Solskjaer's Press Conference - Everton
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Awful press conference from our manager. Such s shame the players have to play while Covid is about, in empty stadiums while picking up their full wage... Also so unfair that we are the old team impacted by it...
Lost it with him today, small time attitude, was a Cardiff press conference.
Lost it with him today, small time attitude, was a Cardiff press conference.
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Well, surely you’d be incensed at the bad loss and you’d be even more switched on to work after two losses in a row.
What a defeatist statement. I guess he’s got an excuse ready if we don’t win right? I don’t recall Chelsea having issues last weekend facing Burnley after travelling to Russia midweek.
Call me crazy, but those sorts of statements are the type to seep into the players minds. The general air of the conference was very defeatist too.
Almost like: ah, the gaffer said we’re knackered, and we did get off the plane really late. And we’re in shit form. I’m going to play in a wallowing fashion and just hope we can see out a decent enough result.
Almost like: ah, the gaffer said we’re knackered, and we did get off the plane really late. And we’re in shit form. I’m going to play in a wallowing fashion and just hope we can see out a decent enough result.
Should've been coming out and saying the lads are ready to prove their doubters/people criticising wrong. That would challenge the lads to improve their performances which is what we need but are not getting.
Coming out and saying we now have tired minds and legs only yesterday, just screams of giving the opposition incentive to come and have a go.
He's not the coach to take us forward. His whole demeanour reminds me of Moyes. Defeatist and clueless almost.
Every time I read Ole quotes in a presser, I feel like everything is great and we're on our course to win the league or something.
Not exactly the most positive and uplifting chat to me, usual stuff though, same old cliches.
He's in a very precarious situation. And he's not exactly wrong that many of these games have been tight and (his favourite term) small margins have made a difference (the loss to Arsenal, the draw to Chelsea, and the win against Leipzig all come to mind). But it seems clear he doesn't know what is causing the lack of consistency, which is alarming. That last answer to Mitten (question about consistency), about mentality maybe being different due to global circumstances was a bit of a strange one (as that would surely then affect every single team).
If I were advising him, it would be: neutralise and deflect, no answers that invite further questions. And he's more or less done that.
edit: I enjoyed that line about not needing to be happy to be positive, for what it's worth
If I were advising him, it would be: neutralise and deflect, no answers that invite further questions. And he's more or less done that.
edit: I enjoyed that line about not needing to be happy to be positive, for what it's worth
Bit of selective hearing there. He mentioned the late flight and players' mental and physical fatigue after Wednesday night's game, but in the very next sentence he says "..but today has been a bright, sunny day in Manchester and the players are ready to give a reaction" Why don't you make assumptions on the players' thoughts based on what he says about today, and his statements about wanting have a positive reaction; play with passion and fight etc.?
Ah, see. You fell for my trap. Negative sentences have a bigger impact than positive ones. I heard both sentences but what stuck in my mind? What will stick in the players mind? Tune in tomorrow and find out.
I can see a brain in there but he is a horrible public speaker.
Even the journalists are feeling sorry for him and asking how he is feeling, how embarrassing is that?
Tired clichés, defeatist attitude, and this is meant to be the manager of Manchester United? My word how far we have fallen.
Tired clichés, defeatist attitude, and this is meant to be the manager of Manchester United? My word how far we have fallen.
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Way to rally the troops boss! Is he trying to say the players are over worked? Is he trying to garner sympathy for these over paid divas?
May as well not show up tomorrow and hand Everton a default 3-0, that way we'd save ourselves from the embarrassment and we get some much needed R&R for the players.
What is the mental age of people commenting in this thread? I wonder.
Translation - “when we lose on Saturday just remember that the players are knackered so it’s not my fault”
I will never wish defeat on this club, but there’s little doubt that a heavy defeat here would probably be for the best long term if it results in this nightmare finally being over.
This is not just for you but for all who have replied similarly. Please at least watch the whole presser before commenting.
