City's offside goal vs Aston Villa

[Dinghy]

So, apparently this ridiculous goal that they got from Jon Moss and the VAR-team last week will be ruled out if it happens again. Possible title-deciding goal in the last 10 mins. A decision never seen given before in the history of football, and that ended up with Dean Smith getting a red for protests. Thoughts?

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[Judas]

fecking ridiculous to change it now? That's just admitting they got it terribly terribly wrong.

 

[GledTheRed]

Was a complete piss take.

 

[GifLord]

Where are all the the phase of play mental gymnast at?

 

[sullydnl]

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[Heinzesight]

When’s the next piss up in a brewery for the lads at the FA?

They’re a joke. Changing it now makes them look even more foolish.

 

[matt23]

Doesn't surprise me anymore. The game is run by idiots.

We lost the opening game of the season to a handball that is no longer considered a handball because of how ridiculous it was considered.

 

[Teja]

We lost the opening game of the season to a handball that is no longer considered a handball because of how ridiculous it was considered.

Was there a change here? I remember thinking damn, that was given against us earlier on in the season, why don't we get that pen a couple of times since then.

 

[United58]

That's crazy If City win the league by 2 points...

 

[Bale Bale Bale]

They already changed the handball law mid-season so not surprising.

I remember Spurs conceding a similar goal a few years ago against Arsenal. Ball gets crossed in from a free kick, Bassong sees two offside(he wasn't to know that) players behind him so he back-pedals to try and get something on it but ends up heading into his own net. I don't know if such a goal would be allowed now or not as neither player who was offside played the ball at any point but clearly they influenced Bassong's decision to try and head it, had he just left it they would've been off and no goal.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

It's shocking how much the authorities have bungled the integration of VAR into the Premier League with around the same time presiding over a rulebook full of absolute rubbish and tweaks and u-turns all over the shop. Just diabolical planning and governance.

 

[SilentWitness]

The incident reminds me a little of the Nani vs Tottenham goal. Technically legal but not sporting at all which is why they've probably now came out and said if it happens again it will be dealt with.

 

[2 man midfield]

How many times are the rules going to change mid-season? It's a joke. Nobody knew it was even a rule until last week, now they've done away with it. At the very least they should overturn Smith's ban.

 

[RedDevil@84]

So will FA now rescind Dean Smith's red and not charge him

 

[Carl]

Where are all the the phase of play mental gymnast at?

Quite.

 

[Carl]

How many times are the rules going to change mid-season? It's a joke. Nobody knew it was even a rule until last week, now they've done away with it. At the very least they should overturn Smith's ban.

They haven't changed the rules, they've just spelled out how to interpret them to our utterly incompetent officials.

 

[matt23]

Dean Smith should probably have his red card nulled.

I think everyone has wanted to abuse Moss that much at some point..turns out he was fairly justified.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Very reactive and not proactive.

If they were any bit good at their jobs they would have seen what could have happened before it happened and had the law already in place.

 

[Adisa]

I don't think it is bias or corruption, just incompetence.

 

[rcoobc]

It was the correct decision and you are all wrong


probably

 

[Bebestation]

The referee should be asked to give an interview for the decision he made, why he thought he was right, update him that he is regarded as wrong and then tell him that he sent off the manager also because he was doing his job wrong.

The referees of the PL are too big named for me, they almost carry this celebrity aspect to them that they can be overweight and do their job whilst making mistake after mistake.

 

[ManUnitedCanuck]

What is the writing of the new rule then? It was obvious at the time that an unfair advantage was presented due to the situation, but the officials didn't have the ability to determine that.

So how will the law be written, because we know the officials will only follow the law to however it is stated, yet use their discretion a million times a match especially with fouls in the box and late tackles, etc..

