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Manchester United 6:2 Leeds United

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Sun, 20 December 2020

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Great result. Teams please attack us for the whole 90 mins like Leeds. We will give you a game to remember plus your goalie will get practice like never before.

On a serious note, this was the most entertaining game I have seen for years. Glad SAF was there in the stands to see this. If we were clinical enough, we could have taken it to double digits. Best counter attacking team in Europe!
 

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There are dozens of posters on here who insist they support the club totally, want only whats best for the club etc. All that bullshit gets said when it comes to discussing the manager and arguing their point about getting him out.

Will they come into a post match thread though and congratulation the team when we've won? 7 pages is the answer. Its shocking.
agreed, even praise is begrudging and with riders. there are people actually saying we should have scored 10.
 

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It's disappointing that Martial dived to get the penalty.
It's great that the season's best result came in the absence of Pogba. Spirit.
 

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It's disappointing that Martial dived to get the penalty.
It's great that the season's best result came in the absence of Pogba. Spirit.
Every great team performance has come without Pogba. The midfield balance is in complete harmony with Fred/Scott/Bruno. It was the trio that won us the record breaking streak last season and is the main reason for our success this season
 

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What a result and i loved every single minute of the match :D

We as supporters should say nothing negative about the match.....but the coaching staff must of course say something about all of our the misses and the mistakes in the defence because we would have lost this match if the opponent would have been for example Leicester.
 

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That first goal by McT is pure gold.
I really don't rate Dan. Speed will only get you so far. His decision making is awful like for that fall in the box. Plenty of available players yet he chooses to go him self.
I thought he did ok yesterday but youre right that his decision making is really poor for a PL footballer. He always looks to me like he knows he hasn’t been that good in games and is desperately trying to make up for it by scoring hence his tendency to go it alone rather than releasing the ball at the right time to tee up a team mate.
 

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Absolutely buzzing still, anyone else upsetting their mrs by being on the cafe all evening after a great win? :lol:

We were great and showed that possession isn’t all that!
I told my girlfriend that we scored 6 today and she said “couldn’t they have scored some of those in the other games?”(she watched the Manchester derby with me, poor thing). Dickhead!
 

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This Leeds are lovable and cuddly. You don’t want them relegated for sure. I didn’t see them vs. City or Pool, but I heard it was hilarious. That was mad yesterday- how does Bielsa get this going while communicating via a translator? Mind you I think they need a bit of the spirit of 74, get round badges, and revive the approach of Norman Hunter and Billy B. And Jack, of course.
 

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It's disappointing that Martial dived to get the penalty.
It's great that the season's best result came in the absence of Pogba. Spirit.
He didn't dive, the guy tackled and he even just fell on the ball below his chest. In any world, this is a penalty unfortunately for Leeds, no need to dive.

How about the foul on Daniel James and he gets a card for diving instead?!? That was a ridiculous decision as well from the referee.
 

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What I liked most was the fact some of fringe players played and were heavily involved. McTominay was pure class yesterday. I’ve never been the biggest fan of James but he had a good game and was glad he got a goal. This ‘could’ be good signs going forward because you need the entire squad involved to win titles. I still think it’s too early to make such a suggestion. Liverpool are just too strong this year and I sense they will move away from the pack pretty soon.
 

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We were fantastic. What is up with these pundits and commentators praising Leeds and Bielsa even when they are getting trashed? Just because they keep trying to attack does not mean it is something to praise; they’re were woeful and any other team who plays like that will get slaughtered.
 

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They have the worst defensive record in the league. That isn't the sign of a well coached team.

Yes they've produced some entertaining games so far, but the cult like behaviour surrounding Bielsa is ridiculous, any other manahge would get slaughtered for playing thst way today, and not having the sense to change it when it was clearly a disaster.
This. Had to watch the game with my Leeds supporting mate. He’s been banging on about Bielsa all year and how they would teach us a footballing lesson. I’d kept quiet waiting for the game and to find us 3-0 up after 20 minutes was hilarious.

