But why? How is it possible to convey ideas to your own players if you don’t even talk to them? There were a couple that reached more heights in football than Lampard himself even (he at least had to talk to world champions Kante and Tiago Silva out of respect...)
Frank Lampard's Sack Watch / Sacked
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Neville playing the violin for him on Sky 
I dont see Tuchel as being a particularly great man manager either.
I appreciate that the Norwegian league isn't in the same bracket as the PL, but I don't know why we keep on ignoring it like it doesn't exist.
Ole coached the reserves here, coached Cardiff and struggled, but then had done very well for Molde (including winning trophies when they weren't always favourites) before taking the United job. I wouldn't put him in the same boat as Lampard at all.
There's a REALLY long article in The Athletic and the Kepa issue was supposedly what he fell out with the CEO over. It essentially says that his man management was very poor which made the situation impossible to retrieve when things started going wrong. He just didn't talk to the players at all. Some criticism of his tactical instruction from some players, although they only name Kepa in that regard.
Love how suddenly transfer embargo is looked at as its nothing plus outgoings, if that was our case the amount of excuses would be built from it, shit would go through the roof.
With all due respect, Frank being sacked saddens me deeply. I was looking forward to the excuses that the media would have made on his behalf when Chelsea finished 6-8 spots behind Man Utd. Especially after they had spent months telling us, without any basis, that he was dope and Ole was not.
Roman has made it too easy for them. Now, they will just say that he got sacked too soon and didn’t get the chance to turn it around.
Roman has made it too easy for them. Now, they will just say that he got sacked too soon and didn’t get the chance to turn it around.
Feels a bit early for me. We would of sacked ole about 3 times if we kept the line Chelsea did
Huh, guess we'll find out which of the two is right later today!
Yes but the point is, if/when Ole leaves, if we go and get the current Molde manager following a couple of Norwegian titles back to back, would that be considered a prudent appointment?
Can anyone on this forum even name the current Molde manager without the help of Wikipedia?!
What I'm saying is the appointment of Ole wasn't made on his success in what is let's be honest, a tinpot league. It was made because of his name and it wasn't even a permanent appointment to start with anyway.
Chelsea did the same with Lampard, anyone else as manager of Derby finishing runners-up in the playoffs (and totally outclassed by Villa on the day) wouldn't have got anywhere near the Chelsea job.
There's no room for sentiment if you want to be a successful football club.
Could have read it here first, posted here yesterday essentially exactly the same.
Big difference with OGS is that despite your poor run last year, players still had faith.
My interest in the national team is pretty meh tbh. He's wank. Wish Chelsea had of spunked 80m on him. Shame with Lamps gone it won't happen.
The stories about him doing strange things like not speaking to the players seem weird to me. He was a top player at Chelsea for years and experienced playing for lots of different managers. I can’t imagine him having such sort of fundamental flaws, if he did I’m not sure he’d have lasted as long as he ended up doing.
Well they dance around Arteta like he is a demigod.
I don't think the insinuation is that he looked down on his players. More that his personality is lacking something when it comes to man-management.
They are such a huge group of high profile players somebody going to get hurt over playing time, tactics etc. You simply can't please everyone. Hence Ole is doing remarkable job, so far.
No, no, no, no, no, no, and guess what? Nooooooo.
Bye Frank, you can join your mates in studios now.
Tuchel you say...hmmm.. he is sh*te. Sacked at the end of the season.
There.
Ta.
Bye Frank, you can join your mates in studios now.
Tuchel you say...hmmm.. he is sh*te. Sacked at the end of the season.
There.
Ta.
I can believe some of those stories. In the interviews he did over the last couple of months, it always seemed to me that he was brimming with anger. Just not mature enough to be a manager of a top club (yet).
In hindsight Chelsea would've been better off just adding 4 good quality players to last year's team, I didn't think it needed anywhere near as much surgery as they gave it. They had a good base to build upon and might have actually set themselves back further due to the teething issues and now disgruntled players.
Yeah, true. Solskjaer's pretty much had the players onside since his first day here, it's primarily the reason his job's never been in any real danger.
Of all of them Kepa complaining to the board about Lampard's tactics is hillarious.
