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Well this thread is starting to take a turn for the worst...
Who the feck wants to drag race theory into this? I know who usually does it, but still.
Leicester have completely mugged us off for the price.
If we had VVD instead of Maguire, we'd probably be clear of City in 1st right now.
If we had VVD instead of Maguire, we'd probably be clear of City in 1st right now.
'There are two types of people. The caucasians and the non-caucasians. One can run and the other can't, so you have to always have one of the runner people'.
It was that world cup in 2018 where he scored those headers for England, and looked like a decent enough defender. His reputation skyrocketed after that.
That helped a lot but he was rated very highly at Hull.
This thread is definitely not the place to discuss theories on race.
Please don’t try and elaborate on this viewpoint further. It doesn’t need or deserve any more analysis.
I'm glad it's being highlighted today. Recently he's been a lot better with holding the line, but last season, he would regularly play everyone onside and no pundits would ever call him out on it.
The fact that he's by default better than Lindelof and Bailly just shows how biased the media can be when it comes to an English player.
The fact that he's by default better than Lindelof and Bailly just shows how biased the media can be when it comes to an English player.
I hate him and his £3 haircut
So his playing the entire Everton team onside had no part to play in us conceding the final goal? His lack of speed had nothing to do with us conceding the second?
You can say that. It's debatable which one has been better over the last 18 months.
Maguire was probably a little better before lockdown, although it was close.
Lindelof was certainly better between lockdown and the end of last season.
Lindelof was certainly better at the start of this season.
Maguire has been better for the last 2 months or so.
Maguire's good games are better Lindelof's, but he tends to also have more poor games. Overall they average out quite evenly. I guess the hope is that the correct partner will allow Maguire to have his good games more often and reduce his poor games, but if he doesn't show an improvement I'd be annoyed if Lindelof doesn't get a chance next to the new guy (if we get one).
I think you're underestimating how funny this could be.
hehe, yeah, maybe David Healy was WC after his international career
Maybe for a few posts, but it will quickly grow tedious. The tone of the post about muscle fibres doesn't suggest it would be a balanced and productive debate.
Take that stuff to the CE!
But people this clueless so rarely post in the CE.
He's responsible in the same way the entire team are, but he's not the one mainly at fault for any of them. Those honours go to DDG, and Tuanzebe, both of whom had howlers.
No, being on the side of rationality and apportioning blame on merit rather than bias is definitely the right side of the discussion in my book.
Anyway, we're never going to agree on this, for you Maguire is the main culprit tonight, and for me he's far from it. I'm gonna leave it at that, hope you enjoy the rest of the weekend.
When Maguire is on form, he’s ok. Nothing exceptional. Nothing outstanding.
When he is bad, he is really bad.
When he is bad, he is really bad.
Unfortunately, our defence (him included) will be the biggest obstacle for us this season. Don't think we'll ever win the league with him as our leader, first choice CB.
I await the break through of Asian sprinters, seeing how they now have an advantage no one had known of previously.
When he kept laying down after the ref didn't blow for the foul on him near the end. Hate him as our captain.
He was an idiot for looking for contact that way, and just shows how weak he is. He was absolutely looking for contact and went down on minimal contact. Although it was a foul, it was such a weak and bad decision to look for that contact. Moss was onto him and made him sweat it out. Had they scored, may be VAR would overturn. Or maybe not.
We really paid 80m for this guy and gave him the captaincy because he's English and scored a goal at the world cup.
He is just an ogre we need better than the likes of him.
He is just an ogre we need better than the likes of him.
Exactly what I've been saying for months now. I remember telling people this guy was awful for us and needs to go and I was being labelled everything under the sun.
Said from day one he's not good enough, then gave him time to adjust and then was vindicated. This guy is not United material. He needs to go to Stoke or West Ham those are his type of teams.
Sad.
No top club in world football would be having this guy start. Not Juventus, Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern... but for United he starts every single game and to throw the cherry on top he's captain.
He has his issues but having a goalkeeper that is able to come out of his line to make a save will make the space behind Maguire much smaller.