He was asked to comment on internal / players’ reaction as well as external.
He said they had a long flight, tired, but today it is a new/sunny day in Manchester, etc. He finished it with a positive message.
Whatever he does, he is wrong according to some of you. When anti Solskjaer agenda is in full gear.
What do you expect from any manager of this club when every lost game is the signal that your a complete failure and useless at your job, with a baying mob of journo's and your own supposed fans calling for your head every chance they get.
Pretty hard to stay positive in that position, no matter if you rate Ole or not. Ole's actually far more positive than any of the previous managers at this stage of their employment at United.
Does it not remind you of anything?
The tired cliches and defeatist attitude was shown by Moyes through his entire stint, was shown by LVG towards the end of his reign, was shown by Mourinho all the way from pre season in his final season to the day he was sacked.
The same will happen with Poch in 3 years time.
Regardless of who the manager is, the club will continue to be this way for a long time. The club is rotten at the top and trickles down to every part of the club.
As long as the Glazers and are running the show, you are going to have to get used to this repetition every couple of years.
Those are negative quotes, he should have kept everything positive, why say that the players were tired, and had tired minds, resulting in not doing much training when they got back?
It comes across poorly, whether ending on a positive note or not.
Unbelievable, really. In a lot of threads you read now how someone who came 3rd last year despite a paper thin squad and all key players injured or not available for longer time periods is apparently the worst manager in the league.
I for one can’t wait for the next manager to fight for the title or at least easily get 3rd place as we apparently have the 3rd best squad in the league. Surely then with someone like Poch we should easily be at least as good as last season.
That’s because you want his comments to come across like this.
He is asked questions and has to answer them.
Maybe the rot has set at the roots, at the entitled fans' level. Such a defeatist bunch.
The thread reminds me of Jose press conf thread. People used to post here dissecting every word coming out of his mouth and trying to build narratives depending on which side they were on.
What do I expect? The manager of Man Utd to come out and say something like ''That last performance was embarrassing, we've been on the training ground relentlessly ever since, and I promise that, that kind of performance will never happen again, look forward to our response vs Everton''. Like a winner would. Is that too much to ask really?
Instead Ole is giving every excuse under the sun, from Covid to them being tired & having a late flight back, and even the journos are asking how he is feeling? It's a farce.
Yep, its all about Ole now ... I’m this, I’m that, me, me, me i, i, i
No, I'd prefer a manager to not say negative things, I'm not reading between the lines, im reading the things he said, and those things are negative - spin it all you want.
There's a reason the term "white lies" was coined, whats wrong with saying the players were eager to train hard to make up for their mistake midweek? Would it have been a lie? Judging by his comments yes, but United fans don't want to hear how tired they are after witnessing what they did in Turkey.
Defeatist mentality as feck, what the feck was that? Just leave and let us keep the great memories of you as a player.
In fairness, I don't see OGS trying to defend the poor performances. There are other problems with defence in this club. The "defending" in Istanbul would have been unacceptable at junior level. We also look disjoint in attack, with all three of Marcus, Mason and Bruno looking shot.
To me it looked like OGS actually laid out his theories about why the squad is underperforming. I think honesty about mental processes in single players and the squad is a requirement for dealing with them properly. Whether they should be laid out in full view at press conferences is another issue.
No harm done in that press conference I think, unless you want to see the negatives. I want to see some "pashun" and steel, both on the pitch and the sidelines. Good opportunity to show that tomorrow by acting out on the reaction-to-bad-results narrative.
To me it looked like OGS actually laid out his theories about why the squad is underperforming. I think honesty about mental processes in single players and the squad is a requirement for dealing with them properly. Whether they should be laid out in full view at press conferences is another issue.
No harm done in that press conference I think, unless you want to see the negatives. I want to see some "pashun" and steel, both on the pitch and the sidelines. Good opportunity to show that tomorrow by acting out on the reaction-to-bad-results narrative.
