Well... should the managers actually have the power to choose their staffs ? Maybe if that decision was put into the clubs's boards hands, things would be better ? I dont know...
That's it, usually they never change anyone who works with them.
Yet another Tactical Masterclass from Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Whoop whoop!
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That's it, usually they never change anyone who works with them.
Whoop whoop?
Whoop whoop
How does he keep outwitting top managers yet fail against mediocre ones 
Whoop whoop
Indeed
Did the OP decide to boycott the football forums ?
Bruno saved us today
More like entire 2020, not just today.
This result will haunt us for a very long time. Just goes to to show we have a very bad luck overall. The mediocrity continues...
It's a bit simplistic but you've got a point. Ole wouldn't have survived the summer without Bruno.
Nope.
Has the last 2 years taught us nothing? You just know a disastrous result is right around the corner.
Has the last 2 years taught us nothing? You just know a disastrous result is right around the corner.
Fernandes Untied.
But critically we still had a shocking performance which is worrying the only way to turn around bad form is to perform consistently and we aren't doing this under Ole. I remember this similar trend under Jose when we finished 2nd, good league position but absolutely woeful lethargic displays which seeped into the following campaign.
But critically we still had a shocking performance which is worrying the only way to turn around bad form is to perform consistently and we aren't doing this under Ole. I remember this similar trend under Jose when we finished 2nd, good league position but absolutely woeful lethargic displays which seeped into the following campaign.
He is 'outwitting' top managers, because top managers want to stamp their style on us and fail. We have tactics like smaller clubs in these games, but have very good players players to execute it. Like today with BrunoHow does he keep outwitting top managers yet fail against mediocre ones
If it is on us to dominate against smaller sides, we fail. Not because we get outwitted by shit managers, but because we can't create and aren't coached to break down park the bus teams. There you need more coaching and patterns, individual brilliance is qute often not enough when having no space.
Remember Legend, a movie with Will Smith? Caf after loss is like a night in that movie. Sammsky should be back soon
It's as elementary as it gets. Shudder to think where we would have been without the numbers contributed by Bruno
Did you not notice in the match, its the same pattern as we've seen under Ole. Right at the start we were doing nothing, it wasn't until Everton opened up that we started playing well, Top managers, usually, think they can outplay other managers on the front foot, they leave all kinds of gaps and space on the pitch, and as we know, we're pretty much a one type of team under Ole, more mediocre managers will tend to keep their teams more compact and defensive, which we really struggle to ever do anything with at all, even stringing 2 passes together.How does he keep outwitting top managers yet fail against mediocre ones
It's certainly odd because 1 match we look like world beaters, the next we look worse than Sunday league, it's the drastic difference thats concerning under Ole I think, there's no middle ground, and its been going on since he's got here.
Lucky he was smart enough to sign him then.
Must be the only manager in history who somehow has 'signed a brilliant player' turned into a criticism of him. Agenda driven bollocks
Same. Avoided caf for a good whole week.Remember Legend, a movie with Will Smith? Caf after loss is like a night in that movie. Sammsky should be back soon
@sammsky1 , it's okay now.
People may not like him and yeah I think he was starting to become very annoying recently but I still think he's a good poster capable of good posts if he decides to stop taking the manager situation as a contest between him and anyone else who disagrees with his opinion just to prove his opinion right. Just post your opinion mate and it let flow.Remember Legend, a movie with Will Smith? Caf after loss is like a night in that movie. Sammsky should be back soon
Tbf, Carlo stopped being a top coach like 5 years ago. But yeah, his record against better sides is generally quite good.
Wise words
What result? Do you prefer us to lost this game?
True. Its a shame that such brilliance wasn't used during that summer. We wouldn't have spent 145m on 3 very average players. Thank god we didn't added Longstaff to the list or else the bill would have been far higher to that. Can you imagine how good we would have been if we bought Bruno during that summer instead of spending 80m on Maguire?
@sammsky1 is fighting a losing battle, not surprised by his disappearance. Thing at United are unpredictable. Even if we trash Manchester city 5-0(whoop whoop ), you can expect us to lose to Fulham next week. This thread is an embarrassing knee jerk that even highly respected footballing pundits will laugh at. Sammsky1 probably having nightmare and is to embarrassed to show up on this forum. It has happened before as a veteran of this forum as seen countless of time as I knew this thread won’t end well. I have set up bullet points to show how Ole will be able to meet United standards in this thread and once that happens, there should be more confidence in making a woop woop thread . I know with Poch, there will be plenty of whoop whoop thread.