The defenders prefer playing with Romero to de Gea and it can be seen; there is almost an offside trap eith acres of space that we have no intention of playing because De Gea is not coming off his line.
The defenders prefer playing with Romero to de Gea and it can be seen; there is almost an offside trap eith acres of space that we have no intention of playing because De Gea is not coming off his line.
He as captain and leader of the backline should be doing a lot better to organise the defence. I did not watch the game, only the goal replays in the post match thread.
First goal: He could and should have intercepted the pass to Calvert-Lewin, but De Gea also did poorly.
Second goal: The entire defence should have pushed up after Lindelof’s header. Lindelof’s header was very poor, but perhaps he did not receive a call from Maguire to leave it.
Third goal: Defence was very poorly organised. Cavani, who is decent in the air, was marking nobody. Tuanzebe just ball watching - he could’ve reacted and affected the ball before it reached Calvert-Lewin. Defenders were on the wrong side of the Everton attackers. De Gea too slow off his line.
I’m unsure what our defensive coaching is like, but it seems like we aren’t set up well to defend set pieces (not just in this game).
First goal: He could and should have intercepted the pass to Calvert-Lewin, but De Gea also did poorly.
Second goal: The entire defence should have pushed up after Lindelof’s header. Lindelof’s header was very poor, but perhaps he did not receive a call from Maguire to leave it.
Third goal: Defence was very poorly organised. Cavani, who is decent in the air, was marking nobody. Tuanzebe just ball watching - he could’ve reacted and affected the ball before it reached Calvert-Lewin. Defenders were on the wrong side of the Everton attackers. De Gea too slow off his line.
I’m unsure what our defensive coaching is like, but it seems like we aren’t set up well to defend set pieces (not just in this game).
we writing fanfiction now to defend Maguire?
Maybe we just need a better coach to help us improve our set piece defending. We really cannot let this continue if we have any intention to keep on improving. It's no longer just the players but our set up as we look hopeless every game and feels like we will concede from every set piece.
Maybe Ole should tell the Board to help him add another member to his coaching staff. Our defenders can definitely not be that bad.
Maybe Ole should tell the Board to help him add another member to his coaching staff. Our defenders can definitely not be that bad.
lets for a second accept that he isnt playing them on. Why the hell is he right at the back of the Everton players and not in the middle of them?
An even clearer image is below. He is in no position to contest any headers.
That world cup hype was the reason we got fleeced and blindfolded. I think that's pretty obvious. Yeah, the captain thing was always strange to me.
Exactly its something you expect from a winger or someone slight. It was a foul but you expect a lot better from your cb. Add the price tag and the fact he is captain of one of the biggest clubs in the world and its embarrassing.
He looked exhausted against Everton and should have admitted it. Ole needs to look at being proactive with subs
He makes too many basic mistakes
He's been decent this season, but there are still too many games where he's shit. Can't have that when you're worth 80 million pounds, there has to be more consistency.
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I don't get why he's so deep in his position. If you're deep like that you gotta be closer to the ball / near the Everton defenders so you can influence it if the ball drops there.
There's 1 Everton player behind him (which Scott can pick up) and four in front of him
Annoying
There's 1 Everton player behind him (which Scott can pick up) and four in front of him
Annoying
He's not good enough, none of our Cb's are good enough if you ask me but he's obviously carrying the weight of the 80 million transfer fee round his neck.
When you look at what Liverpool and City got for less money you'd expect Maguire to be at Ferdinands level.
When you look at what Liverpool and City got for less money you'd expect Maguire to be at Ferdinands level.
Played Calvert-Lewin onside, then didnt have the pace to track his run or intercept the pass. De Gea poor touch into Doucoure's path for 1st Everton goal. Joint effort with Lindelof to give James too much space inside the box for the 2nd goal, with an assist from Fred missing the ball as it came across. One of the CBs needs to be charging the shot down like their life depended on it and neither even cared enough to go to ground
3rd is Maguire playing Calvert-Lewin onside again
What a stinker
3rd is Maguire playing Calvert-Lewin onside again
What a stinker
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