Leeds are a good watch because they are so open it makes for great games. That’s great for a neutral. It will be interesting to see if they pull the trigger on Bielsa should they sink to the bottom 3 places.
 

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Obviously Leicester won't be as open as Leeds were,however I am hoping that this result has given us confidence
 

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For me the score was a perfect response to Liverpool winning, where they got trashed by Aston Villa and us by Tottenham.
 

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This. Had to watch the game with my Leeds supporting mate. He’s been banging on about Bielsa all year and how they would teach us a footballing lesson. I’d kept quiet waiting for the game and to find us 3-0 up after 20 minutes was hilarious.

Leeds are a good watch because they are so open it makes for great games. That’s great for a neutral. It will be interesting to see if they pull the trigger on Bielsa should they sink to the bottom 3 places.
Don't forget that all their best centre backs are injured. If you're to play suicide football with a clown DM like Phillips in front of the defence then you need good defenders on the pitch, simple as that. Without those guys there still wouldn't be much point in Leeds trying to be "pragmatic" as they'd concede from set pieces anyway. I have to agree with Bielsa that going for the 3 points with attacking football is his best option as that's how his squad has been built and that's what 3 points for a win rewards.

They need to sort out their finishing and maybe reinforce the defence in Jan if possible, or otherwise just hang in until their main defenders are back.
 

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Had to miss the last 20 minutes of the game, but watched it all again later. Fantastic game, we could have scored more, but not going to complain at six, who would complain about six goals. Both teams contributed to this being so entertaining. Really happy for Daniel James getting his goal and a good finish it was as well.
 

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This. Had to watch the game with my Leeds supporting mate. He’s been banging on about Bielsa all year and how they would teach us a footballing lesson. I’d kept quiet waiting for the game and to find us 3-0 up after 20 minutes was hilarious.

Leeds are a good watch because they are so open it makes for great games. That’s great for a neutral. It will be interesting to see if they pull the trigger on Bielsa should they sink to the bottom 3 places.
they stick to those tactics because at the end of the season it will net them more points than being measured and pragmatic. it is mainly predicated on the belief that losing is losing, doesn't matter if it is 2-1 or 6-2. but chances are they will twat a few teams around them who cannot live with their relentless pressing and intensity. they should still finish in the top half imo which would be a good achievement.
 

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they stick to those tactics because at the end of the season it will net them more points than being measured and pragmatic. it is mainly predicated on the belief that losing is losing, doesn't matter if it is 2-1 or 6-2. but chances are they will twat a few teams around them who cannot live with their relentless pressing and intensity. they should still finish in the top half imo which would be a good achievement.
Personally I disagree. We are known to be deadly on the counter so why would you play into our hands? Sometimes you need to change tactics and that is Bielsa’s problem. Part of me hopes he does drop into the bottom 3 places because I’m getting tired of hearing how great of a manager he is when results are showing he isn’t. They were one of the biggest spenders (4th) in the summer as well.

It’s great to watch as a neutral. Not sure I would want him at my club though. If he tried to play that way in the Champions League against the very best teams he would be embarrassed more than it would pay off. You don’t leave that much space in behind for top class players.
 
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they stick to those tactics because at the end of the season it will net them more points than being measured and pragmatic. it is mainly predicated on the belief that losing is losing, doesn't matter if it is 2-1 or 6-2. but chances are they will twat a few teams around them who cannot live with their relentless pressing and intensity. they should still finish in the top half imo which would be a good achievement.
Having the worst defence in the league is going to catch up with them. They had a bit of a suprise factor initially but the total naivety of their play will see then sink to relegation.

Their form is very poor. Look at the results they've had in the last two months, it atrocious. The only way they stay up is perhaps there's 3 teams worse them them in the league.
 

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Personally I disagree. We are known to be deadly on the counter so why would you play into our hands? Sometimes you need to change tactics and that is Bielsa’s problem. Part of me hopes he does drop into the bottom 3 places because I’m getting tired of hearing how great of a manager he is when results are showing he isn’t. They were one of the biggest spenders (4th) in the summer as well.

