2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Does this account for the final DeKalb tranche? Apart from that the math looks correct to me.
No one knows atm. The SOS site stopped updating and the ticker most sites rely on only update in periodical small batches with no info on where the count came from.
 

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Oooooooyyyffffff. I'm a wreck waiting for the results to come in. How sure are we that Arizona and Nevada are going to Biden at this point? Nevada seems extremely tight.
Nevada hasn’t changed in hours, they stated that they would be reporting tomorrow morning. Really nothing to read into in NV.

Multiple independent reports state that the votes aren’t there in AZ.
 

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Im always intrigued when I see mentions of Rogan and the fact that there is a fairly active thread on the Caf about him. Maybe its simply bc of this fact I haven't given him a fair review, but literally everyone I know who loves him/listens to him fervently is a staunch (far) right winger.
Maybe so. I'm on the right as well (except for the religious crap and the pro-life nonsense, I hold a libertarian view in that regard of live and let live) and I love his show. He has guests from every corner of the political spectrum and it's always a good listen. The comments on YouTube are usually a good laugh as well.
 

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What are the rules in Georgia pertaining to a recount? How close does it have to be?
 

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All right so Im a bit confused now- is GA a goner after all, squeeky bum time, or still pretty confident it ll end up blue? (in a way more concerned about ensuring a senate run off tbh).

Going to sleep soon so give me parting words that can make me sleep easy.
 

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Not getting elected to governor may have allowed Stacey Abrams to continue her important work in Georgia. Her loss may ultimately be the state’s win.
 

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All right so Im a bit confused now- is GA a goner after all, squeeky bum time, or still pretty confident it ll end up blue? (in a way more concerned about ensuring a senate run off tbh).

Going to sleep soon so give me parting words that can make me sleep easy.
Squeaky bum to it will be blue. Slight change Trump wins, but it’s mainly a distinction of how much Biden will win by.
 

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AP, Reuters, CBS/NBC for news. Joe Rogan is good for hearing both sides because he's having people on from both sides from Bernie to Alex Jones and he is calling them out when needed to so usually it's a good listen.
How is Joe Rogan unbiased? He has a right winger on pretty much every month just because he invited Bernie once doesn't mean he's a centrist. Compare the number of right wingers he's had on compared to figures from the left. Ben Shapiro, Peterson, Candace Owens, Akkad, the proud boys fella, Alex Jones, Milo.

You have shifted so far to the right that Joe fecking Rogan looks like a centrist to you.
 

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You mean Libcafe.
Stereotype much?

I know I'm on the wrong forum where there is a heavy liberal bias from non-US majority. It is basically a support group for people who share and encourage the same political beliefs while labeling and shutting down every thing that is not aligning with their political views as fake news.
What a load of rubbish. The Caf is very middle of the road. If it appears otherwise that way is only because the US has such a far right extremist political landscape. Only in the US is the idea that the quality and availability of health care should be determined by wealth and that thinking otherwise equates to soviet era communism.

I know the majority here probably never been to the US, so please try and get your news from other sources as well besides CNN and other left propaganda machines.
I'd say that a very large number of non-Americans on here have been to the states. For example, I go every year when there isn't a pandemic, to visit my son. I actually think the opposite is the problem in that people in the US don't travel enough, which contributes to the very insular outlook many have, which in turn allows your bizarrely right biased political landscape to appear normal.
 

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Stereotype much?



What a load of rubbish. The Caf is very middle of the road. If it appears otherwise that way is only because the US has such a far right extremist political landscape. Only in the US is the idea that the quality and availability of health care should be determined by wealth and that thinking otherwise equates to soviet era communism.



I'd say that a very large number of non-Americans on here have been to the states. For example, I go every year when there isn't a pandemic, to visit my son. I actually think the opposite is the problem in that people in the US don't travel enough, which contributes to the very insular outlook many have, which in turn allows your bizarrely right biased political landscape to appear normal.
Very appropriate statement here.

Although that should soon change due to the windfall tax returns middle class republicans have apparently received from the tax cuts.
 

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How is Joe Rogan unbiased? He has a right winger on pretty much every month just because he invited Bernie once doesn't mean he's a centrist. Compare the number of right wingers he's had on compared to figures from the left. Ben Shapiro, Peterson, Candace Owens, Akkad, the proud boys fella, Alex Jones, Milo.