 

[Carl]

The incident reminds me a little of the Nani vs Tottenham goal. Technically legal but not sporting at all which is why they've probably now came out and said if it happens again it will be dealt with.

feck that. Gomes puts a live ball on the floor. Opposition player scores.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

So will FA now rescind Dean Smith's red and not charge him

No because even though he was right to be exasperated, not to mention fecking furious, the bad man shouty shouted so has to get told off. I feel like I'm being made to back abuse in the workplace here but when a man in a high pressure environment is getting basically pissed in the face by a group of officials the authorities should have the stones to admit they were wrong and stop punishing that man for their incompetence.

 

[Carl]

Very reactive and not proactive.

If they were any bit good at their jobs they would have seen what could have happened before it happened and had the law already in place.

Not really. Anyone with half a brain should know how that law was to be interpreted. Embarrassing for our officials that it needs spelling out in this way.

 

[sullydnl]

Where are all the the phase of play mental gymnast at?

Tbf, PGMOL said that those were the rules and the correct interpretation was applied. Now IFAB have said that they were interpreting it wrong.

Can hardly blame posters for not knowing the way the rule should be applied when the refs themselves literally just had to have it explained to them.

 

[Valley Blue]

How is changing the rules being allowed half way through the season? Whether you think it was right or wrong, changing it now affects the integrity of the league, stunning incompetence.

 

[Skills]

The refs are far too protected in this league.

 

[Oranges038]

I originally thought the goal was right to be given based on the rules.

Are they now saying that it was wrong to give it or that it was ok but if it happens again it will be disallowed?

 

[sullydnl]

What is the writing of the new rule then? It was obvious at the time that an unfair advantage was presented due to the situation, but the officials didn't have the ability to determine that.

So how will the law be written, because we know the officials will only follow the law to however it is stated, yet use their discretion a million times a match especially with fouls in the box and late tackles, etc..

There is no new rule. The interpretation has just been clarified because PGMOL were interpreting it incorrectly.

 

[cyberman]

Tbf, PGMOL said that those were the rules and the correct interpretation was applied. Now IFAB have said that they were interpreting it wrong.

Can hardly blame posters for not knowing the way the rule should be applied when the refs themselves literally just had to have it explained to them.

I dunno. It just seems like a polite way of saying we fecked up.

 

[rcoobc]

I originally thought the goal was right to be given based on the rules.

It was definitely right.

 

[Carl]

I originally thought the goal was right to be given based on the rules.

Are they now saying that it was wrong to give it or that it was ok but if it happens again it will be disallowed?

They're protecting the referrees with their statement, but its quite clear it should never have been allowed otherwise they wouldn't come out with this clarification.

Was ridiculous to allow at the time, just as it would be now.

 

[Pexbo]

The refs are far too protected in this league.

Too right. It’s ridiculous, they’re a law unto themselves.Self preservation society.

 

[GifLord]

Tbf, PGMOL said that those were the rules and the correct interpretation was applied. Now IFAB have said that they were interpreting it wrong.

Can hardly blame posters for not knowing the way the rule should be applied when the refs themselves literally just had to have it explained to them.

I mean on the same day we had a similar situation in the Italian Super Cup Final and the ref whistled for offside.
Thought Spanish refs were bad but PL one's take the cake
It's an absolute shitshow when it comes to referee decisions and the way they're changing rules as the season goes on
That guy they have on BT sports was first saying it was the wrong decision - after the match correct decision

 

[Crackers]

It was the correct decision and you are all wrong


probably

We'll never know for sure... bait

 

[edcunited1878]

Looking forward to Jon Moss and the VAR official to ref a PL match soon without any repercussion of their complete incompetence.

Once again, just shows that the refs are inconsistent and some are too incompetent when it comes to enforcing the rules/laws when they should be applied.

 

[charlenefan]

Absolute piss take

Officiating has gone to an all time low this season when you look at that, those early hand ball calls, the VVD incident, fecking hell they're making a mockery of the game

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Wow, I missed that goal.

The idiots who thought that was ok, on and off the pitch should all wear dunce hats for the next fixture. Imbeciles..

 

[The Firestarter]

So:
Onside according to the rules of the game
Offside according to the spirit of the game

What the actual feck?