City won the league with Barry as a starter.
Declan Rice
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Moyes played Mourinho football and he was still the best midfielder on the pitch.
Went to Aston Villa
DIdn't he get injured? He was gonna be the best, the new Gazza, I remember.
Whatever happened to rhetorical questions?
If that's his biggest fault, to not be good enough for City to spend a ton on him (and play quite a specific style), he's not got many faults. The ambition of this club is a much bigger question than individual transfers. To be honest, I don't see serious ambition or general competence. We lucked out on Bruno, but Bruno aside, when did we last sign a world class player? Been years and years and then some years. In fact, it was Robin van Persie.
Balls he was. With a bit more composure through midfield they would have posed us a lot more problems.
Who was better? He did a solid job, was strong in the tackle and held his position well. It’s not a surprise they conceded when he went in for that 50:50 with Shaw.
I’ve in doubt again 
Not very impressed, but West Ham was very very weak today.
Not very impressed, but West Ham was very very weak today.Pretty much. I hate to buy into tropes and cliches but he is your classic midtable defensive midfielder. He even has that classic one thing in his favour of his resilience and ability to play constant football. Played in all 38 PL matches last season, played every minute so far this one.
Di Maria, Pogba, Zlatan
That’s what happened. Was never seen again since.
No question Di Maria was World Class when we signed him. Pogba... no doubt either.
Oh, and don't forget Memphis.
I concede. And I'll further qualify what I meant: a player who fits and delivers top level performances consistently.
Also, Memphis
McTominay was head and shoulders. Fred was also clearly better than him, Fred made 139 passes to Rice's 61 and still had a better percentage than him, plus 3 key passes to Rice's 0. Rice only made one more bloody tackle than Fred.
It's no surprise at all that his shit touch sent them out of the cup, no.
People writing him off as the third Longstaff brother after a single game in which no one stood out 
Pretty sure some of you would write Rashford off too if he played for WH and was on a similar run of form to now. So much knee-jerk.
Pretty sure some of you would write Rashford off too if he played for WH and was on a similar run of form to now. So much knee-jerk.
Don't diss Memphis, did you not fecking see him against Midtjylland? World Class.I concede. And I'll further qualify what I meant: a player who fits and delivers top level performances consistently.
Also, Memphis
I mean, everyone here wrote him off before tonight like, tonight just compounded those suspicions.People writing him off as the third Longstaff brother after a single game in which no one stood out
Pretty sure some of you would write Rashford off too if he played for WH and was on a similar run of form to now. So much knee-jerk.
Haha. That was the game where I also thought, oh hang on, and then he went back to believing his own hype.
Misunderstood, the Brugge game proved it.
He's basically Fellani. Not in style but in the fact that he will look a much better player than he is in a Moyes set up. West Ham are built for him. He is young so its possible he will adapt to a bigger club but any club paying big money is taking a huge risk.
McTominay is a level above Rice.
Rice is decent but he wouldn't improve this team in any way
I've never seen Rice and thought he's a player we need. He seems to be a very competent footballer and not much else.
Matic, Fred and McTominay all comfortably better and we are looking to improve upon them in the deeper role
Matic, Fred and McTominay all comfortably better and we are looking to improve upon them in the deeper role
I don't see Rice often but I have never been wowed by him. The way he's talked up sometimes you'd think he was Fernando Redondo mark 2. He's actually closer to being another Scott Parker. If he's lucky he might one day be David Batty lite. At the same age Nicky Butt had levels on this lad.
This. He’s clearly a player on the verge of being an even better player. People used to mock Henderson and he became a big player for Liverpool. I feel like Rice would grow a lot more amongst better players
Yeah if tonight was an audition for Utd then feel it went very similar to Upamecano's one for Leipzig last October, will admit he really didn't look much of an upgrade on Scott and maybe we do actually need to look at more of a DLP
He would take over Matic's role (our only actual DMF) and improve us immeasurably if he did.
If Pogba leaves this summer, he would be an absolute no brainer to better upgrade our squad.
Other than being kinda tall and white, no idea why people are comparing him and McTominay. They play completely different positions, and have radically different skillsets. Rice reads the game well, is quick, strong positionally and good at tackling. Scotty is far more progressive, at his best when moving towards the final third and not tasked with much defending. He grew up as a striker ffs.
If Pogba leaves this summer, he would be an absolute no brainer to better upgrade our squad.
Other than being kinda tall and white, no idea why people are comparing him and McTominay. They play completely different positions, and have radically different skillsets. Rice reads the game well, is quick, strong positionally and good at tackling. Scotty is far more progressive, at his best when moving towards the final third and not tasked with much defending. He grew up as a striker ffs.
Matic doesn't have the legs whereas Rice does. Apart from the heavy touch I thought Rice controlled the game from a DM perspective. He has the physicality plus the passing ability. If you pair Rice with McTominay or Fred and Upamecano with Maguire, that should fix the defence.
The question is, is he worth prioritising over someone from outside the Premier League in the current climate? For me the answer is no, due to what West Ham would want.
Can we sign someone from abroad who could do the same job, but is considerably cheaper? I'd say we could.
Can we sign someone from abroad who could do the same job, but is considerably cheaper? I'd say we could.
Really have no idea what game you were watching if you felt that.
A game where United did very little for the possession they had for 90+ minutes. If you are a DM in a team that sets up to defend, you have succeeded if the opposition doesn't create many clear cut chances.
Wouldn't you say it was due to defending in numbers and he (Rice) was one of many obstacles that we had to navigate?
Their whole midfield were playing the DM role.
I presume you are thinking of people like Zakaria, Koopemeiners or Locatelli or did you have someone completely different in mind that hadn't even been mentioned by anyone on here yet, if so feel free to share it because think it would be a smart move to look outside the league as could definitely pick up someone cheaper.
If you're in a team that is set up to defend for 90+ minutes, and your standout moment came when you gave the ball away for the only goal of the game, can you really attest to having a positive impact? The praise in which you look to bestow until Rice can be given to any one of the XI. If you're looking to make a move to a big club, don't you think you need to be more than one of the crowd?
I don't know if Inter would let him go, but Marcelo Brozovic looks a really interesting player for the role and can distribute the ball extremely well. He's 28 though, so might not be welcome due to being a OAP for some. We have runners in our team like McFred but need genuine class on the ball which I feel we lack in the build up phase.
We already bought an 80 million fridge in Maguire so hope United have more sense then to go and buy another fridge
He's be an absolutely shite signing for the money he'd cost. He wouldnt improve us. We don't need another Maguire-esque signing.
Especially when we're going to obviously be a lot more frugal now with the finances as they are.
Especially when we're going to obviously be a lot more frugal now with the finances as they are.
Controray to general tone here , i thought he had a excellent game. Sheilded their back four excellently and his offensive game has improved quite a lot. He is Matic regen and still has time in his side to improve his offensive input which i think will happen when he moves to a better club. If Lingard can be used as a make weight , I'm fine with 50m + lingard.
Not worth spending roughly 80 million on. Not a chance
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