2021 American Civil War

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Absolutely amazing that some of these people allow themselves to get brainwashed to the extent that they get sacked from their jobs in the middle of a pandemic.
They seem to be under some delusion that Trump will rescue them.
 

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In all of this the craziest thing is how stupid these people are. How can they fail to understand that none of what they say or did should be posted on social media with their faces uncovered, some have the audacity to share their names and place of living.
Because they're confident they wont be touched by any authoritative figure.
The President has been willing these people on, The majority of republicans have been willing them on-on social media and you had policemen/woman caught on film opening barriers for these MAGA protestors. You cant blame them solely for having utter delusion in thinking they'll get away scot-free.
 

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This guy is just unbelievable


A few days earlier....

He is vile and utterly self-serving.

But sadly his points, which I'm sure he argues insincerely and others across the divide have pointed out too, there needs to be someone to take on the Trump support base and appease them whilst not being completely disruptive in the process.

It's going to be very difficult to peacefully appease this huge swathe of American voters.
 

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He is vile and utterly self-serving.

But sadly his points, which I'm sure he argues insincerely and others across the divide have pointed out too, there needs to be someone to take on the Trump support base and appease them whilst not being completely disruptive in the process.

It's going to be very difficult to peacefully appease this huge swathe of American voters.
There's no appeasing or reasoning with people who live in an alternate universe where science doesn't matter, where alternative 'facts' rule the roost, and where most of their claimed beliefs are in any case convenient camouflage - including disguising their own self-deception from themselves - for racism, misogyny, homophobia etc etc.

All you can do is face them down and - as far as possible - deny them the oxygen of publicity
 

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He is vile and utterly self-serving.

But sadly his points, which I'm sure he argues insincerely and others across the divide have pointed out too, there needs to be someone to take on the Trump support base and appease them whilst not being completely disruptive in the process.

It's going to be very difficult to peacefully appease this huge swathe of American voters.
The problem that I have with this is that it insinuates that Trump support base isn't made of lunatics, no one sensible can appease them, they are not reasonable and there is no step to make in their direction. They have to make all the steps or get lost.
 

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Here's a snippet from the WaPo article covering the first round of people (40) charged in court:

In D.C. Superior Court, 40 defendants were charged with unlawful entry of public property and were notified that prosecutors are reviewing evidence of an additional charge of curfew violation. Most of the defendants came from outside of the Washington region — including Oregon, Florida, Wyoming, Connecticut and Pennsylvania — though some were from the District, Maryland and Virginia.

One person arrested was charged with possessing a “military style automatic weapon” and 11 molotov cocktails, prosecutors said. Another defendant was charged with assaulting a police officer with a hockey stick. Yet another, who needed a Russian interpreter, told a judge, “I don’t know what unlawful entry you are referring to.”


Like, huh...?! Beyond everything else, this also has national security implications. Just a feck-up of monumental proportion on the part of law enforcement.

Article is here but I imagine is paywalled: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...1292a2-5105-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
 

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They seem to be under some delusion that Trump will rescue them.
They'll be fine. The States has an excellent unemployment support system and they can take advantage of the free healthcare and soci- oh...wait.
 

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Trumps support base, was, is the Tea Party which Ted has been at the forefront of for years. He honestly believed the last election was his time to be President. Unfortunately for him they turned to Trump. Now all he's doing is pandering to that same base to save his ass for the future where he hopes to become their next dear leader. I have numerous connections media wise with groups in these organisations. I can tell you right now among the base they're tearing themselves apart. Divided loyalties have started up seeing Trump concession last night as the ultimate betrayal mixed with those who are total dear leader worshippers. Unfortunately the people behind it all are rubbing their hands with glee as they're going to make a lot more money now than when it was all mainstream and the donations started heading in to Trump.
 

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I wonder how many are going to get off because they were "waved in" by the police. The video of them removing the barrier could be construed as an invitation to enter by a lawyer (and the one video of the officer waving them in). That would make me sick if that happens.
 