), you can expect us to lose to Fulham next week. This thread is an embarrassing knee jerk that even highly respected footballing pundits will laugh at. Sammsky1 probably having nightmare and is to embarrassed to show up on this forum. It has happened before as a veteran of this forum as seen countless of time as I knew this thread won’t end well. I have set up bullet points to show how Ole will be able to meet United standards in this thread and once that happens, there should be more confidence in making a woop woop thread . I know with Poch, there will be plenty of whoop whoop thread.At least he enjoys licking the bollocks of our manager.@sammsky1 is fighting a losing battle, not surprised by his disappearance. Thing at United are unpredictable. Even if we trash Manchester city 5-0(whoop whoop
Some over-the-top positivity on this forum when your team is winning to counter the doom-mongering is fine, surely? My first impression of this thread was that it was not meant to be serious but people have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.@sammsky1 is fighting a losing battle, not surprised by his disappearance. Thing at United are unpredictable. Even if we trash Manchester city 5-0(whoop whoop
It's pretty funny actually - on one side we have some people being over-the-top when a young United team managed by a club legend wins against some of the best teams in Europe, and on the other side we have some who can't wait to bash the former group of people when the same team loses. To add to it, the usual "I'm a fan of the club not the manager" line is thrown around as if it's supposed to mean something. Having said that, the attacks on posters from both sides is unwarranted.As for your bullet points, someone replied to you saying finishing third met your criteria for the first season, which you admit above, but then bring up the points tally, albeit without any nuance this time.
You can see it in many threads on this forum, it's: United wins, players bailed the team out. United loses, Ole is clueless.
Fail to get top 4 and Ole is out anyway, not one person on this forum realistically expects otherwise.
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@sammsky1 is fighting a losing battle, not surprised by his disappearance. Thing at United are unpredictable. Even if we trash Manchester city 5-0(whoop whoop
It's funny you talking about dissapearing considering you were nowhere almost entirety of postlockdown run.
Positivity thread is fine. But we arent in a positive position to merit such a thread. Maybe id we're 3rd or 2nd then you can call it a masterclass.
Whopp whopp
Whopp whopp
It certainly wasn't a masterclass. But one thing I will say (and on this point I very much disagree with certain declared Ole-outers): those goals aren't random. They aren't produced by random instances of individual brilliance.
I agree but this thread was created after the win against Leipzig. The first thread was also created after the win against PSG. And that was on the back of a decent win against Newcastle. What wasn't positive?
Admittedly, results against Arsenal and Istanbul destroyed all that positivity and then some but this thread was created much before that to celebrate the short-lived good form.
People giddily coming back to this thread to kick the OP when he was down AFTER the team loses - surely, that's worse than an exaggerated positive thread?
There is no need to bump this thread now. Just like there was no reason to do it after the Arsenal defeat.
Fantastic post.Some over-the-top positivity on this forum when your team is winning to counter the doom-mongering is fine, surely? My first impression of this thread was that it was not meant to be serious but people have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.
As for your bullet points, someone replied to you saying finishing third met your criteria for the first season, which you admit above, but then bring up the points tally, albeit without any nuance this time.
You can see it in many threads on this forum, it's: United wins, players bailed the team out. United loses, Ole is clueless.
Fail to get top 4 and Ole is out anyway, not one person on this forum realistically expects otherwise.
Yawn
That's quite mature indeed
Its just the same old lines trotted out from you again and again. £140m wasted. Longstaff. Blah blah blah
Its always obvious you have no point to make when you bring up the Longstaff rumour as you like to do from time to time. You must know how ridiculous that sounds
If it meant sacking of Ole... yes.
Does he?How does he keep outwitting top managers yet fail against mediocre ones
Seems it's only specific, the managers that want to play their own style where basically open up their defense in favor of more attacking approach.
We don't have problems with that because of our individual reliance and having good players suitable to exploit spaces. It's literally free gifts. Ole also like to tinker with tactics and putting more instructions/coaching to players in the system only when he face the top managers.
But we do have problems vs top managers who park the bus and counter us hard eg. Mourinho's type of teams and of course majority of the weaker teams. Arteta and Lampard interestingly set-up a compact low blocks and counter which also made our life hell.
Not surprising why he fail against the mediocres.
I remember those zombies Smith saw for the first time sort of dancing in a circle like tribal cannibals. That's how I imagine some of caftards after a loss.Remember Legend, a movie with Will Smith? Caf after loss is like a night in that movie. Sammsky should be back soon
So don't you think that AWB and Maguire are horribly overpriced and ordinary players ? I might add James as well in it. Sure 15m isn't a huge sum but we are talking of a championship level player here. That's 145m btw
Longstaff was constantly linked with us. Even Newcastle claimed our interest back then. So I am surprised you discard that rumour so quickly.. Could it be because he would have been yet another underwhelming signing by Ole?
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