It’s great to watch as a neutral. Not sure I would want him at my club though. If he tried to play that way in the Champions League against the very best teams he would be embarrassed more than it would pay off. You don’t leave that much space in behind for top class players.
i guess like soton often do they gambled on us being caught out by the press but we are not bad at dealing with it when we don't have pogba and matic in our team. compared to yday their performance against pool was better as in they didn't look that open. the best managers are often also those who are stubborn to a fault even if it is to their detriment. A big reason leeds got promoted was covid break imo,
 

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Great result, great game, the fact it was Leeds we beat even better!
McTominay arriving (from midfield) late in the box (twice) to score brought back memories of Robbo, Scholes, etc. and their late runs from midfield, Bruno getting in on the act with same late run for the 3rd goal, great, hope we continue to do this more often.
 

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Personally I disagree. We are known to be deadly on the counter so why would you play into our hands? Sometimes you need to change tactics and that is Bielsa’s problem. Part of me hopes he does drop into the bottom 3 places because I’m getting tired of hearing how great of a manager he is when results are showing he isn’t. They were one of the biggest spenders (4th) in the summer as well.

It’s great to watch as a neutral. Not sure I would want him at my club though. If he tried to play that way in the Champions League against the very best teams he would be embarrassed more than it would pay off. You don’t leave that much space in behind for top class players.
This. I was thinking the same. To play into United's hands when you knew that we were set up to counter-attack is tactically naive and stubborn. He would be slaughtered by our fan base for walking into an open trap. Eddie Howe's determination to play open attacking football at Bournemouth (even though his team was not good enough to carry it off) is the closest parallel I see.
 

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McTominay, what a game!

I truly believe that he showed his level against Leeds. Think he has everything he needs to be a top tier midfielder in the world and that is why I chose this name, remember his!

Whole team did very well and let us not forget that Sheffield and Leeds, when other top teams are dropping points, have traditionally been the games we are nailed on to lose in the last seven years. Chuffed.
 

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Looking back is a bit unfathomable we didn't score 9. We were incredibly wasteful with some real sitters. Can't complain about the result whatsoever, but my god some of those missed chances.
 

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It was the best game of the season in terms of entertainment. I loved every minute of it and couldn't get my eyes off it. We were shaky in defense and for once I saw a team running circles around AWB. I thought he was clueless in both the halves. Leeds played a fantastic game in spite of being 2 down so early. I can only imagine a tighter game if we hadn't scored twice in the first 3 mins. Our defense still has a long way to go! It was a wonderful game to watch though. We took advantage of every mistake they made and I think we made it count. I know we missed many chances but Its alright considering our form at home.
 

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Brilliant result, if we needed to get over our poor form at home, let's hope that has smashed that into pieces! Also a triumph of tactics and team selection from Ole, something else we needed.

In another note, I've never seen a team taking a pasting but getting praised so much tbh. I don't recall that sort of praise when, say, City beat us 6-1, and it was basically a 2-1/3-1 game with us leaving ourselves open pushing to score & keeping on conceding as a result!

Also funny as the media was desperate to talk up this into being about Leeds being "Back" and they get battered. I'm middle-aged, so I get the rivalry and how much we (& everyone else?!) hates Leeds, but the fact that we've been leagues apart for years and years surely takes that rivalry down a peg or two? We always sing about how much we hate Leeds, but if they're way off us then they're more notional rivals than anything else?!

I mean that in the sense of all the rivalry hype basically giving them credit they don't deserve? We have far more recent intense rivalry with Arsenal, but they'll happily frame those games with loads of talk of "this game used to be an intense one" and "the rivalry isn't what it was" etc..

Anyway, fantastic result on loads of levels - and fun game for neutrals, except of course no-one is that neutral when we're playing!
 