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I wonder how many are going to get off because they were "waved in" by the police. The video of them removing the barrier could be construed as an invitation to enter by a lawyer (and the one video of the officer waving them in). That would make me sick if that happens.
They were waved in to the grounds it looked like and that wasn’t an entry gate anyway. It seemed the right decisions to move it after the other video showing about four cops getting over powered by dozens.
To get into the actual building they flanked and swarmed cops, smashed windows and climbed through, didn’t look much of an invitation to me
 

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They'll pivot this to a "Trump is doing this so he can reveal the traitors in the ranks. Let's see who stands up for him."
Yeah my mate has a Facebook group with 1.2k members and all have lost money backing Trump at Betfair. I was invited and can read their comments but they are total loons and say it is part of his master plan to drain the swamp. Anyone who speaks up and says they have been lied to by Trump are instantly muted. They are all following some dude (Simon Parkes) on YouTube who explains it all apparently :lol:
 

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Yeah my mate has a Facebook group with 1.2k members and all have lost money backing Trump at Betfair. I was invited and can read their comments but they are total loons and say it is part of his master plan to drain the swamp. Anyone who speaks up and says they have been lied to by Trump are instantly muted. They are all following some dude (Simon Parkes) on YouTube who explains it all apparently :lol:
If America/Humanity survives this there are going to be countless studies on how a narcissisitic, elitist, racist, "billionaire" was able to so completely brainwash millions of people. He is everything they hate and they are everything he despises. It's amazing (in a bad way).
 

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It must have been due to the pandemic. They have been doing this sort of thing in many countries every year and the pandemic stopped them from traveling so decided to try at home.
 

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Here ya go. Facebook post from one I know (who coincidentally also served in the USAF - same as the dead woman)


The irony in these people is so strong. "FOR we the people" but not in a "socialist crap hole.". They want the mass to support their individualistic goals but refuse to support other peoples in their fight to gain collective rights or have them respected. It's as if they are convinced that everyone is working for them and has to support them first and foremost. Sociologist have to be the happiest people at the moment, they have a lot of material to study.
 

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Impeachment or invoking the 25th is a terrible idea. Just when all these loons have started to fracture and destroy each other it would only unite them against the libs and give them something else to blame other than themselves.

Trump needs to be cucked for the next two weeks and made to endure the humiliation of the inauguration and leaving the WH.
 

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Impeachment or invoking the 25th is a terrible idea. Just when all these loons have started to fracture and destroy each other it would only unite them against the libs and give them something else to blame other than themselves.

Trump needs to be cucked for the next two weeks and made to endure the humiliation of the inauguration and leaving the WH.
I agree on the 25th. Impeachment though, if they can get it done, has the added benefit of preventing him from ever running again. That being said I think I am in you camp as long as they can keep him sidelined for 12 more days.
 

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I agree on the 25th. Impeachment though, if they can get it done, has the added benefit of preventing him from ever running again. That being said I think I am in you camp as long as they can keep him sidelined for 12 more days.

Him running again would be great. It'd feck the other repubs and there's no way any independent or dem would ever vote for him after all this.
 

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What's funny reading all the nonsense spouted by the Trump supporters/klan is that they're inadvertently arguing for late-stage communism
 

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I agree on the 25th. Impeachment though, if they can get it done, has the added benefit of preventing him from ever running again. That being said I think I am in you camp as long as they can keep him sidelined for 12 more days.
Ideally Mitch and Nancy (sitting in a tree) go to Trump and say listen here you little shit, we got the votes you either resign now or we convict the shite out of you.
 

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Here ya go. Facebook post from one I know (who coincidentally also served in the USAF - same as the dead woman)


The most glaring error in thought from the Trumpites is that they believe he doesn't need the money. They've bought his 40+ year marketing campaign hook line and sinker.
 

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What a snowflake. Why doesn't he just go across the street to the next publisher then? Free markets, competition, etc. etc. will sort this out for him.
He will. He knows what he is doing. He's milking this to rile up people who believe that every white person should not be denied a platform.
 

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I agree on the 25th. Impeachment though, if they can get it done, has the added benefit of preventing him from ever running again. That being said I think I am in you camp as long as they can keep him sidelined for 12 more days.
I can't see the Senate going along with it, but if they can pass something that says he can't ever run again, then that would be worth pursuing.
 

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Him running again would be great. It'd feck the other repubs and there's no way any independent or dem would ever vote for him after all this.
You have too much faith in independents, dems or people in general.
 

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I can't see the Senate going along with it, but if they can pass something that says he can't ever run again, then that would be worth pursuing.
Repubs can just kick him out of their party. It's up to them to clean up their own mess.