league defeat from getting the sack. It would be a shame but I think he needs to win the next game or he’s out.
If he does get sacked we’ll no doubt get Poch which I don’t think will go well at all.
Besides a few, most people were content with last season and said he deserved another one. We admittedly had a rotten start to our PL campaign this year, but yeah, this is very much knee jerk.
Who is thriving in the mess we're in?!
I don't know how long you've been a United fan, but I'm certainly someone who remembers the top teams!
Like with Jose, it feels like Poch is a route we have to go down.
If only to stop it constantly being bandied about for years afterwards.
And when you have 3 managers "failing" before him, where two are world class, then you got to wonder is it managers or players?
People can debate without hiding like turtles when we win. There is a Anti-Solskjaer agenda here from many. No needing to deny that. Today wasn't good performence but we have to not go overboard.
Never say never with this board.
I'm with you, league has to come first and not cup competitions even though it's the CL. 6 points in 7 games, changing formation for every game is a recipes for disaster. 4 home games and no wins.
Like it or not lads & lasses Ole isn't good enough to be our manager so early on in his management career. How many matches does he need? He's had 100 matches and a few God games in CL doesn't cover up our league form.
So the Ole in brigade is angry that people aren't here slating ole after united wins games?
It is just strange how up and down we are. I guess there is a lack of clear tactics and coaching though to help the players when things get hard.
The problem with Ole is he seems to go on long runs one way or the other.
We're on another long run of shocking home runs now, and I'm not sure he'll solve it any time soon.
God no. We finally, FINALLY have to be progressive. Go with Rose, Nagelsmann or Hasenhütl.
To be fair I think Maguires just pleased to be at home. His 'away' form has been concerning especially in Europe.Interviewer: is home form a worry?
Maguire: no, it's not
Maguire in denial.
Champions league games can always create a hangover for the next league game. But that was something more worrying today.
You look at this game and you would think Arteta had been there 2 years and Ole was the novice! Arteta shouting cajoling his players praising and bollocking, meanwhile Ole once again sits in his seat with his head in his hands, woe is me. Arsenal as a team have come on leaps and bounds, meanwhile our expensive team looks as bereft of ideas as ever. Ole said we will see the real Utd now and he was telling the truth. Unless we play an ultra attacking team who leave us loads of space to run in, it looks like we havent a clue.
He got flaws. Like every other manager. Where have I said he didn't have flaws? I even said in matchthread he has to take blame for first half. It is about being rational when we talk about him.
When I watch them comment on Sky and imagine them managing us in the future I want to end it all.
That's not what knee jerk means. If it keeps happening, its not knee jerk is it? Because it's a repeated pattern.
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