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They are unbeaten for 7 league games in a row. Eventually they will lose a match and I hope this will be the one. We have no reason not to beat them.
Very well said. The guy is a top player and anyone who doesn’t think he can hold his own against Southampton needs to get a grip.If Van de Beek isn't good enough to play against Southampton he's got no business being at United.
it's insane people think he can't handle playing against teams with a semi decent press. He a very good player and I don't understand the reservations people have.
I don't understand. Do we have another midfielder better than VdB at evading the press? If you say VdB will only play the sideways and back passes then I can't imagine what Mctominay will do. If you say VdB can't handle the pace of the game or isn't strong enough then forget about Fred Matic and Pogba.Problem is if he plays in the PL, especially against Sou there'll be always at least one player chasing him. While others blocking his passing options. Sou is quite good with their pressing, according to the last time we met them.
That pass to Mata was in a counter situation, when he had an option to pass forward. I didn't say he wouldn't pass forward if he has an option. I was just afraid he'd have almost none next match.
Southampton isn’t just semi decent press. They are one of the best pressing team in the league as they have very hard working players and high press manager.If Van de Beek isn't good enough to play against Southampton he's got no business being at United.
it's insane people think he can't handle playing against teams with a semi decent press. He a very good player and I don't understand the reservations people have.
Interesting, maybe that's why he's so chunky.Luke has started rehab on the grass,
This. He may not have played as much as many hoped but he's no slouch. And Southampton are no prime Barca either.If Van de Beek isn't good enough to play against Southampton he's got no business being at United.
it's insane people think he can't handle playing against teams with a semi decent press. He a very good player and I don't understand the reservations people have.
Its not about the player in itself (for me at least), its just he hasnt alot of experience in that role with our team and in PL in itself. Alot of good players takes long time to adjust to PL .If Van de Beek isn't good enough to play against Southampton he's got no business being at United.
it's insane people think he can't handle playing against teams with a semi decent press. He a very good player and I don't understand the reservations people have.
I don't understand. Do we have another midfielder better than VdB at evading the press? If you say VdB will only play the sideways and back passes then I can't imagine what Mctominay will do. If you say VdB can't handle the pace of the game or isn't strong enough then forget about Fred Matic and Pogba.
Tbh of course I can't be sure whether VDB would beat Sou pressing. Problem is, if he wouldn't he won't be able to help us to move the ball forward and he'll be a liability when we have to defend. He's slow, weak and doesn't have a good tackle. Playing McT there won't help us move the ball forward either but at least I know he'd do well enough when we have to defend. So it's just too risky for my liking to play VDB this match.
I seriously doubt this but to be fair this is the type of opposition he ought to do well against. There will be space to run and they are vulnerable to the counter.I suppose, because James played well for 10 minutes, he'll be starting every game again.
Yeah that's what I've been trying to say. I like VDB but imo it's a bit risky to play him this match. Not only for the result but his confidence as well. You shouldn't introduce a new player from another league to the PL by throwing him into a difficult match and hope everything would go well. Unless you have no choice. Like Bruno.We can set up to counter and use Mctominay and Fred. I think thats the safer option
I'd go with this lineup. I think McT and VDB are good against the press and it's time for that front 4 to come together and perform once again.Fred Pogba and Matic can't start this game. Fred and Pogba will lose possession clumsily due to their organised high press and Matic can't match their energy. Pogba too again. I'd go for this
DDGI think we have a squad with variety of skillets that all Ole has to do mainly is get the right 11 able to counter the opponents style of play and motivate their asses
Awb Lindelof Maguire Telles
Mctominay VdB.
Greenwood Bruno Rashford
Martial
He hasn't done well against anyone for more than a year.I seriously doubt this but to be fair this is the type of opposition he ought to do well against. There will be space to run and they are vulnerable to the counter.
When did United become about taking the 'safer option'?We can set up to counter and use Mctominay and Fred. I think thats the safer option
Agreed with the latter part. We probably need to sell Pogba and buy a proper DM that can pass this summer and then he can be paired with Fred when we want a defensive pair and with Van De Beek when we want to just control the ball. Van De Beek will still get games as the backup 10 to Bruno, and Mctominay will be the backup for this mythical DM (2014 Matic would fit the bill ironically) and to Fred, so enough games for the 5.When did United become about taking the 'safer option'?
That's the antithesis of the club, to me.
I also don't see starting McTominay as a safer option than Van de Beek. I view it as a negative step and ceding control of the game to Southampton before a ball is kicked.
Yep, McTominay and Pogba are out injured. Wan-Bissaka and Lindelof trained today so good chance they'll be fit for Sunday. Shaw is doing some individual training but not training with the team yet.Any quotes from the presser?
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Yeah scoffing cheese and onion crisps and snickers from the 24hr garage at midnight won’t help.Interesting, maybe that's why he's so chunky.
I like that formation.Tempting to play with Van De Beek as a false 9 to beat their press and have the wingers get in behind, but McTominay is out. Otherwise woulda said:
Rashford-----VDB-------Greenwood
-------------------Bruno-----------------------
----------Fred--------McTominay--------
Telles--Maguire--Tuanzebe-Williams
------------------De Gea----------------------
Though I guess I'd now wanna see VDB alongside Fred and Cavani up top and Martial up top. James and Cavani to come on after an hour for fresh legs.
Pogba has been ruled out. As has Mctomminay.I think everyone knows we can name
10 players for Saturday. It’s right wing where we have a desicion unless martial plays there and cavani goes up top.
Southampton will press us like monsters hence why I think Pogba may play in the right forward position if fit.
We have momentum.
Greenwood Cavani VDB. Good subs.
taYep, McTominay and Pogba are out injured. Wan-Bissaka and Lindelof trained today so good chance they'll be fit for Sunday. Shaw is doing some individual training but not training with the team yet.
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He was good against Newcastle a few weeks back despite the low block and obviously had a nice cameo in Istanbul. He has played very well for Wales on a consistent basis. I don't want him starting as we have better options and he is unlikely to be more than a bit part player for us for the rest of his time here but to say he hasn't done well for more than a year is factually incorrect.He hasn't done well against anyone for more than a year.
Pogba has been ruled out. As has Mctomminay.
Not what I wanted to hear whilst sipping on my ovaltine. Ings and Redmond are out for them I guess.Pogba has been ruled out. As has Mctomminay.
Why do they call it Ovaltine? The mug is round. The jar is round. They should call it Roundtine.Not what I wanted to hear whilst sipping on my ovaltine. Ings and Redmond are out for them I guess.
———————De Gea
AWB—Maguire—Lindelof—Telles
—————Fred——Matic—————
——VDB———Bruno——Rashford
———————Martial———————
Have you actually watched Pogba for us in 2020? He's been shocking. We won't miss him.Not what I wanted to hear whilst sipping on my ovaltine. Ings and Redmond are out for them I guess.
———————De Gea
AWB—Maguire—Lindelof—Telles
—————Fred——Matic—————
——VDB———Bruno——Rashford
———————Martial———————
It seems strange reading through this thread at the amount of you who are worried about Saints. Is it about where you see Man Utd are at the moment or about how you think Saints have improved?
If anything playing Pogba is the worst hope you want to have against pressing and work rate team. Pressing is his weakness. He struggled last time 2-2 few months ago.I think everyone knows we can name
10 players for Saturday. It’s right wing where we have a desicion unless martial plays there and cavani goes up top.
Southampton will press us like monsters hence why I think Pogba may play in the right forward position if fit.
We have momentum.
Greenwood Cavani VDB. Good subs.
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