But wasn’t it because Ole spoke to the players, on the contrary? Also, with time Ole became better at selecting players on merit - it can’t be argued even, as we don’t have even one underperformer in the team now who gets games often. Not even one
Tuchel is a quality manager always liked his team's and the diversity in his coaching.
The articles painting a recently sacked manager in bad light are typical. Don't know why clubs always leak these things so quickly.
The issue of Kepa is bizarre. He is a bad keeper bought for £72m. What did hey want Lampard to do with him?
The issue of Kepa is bizarre. He is a bad keeper bought for £72m. What did hey want Lampard to do with him?
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Sacking managers is the Chelsea way. Lampard knew the risks and how Roman works more than anyone when taking on the job so the outcome was inevitable. However, unfair it seems.
From a neutral perspective, it's been an unpredictable season and Chelsea are only a few points from the top the 4, still in the FA Cup and Champions League. He's been trying to integrate too many new players whilst trying to give youth players a chance and this takes time. Not all is lost mind, he'll get a nice handshake which will go some way to mend his bruised ego.
From a neutral perspective, it's been an unpredictable season and Chelsea are only a few points from the top the 4, still in the FA Cup and Champions League. He's been trying to integrate too many new players whilst trying to give youth players a chance and this takes time. Not all is lost mind, he'll get a nice handshake which will go some way to mend his bruised ego.
I don't think the articles paint the board in a particularly good light either.
Didn't tuchel fall our with mainz, dortmund and psg hierarchy... pretty much all of them based on transfers
Might as well start the tuchel sack watch straight away if he starts working for roman
Might as well start the tuchel sack watch straight away if he starts working for roman
I'm 100% surprised Lampard lasted this long at Chelsea if I'm honest.
Off-topic: I was actually expecting the hammer to fall on Bruce today.
As they say in management "nothing more can destroy the moral of good employees by tolerating bad employees"
We didn't really want his to happen, did we?
That was exactly the plan. He did better than expected last season - I don't think they saw him getting top 4 with that squad so probably planned to sack him in the summer.
They needed someone last season to make it through the season after losing Hazard and with no money to spend. They then went ahead and bought the players they were always intending to buy and now they'll get someone who they think will work best with the group of players they've assembled now.
He doesnt need to go anywhere for a while, if I remember right when Di Matteo was sacked it was reported in the next earnings report Chelsea would continue paying him his regular salary until his original contract would have ended to avoid paying a massive payoff like they did with Villas Boas and they continued that since with other managers (supposedly). Taking a new role waives that income then which is why Di Matteo delayed taking a new role afterwards for a while.
In short hes fine for a few quid for now
tough call though if he hopes to stay in top flight management.Wish they waited until they had dropped off even further but you cant say Chelseas management arent ruthless.
God no. They're far enough back not to cause his too much hassle this season.
Next season will be a different story.
Tuchel and Roman isn't exactly a match made in heaven.
I'd be slightly worried if I were a Chelsea fan. The Hire / Fire approach doesn't seem to have the same success the last 5 or 6 years, with the time they won the title the only title challenge in that time. I read also that they havent won a CL knockout tie since 2014 as well.
I don't think they have the same characters in the dressing room that they've had in the past to really elevate them, & it seems almost a culture now for the players to give up on a manager really easily if things don't go their way.
That's why I rate Utd for sticking with Ole, & Arsenal for Arteta. Once you have that set in the club, that the manager doesn't have the power, then it tends to not mean good things.
I don't think they have the same characters in the dressing room that they've had in the past to really elevate them, & it seems almost a culture now for the players to give up on a manager really easily if things don't go their way.
That's why I rate Utd for sticking with Ole, & Arsenal for Arteta. Once you have that set in the club, that the manager doesn't have the power, then it tends to not mean good things.
I do feel a degree of sympathy for Lampard. I know he was given a largely easy ride of it from the press but their season wasn't irretrievable.
If they had a genuinely top manager taking his place it would be more understandable but Tuchel isn't and won't be that man. It looks as though their board are more concerned with getting Werner and Havertz playing.
If they had a genuinely top manager taking his place it would be more understandable but Tuchel isn't and won't be that man. It looks as though their board are more concerned with getting Werner and Havertz playing.
Signing so many players was the problem. Half a team of starters with most having no EPL experience.
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He was doing a piss poor job.
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