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We were fantastic. What is up with these pundits and commentators praising Leeds and Bielsa even when they are getting trashed? Just because they keep trying to attack does not mean it is something to praise; they’re were woeful and any other team who plays like that will get slaughtered.
I agree. Bielsa gets praise because that fraud Guardiola has said some nice things about him.
It was idiotic to set up against United the way Leeds did yesterday. He’s a clown.
 

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Our bench yesterday (bracketed players inserted for illustration purposes that our squad is stacked for a title race)

Henderson

(Williams) Bailly (Tuenzebe) Telles

Matic

Pogba Van De Beek

Mata

Greenwood Cavani​
 

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Our bench yesterday (bracketed players inserted for illustration purposes that our squad is stacked for a title race)

Henderson

(Williams) Bailly (Tuenzebe) Telles

Matic

Pogba Van De Beek

Mata

Greenwood Cavani​
When you put it that way its given me a bit more confidence that we can sustain a challenge
 

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Looking back is a bit unfathomable we didn't score 9. We were incredibly wasteful with some real sitters. Can't complain about the result whatsoever, but my god some of those missed chances.
Yeah I agree, and you can't help but think it was pure complacency than lack of ability. If we were say 1-2 down, most of those chances are nailed.
 

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I agree. Bielsa gets praise because that fraud Guardiola has said some nice things about him.
It was idiotic to set up against United the way Leeds did yesterday. He’s a clown.
:p Are there coaches in world football that are above the level of ‘idiotic and fraudulent clown’ for you?

Bielsa is incredibly knowledgable and has done a very good job of improving Leeds from championship mid table to PL mid table. He does so by taking strategic risks, ie by extreme man marking and sticking to the same tactics regardless of opposition, because he thinks the benefit is greater than the cost in the longer run. Sure, it can get ugly at times, but it’s not because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Guardiola and Klopp have achieved a lot with similar lines of thinking.

United really exploited the weaknesses of his team fantastically well yesterday, greatly helped by game plan and mentality both being mint from the off this time. Liverpool and City struggled to exploit it, scoring five together but letting in four, Liverpool’s winner an 88th min penalty getting in the way of two tactical triumphs.
 

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So we hammer Leeds 6-2 and it gets just 7 pages worth. If we’d lost it’d get double that, what’s wrong with you people?
Sadly I’ve noticed that everyone seems to feed more on negativity than a positive result. The insufferables on here won’t be happy unless we have a 100% record and even then they’ll find a reason to whinge about something else.
 

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Another different challenge that we met. We have shown some excellent performances against a variety of teams and I’m actually looking forward to matches again. Just need a solid defence which will enable the mf to do its job, other than worry about the defence
 

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Maybe the most enjoyable game I've watched since SAF. Ole has to get props for that performance. Like many, I was not thrilled with the team selection beforehand, but I was wrong. MCT was outstanding, the lad may lack creativity sometimes, but he's an absolute beast. Maybe more so than I had realized. Great athlete, and caused Leeds all sorts of problems. James had a good game, and it was the perfect game to play him, so all credit to Ole on that.

Read that in Bielsa's illustrious career, his teams have never conceded 6 goals in a game, until yesterday. We gotta start giving some credit to our manager. It's not always pretty and there have been bumps in the road, but we're starting to see some real progress.
 

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I haven't gone through al the comments here but my guess is many will now be saying we are going to win the title. I'd say: Leeds played into our hands and their defence reminded me of us in many first halves in away games this season: non-existent.

There were, of course, some good performances, most notably Scott McT and (no surprise given that we won, Bruno). But there were also some not great ones: AWB was caught out of position quite often and (I know people won't agree) I think DDG should have kept out their first goal having got a hand to it. Don't even try to tell me Schmikes would have be beaten. And once again we saw that Martial is not a centre forward. How much longer is Ole going to keep picking him and keep not hooking him when he's either missed chance after chance or been anonymous.

That said, we showed what happens when we actually start a game rom the first whistle not after 46 minutes.
 

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