You have shifted so far to the right that Joe fecking Rogan looks like a centrist to you.
Rogan has plenty of progressives on. His election night special was with Kulinski
 

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How is Joe Rogan unbiased? He has a right winger on pretty much every month just because he invited Bernie once doesn't mean he's a centrist. Compare the number of right wingers he's had on compared to figures from the left. Ben Shapiro, Peterson, Candace Owens, Akkad, the proud boys fella, Alex Jones, Milo.

You have shifted so far to the right that Joe fecking Rogan looks like a centrist to you.
Right winger my tail, that Giggs poster is definitely far right.
 

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So, you basically use the exact opposite of what the first four would normally state & use Rogan as corroboration?

Because that’s basically what your beliefs are exemplary of.
So you just get your debrief from AP and go to bed? Ever considered that people watch Rogan for entertainment? You think i listen to Rogan for my daily news debrief? C'mon. I listen to a lot of things and interact with people of every political view you can imagine. There are facts and there are opinions, my beliefs are based on my life experiences and personal situation. That's why we all have different beliefs and political opinions.
 

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If I were an American Republican, I would be so ashamed of how Trump's reacting to this. He's common as muck.
If you were an actual Republican, you'd probably love it. He has overwhelming support in that particular group.

That you find it shameful means you could not be an American Republican in 2020.
 

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So you just get your debrief from AP and go to bed? Ever considered that people watch Rogan for entertainment? You think i listen to Rogan for my daily news debrief? C'mon. I listen to a lot of things and interact with people of every political view you can imagine. There are facts and there are opinions, my beliefs are based on my life experiences and personal situation. That's why we all have different beliefs and political opinions.
As someone stated earlier, this stock answer just continues not to hold water. I think you take the opposite of what credible news agencies say & look to Rogan for corroboration. I also highly doubt that these are your only sources, these are probably just the most palatable to offer. But, one simply does not craft a worldview like you through only looking at Reuters, AP, CBS, & NBC. You’re trying to gain a level of credibility with the opposite side with these sources. They simply can’t constitute the bulk of your media take unless you’re just looking to go the opposite way from them. There could be small editorial factions within these four that could be somewhat amenable to your beliefs, but editorial pages don’t constitute hard facts; they play on emotion.

The real issue here is there are facts & there are alternative facts & how the aggressive, willfully ignorant among us continue to propagate & spread the myths of the alternative facts.
 

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Right winger my tail, that Giggs poster is definitely far right.
In European terms, probably. But then again, even Biden would be considered right in Europe. In US terms this is not far right. if you think I'm far right you haven't really seen American far right.
 

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If I were an American Republican, I would be so ashamed of how Trump's reacting to this. He's common as muck.
I suppose that explains why you aren’t an American Republican :)
 

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This is the update at 11:29 local time.

At 10:30 local time, SoS stated that there were 30k votes left in Fulton

At 1 a.m local time, it is reported by multiple sources that there were 17k votes left.

So in 2.5 hours, they processed roughly 13k votes, or 5.2k per hour. Which means there’s roughly a 8k votes untallied between the 16k and the 17k to be counted. So we are more likely than not to get result from 25k votes after the 16k.

Let’s be conservative and put Trump lead at 15k after the 16k is accounted for, if the 25k went 4:1 for Biden, that’s a tie.

If that plays out, Biden wins GA, no two ways about it. Not enough votes in the rural counties to make up for Chatham and other outstanding blue counties.
 

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In European terms, probably. But then again, even Biden would be considered right in Europe. In US terms this is not far right. if you think I'm far right you haven't really seen American far right.
«Even Biden» :lol:

Biden and the Democrats ARE on the right. They are just left of The Republicans, because the GOP are so batshit far gone. GOP are so nuts that they make The Dems look like what you guys call «liberals». There is no «left» to talk of in the US.
 

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If you were an actual Republican, you'd probably love it. He has overwhelming support in that particular group.

That you find it shameful means you could not be an American Republican in 2020.
There’s a small faction that can be considered non-Trump voting republicans, but the vast majority are tainted by Trump.
 
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