No, I agree, I’ve argued the case for a while that Ronaldo and Messi are no longer great assets because they demand a disproportionate amount of resource for what they can possibly deliver. Until recently, few seemed to agree though.
Lionel Messi’s Obscene Contract
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Same fam. I'd be fascinated to know what his career would've been like without the HGH (also with the hypothetical stipulation that he didn't need it).
Sure the salary they have for messi is 72mil pa. That's not even close to what the actual contract is as per these leaks.
That list isn't anywhere near accurate.
And if it was accurate they have Ronaldo salary at 60mil which is almost half the 115 odd mil per year Messi is getting
He's probably been fiddling with his taxes again and this reveal will cause him problems.
It's funny it got leaked. He is a greedy man.
Yeah agreed with the above. Being leveraged to your absolute limit doesn’t make sense because it leaves little to no room for error (or a pandemic!). The mismanagement comes from the amount that is paid to everyone else, as you rightly say, and all the failed signings at inflated prices.
They're counting Messi's base salary w/o the signing/loyalty bonuses, since those were already paid i guess. It's a list of what they earned that year
Cristiano's is in line with reports
What's leaked INCLUDES his endorsements deal as it goes through the clubs too.
Not the fans, the market. Messi is generating Barca nore than he earns.
No surprise Barcelona are in financial trouble. I wonder what the boardroom guys were paying themselves?
It's hardly Messi's fault for being paid so much. This is on the decision-makers.
It's hardly Messi's fault for being paid so much. This is on the decision-makers.
Messi is obviously full of himself, he thinks the clubs owns him everything.
I don't blame him, as he is meant to be a selfish businessman like every other elite. It just shows how fans, loyalty are worthless in modern football. These players have nothing in common with the ordinary person. Their god-like image has to be destroyed...
I don't blame him, as he is meant to be a selfish businessman like every other elite. It just shows how fans, loyalty are worthless in modern football. These players have nothing in common with the ordinary person. Their god-like image has to be destroyed...
Well no one forced them offer him that contract. They gotten all his best years and his whole career so far, they could just have let him go if they didn't think he was worth the money.
Surprised they didn’t throw in the “Messi bobble head” sales to try and Bolster it.
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'Course. Now that he has half a billion in his bank, it will never be about the money for him (until he signs with his next club).Didn't he say a few days ago that is was not about the money for him
€115M just to sign the fecking contract. And yet people are saying it’s not greed
Yep. I'm just going to point and laugh. The guy could afford to have every single detractor in this thread assassinated with a week's worth of tax evasion. And get away with it. Why should I give a shit about his PR crisis?
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It's artificially raising the price. Messi is guilty of "misusing" his best player tag. He held the club to hostage through his monopoly strategy.
Such concepts are everywhere in different industry, and it hurts the common man at the end. Such practices are immoral.
Stated, multiple times, but it doesn't fit with Messi being the downfall of Barcelona, so it's summarily ignored.
Pretty much why I don't follow any club in a nutshell.
Boo hooo. Stop watching people being paid millions to kick a ball then. Then we can cry over Brad Pitt being paid 40 mil dollars a film to pretend he's Brad Pitt.
Charitable cause?
Good post if taken unironically.
So much this. Barca were playing a dangerous game trying to balancing all these crazy contract, and the pandemic just pushed them over the edge. While they couldn't have predicted a pandemic bankrupting them, you expect a lot more prudence from money managers than they've shown.
Bartomeu is a coward, and he didn't have the courage to let Messi leave under the guise of a release clause last summer. So no chance he'd think of actually selling him 5 years back. It's interesting contrasting this with RM. They sold Ronnie, and they've also been similarly shambles since, and they continue to get the similar kind of flak which Barca are getting for keeping Messi. I suppose it was a catch-22 situation for them, and there was no easy way out.
I mean, Messi's wages are *a* problem, for sure. Just not the biggest one...they could have put a better team around him for significanfly less money and not be in this bad a situation. Liverpool's wage bill is lower than barcelona's sans Messi!
They are socios. Can't be paid. Club is a non-profit organization
Absolutely, I never gave a damn about any elite players or celebs, and their endorsements. They don't represent the common man, and all their words/actions have to taken with a pinch of salt.
There are many ways one can be paid. It happens in top-level government when giving out contracts. Transfers and contracts are not always clean.
Barca have been claiming this figure but it appears they have been using weird accounting standards. Their revenues are more like €800/€850m
The amount they pay Messi has a direct influence on what the others are earning.
You mean, it's possible they made money illegally off the club? I guess so
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Curious what some on here would consider a fair amount for Messi to get paid. To label him greedy cos of how much a club is willing to pay him seems wrong.
I am sure, money for value, Ronaldo is the better player...
It kind of doesn't. His only peer is Ronaldo... and they do have direct influences on each others income.
If agents are using those two are ways to get more their clients, and clubs are feeling pressured to give in, that's on the club, not the two behemoths. But yeah, once the first one of those dominoes starts falling.... then well yeah, the rest will follow. Essentially a lot of the middle to upper tier players are overpaid, not Messi and Ronaldo.
He's only getting figures close to that because him or people around him are saying "little more, little more, little more". I don't blame him for taking it, but the way some people in here don't want to point any fingers at Messi clearly being a greedy little toad is weird.
If the club offers a contract worth x mount then that's on them.
Between Messis contract, some terrible buys and other wages, how do they get passed FFP?
Rather it's about Messi demanding. He is holding Barca hostage despite his so called love for the club.
How's he holding them hostage though? Barca could either pay or not pay. It's not like he's got a gun to their heads. As a professional athlete with a limited career span to maximize earnings, I don't blame Messi at all. And for the most part, he's produced the goods.
Més? Si
It was always there, right in front of our eyes.
It was always there, right in front of our eyes.
Mes que un club indeed.
What a glorious footballing club with all the integrity in the world.
What a glorious footballing club with all the integrity in the world.