Yes, I know that's what the press will be looking for. Nice of him to feed them...
Psychology is an important part of management.
I think this is the first time I'm actually not interested in seeing us play. At least with Jose and LVG I can tune in thinking "this manager has won stuff, maybe they're right and it needs time". And with Moyes he got the sack quickly.
With Ole it's just mind numbing groundhog day. I'm sure we are due a bounce back soon and the cycle with him continues.
With Ole it's just mind numbing groundhog day. I'm sure we are due a bounce back soon and the cycle with him continues.
There's always an excuse lined up for ole when we don't de well, funny how the other managers at the big clubs above us deal a lot better with the same issues...
“I don’t fall like a house of cards”
Strong words but they’re needed. He must be seen to show strength even if our performances don’t at the minute.
I swear our fans these days, so hysterical.
We need a bit of patience, if we hit the panic button again after a handful of games and sack Ole, it would be sheer stupidity and I believe the board won’t do it even if we lose to Everton.
Give the guy a season for god sake he’s earned it.
We have too many goals in this team not to bounce back, our quality will shine through.
Strong words but they’re needed. He must be seen to show strength even if our performances don’t at the minute.
I swear our fans these days, so hysterical.
We need a bit of patience, if we hit the panic button again after a handful of games and sack Ole, it would be sheer stupidity and I believe the board won’t do it even if we lose to Everton.
Give the guy a season for god sake he’s earned it.
We have too many goals in this team not to bounce back, our quality will shine through.
Hah yeah you won’t hear that from any manager mate, Ole or otherwise.
You can’t guarantee something that you can’t definitively provide.
When did you last hear any manager guarantee they won’t ever have a shocking performance again?
I agree the Glazers are ultimately responsible for everything, but what can we actually change right now?
As bad as the Glazers are they're not the ones in charge of coaching the team every week. The manager is. We've got a good squad actually, with a bench much better than most in the league. But unless we're playing like underdogs, we struggle against everyone. After 2 years we should be showing consistency, not this one step forward, two steps back every week.
Also I disagree about Ole reminding me of LVG or Mourinho. LVG was still defiant and believed in himself to the very end, he was never defeatist the way Ole has been. Mourinho sabotaged himself to get the sack, because rightly/wrongly he felt he wasn't getting backed to win the league. I disagree that we're destined to be this way under every manager. We just need to get a decent manager again, and this team can win in the future with the right coaching/signings. Rashford-Martial-Greenwood is a future top strike force for a start.
Obviously a lot of what he says is driven by a desire to shape the narrative around the club. All managers do that. But this constant nonsense about ups and downs in football, and how the final result is the only thing that matters in terms of how things are perceived is a bit much. Many of the performances have been downright comical and pathetically poor. If United had been playing well, and then losing some games due to random chance or just meeting better opposition once or twice, no one would be asking these questions already.
Also his demeanour in these is so rarely worthy of respect in my opinion. When it's not overly prickly and defensive, it's a blend of anxious and this naive, almost childish brand of optimism and nostalgia. I'm not pining for the destructive and narcisstic tone of Mourinho, but just an expression worthy of a leader at this level. The best I can do is feel sorry for him, and that is just all kinds of wrong for the manager of a club like United.
Also his demeanour in these is so rarely worthy of respect in my opinion. When it's not overly prickly and defensive, it's a blend of anxious and this naive, almost childish brand of optimism and nostalgia. I'm not pining for the destructive and narcisstic tone of Mourinho, but just an expression worthy of a leader at this level. The best I can do is feel sorry for him, and that is just all kinds of wrong for the manager of a club like United.
This man has been in charge for almost two years, more than 100 games. Taking into account the money spent on players and vital importance of being in CL next season, the Board will sack Ole as soon as they feel that top 4 is under threat. We can not gamble this season, we will do whatever it takes to finish top 4. Also good luck getting a new lucrative shirt sponsorship deal while being an EL regular.