SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

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That looks almost cavalier imo. No way will they have done enough vaccination to open up so much safely on that time scale. You just have to hope the better weather helps. Imagine a third wave while mass vaccination is still happening?
Haven’t they? Aren’t basically all over 70’s vaccinated with first dose at this stage?
 

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You lot complaining, I wish we had the UK's roadmap in Ireland. We seem to be going our usual approach of "do what other countries do but way slower because our government are a bunch of pussies."
The Irish government had my support for the duration of this but the last few weeks they have descended into an absolute farce, a total shambles.
Ministers using every opportunity to speak total drivel on any airwave, not one of them says the same thing. Its like a bunch of headless chickens at this point.We have no effective leadership.
Then the stuff they are saying is bleak as feck every time. I mean politicians are good at deflection so why dont they lie about restrictions or at least try and spin a positive light on the need for restrictions.
Dont get me started on NPHET.
 

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Haven’t they? Aren’t basically all over 70’s vaccinated with first dose at this stage?
I think by then possibly the over 60s will be done too, although perhaps not with enough time passed to build up a desirable level of antibodies from the first jab. My mum is 63 and she got her invitation to get her jab a couple of weeks ago. My dad is 67 and got his actual jab last week.
 

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I eagerly look forward to all of the Caf posters who, over the years, have mentioned Diane Abbot getting her numbers wrong as reasons not to vote Labour applying the same logic to this clip.
 

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The Irish government had my support for the duration of this but the last few weeks they have descended into an absolute farce, a total shambles.
Ministers using every opportunity to speak total drivel on any airwave, not one of them says the same thing. Its like a bunch of headless chickens at this point.We have no effective leadership.
Then the stuff they are saying is bleak as feck every time. I mean politicians are good at deflection so why dont they lie about restrictions or at least try and spin a positive light on the need for restrictions.
Dont get me started on NPHET.
NPHET have said restrictions will be needed until hospital waiting lists go down. As someone with family members who work in nhs and hse I know that both health services were in tatters due to lack of funding for years pre covid. NPHET are a joke.
People have definitely lost all confidence in the government North and South, the only saving grace for the north has been the vaccine rollout.

We need some sort of light at the end of the tunnel or even the people who are still following guidance will stop listening.
 

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I hope this post ages well.
I mean, I obviously don't wish we had handled it like the UK and obviously I don't want us following the UK's blueprint for Covid! I moreso mean that we have been shockingly slow to reopen in comparison to other European countries and it's ruining us. Our government are spineless and have at every turn failed to both implement and exit lockdowns in a good manner.
 

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The Irish government had my support for the duration of this but the last few weeks they have descended into an absolute farce, a total shambles.
Ministers using every opportunity to speak total drivel on any airwave, not one of them says the same thing. Its like a bunch of headless chickens at this point.We have no effective leadership.
Then the stuff they are saying is bleak as feck every time. I mean politicians are good at deflection so why dont they lie about restrictions or at least try and spin a positive light on the need for restrictions.
Dont get me started on NPHET.
Yeah public opinion has totally shifted. Never saw the parks in Dublin busier yesterday, everyone just out and about enjoying the sun. And can you really blame people when our hopeless taoiseach won't even address the nation and just keeps leaking "six more weeks" to the media instead? Or then Leo saying the opposite at every turn. or them all saying different things. There being no roadmap to speak of, no indication as to when we can actually do anything, and we still haven't even vaccinated over 85's. They bow to everything NPHET say except when it's actually a terrible idea to not to do like giving people a "meaningful Christmas". The whole thing is a shambles, but what would you expect from an FFG government.

They don't even give a toss about the old people dying from this, their only concern is making sure the health service that they ruined isn't shown up to be the pile of shite it is.
 

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Is the two households mixing from the end of March still with "social distancing" or will that not be required? I've not seen the updates.
This is what happens when details leak out, but not the full details. As you say is social distancing still in force for this. I would hope so. Does two households still mean 6 people maximum? They seem to always release measures that can be open to far too much interpretation.
 

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This is what happens when details leak out, but not the full details. As you say is social distancing still in force for this. I would hope so. Does two households still mean 6 people maximum? They seem to always release measures that can be open to far too much interpretation.
I think that the two household rule doesn’t have a limit as such. Let’s assume you have a family of four. You could meet another family of 2,4,6,8 or even 10 and it’s within the guidelines.

Or you could go to the park and meet five individual friends. That’s where the rule of six comes into it.
 

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On the schools thing, another dynamic of Covid will be how the children of key workers have been massively advantaged over their peers by being in school the whole time in much smaller class sizes.
 

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Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.
 

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Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.
Probably the Crohn's and definitely if she is on immunosuppressant medication like Azathioprine to control it.
We are currently doing over 65s in the vaccine priority list but many areas also the 16-64 with certain health conditions that makes them more vulnerably.
Asthmatics do fall in that list but only if having needed emergency hospital admission recently or recurrent oral steroid use.

Vaccine clinics are running very quickly and smoothly once we get supplies in. Very tiring though, have to be on our feet the whole day and voice sore from consenting. Nightmare for our admin teams though who have to contact patients on short notice and arrange things logistically.
 

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Yeah public opinion has totally shifted. Never saw the parks in Dublin busier yesterday, everyone just out and about enjoying the sun. And can you really blame people when our hopeless taoiseach won't even address the nation and just keeps leaking "six more weeks" to the media instead? Or then Leo saying the opposite at every turn. or them all saying different things. There being no roadmap to speak of, no indication as to when we can actually do anything, and we still haven't even vaccinated over 85's. They bow to everything NPHET say except when it's actually a terrible idea to not to do like giving people a "meaningful Christmas". The whole thing is a shambles, but what would you expect from an FFG government.

They don't even give a toss about the old people dying from this, their only concern is making sure the health service that they ruined isn't shown up to be the pile of shite it is.
I heard the coast/parks and clontarft/dollymount were rammed yesterday. Is that a result of the pointless 5km rule.? why cant we go to another county as long as we are outdoors and away from people?
Meehole is just a disaster and Leo is just sniping an easy target from the long grass.
Its all doom and gloom. At this point I am cracking mentally and everytime a new government communication appears its like a contradiction to what the last fella says. Then our NPHET leaders tell us something even more different again on some other media conduit.
The cure is worse than the disease now at this point and the infuriating thing is that we are a year in and there is no apparent plan. The answer to everything is lock the people up for the foreseeable future with the hope of maybe meeting a friend for a coffee in August. feck this.




NPHET have said restrictions will be needed until hospital waiting lists go down. As someone with family members who work in nhs and hse I know that both health services were in tatters due to lack of funding for years pre covid. NPHET are a joke.
People have definitely lost all confidence in the government North and South, the only saving grace for the north has been the vaccine rollout.

We need some sort of light at the end of the tunnel or even the people who are still following guidance will stop listening.
Then we will be in restrictions for ever. Because the waiting list has exisited for ever. Their answer to waiting lists is to lock people up? feck me.
I stopped listening last week. I think its a shambles. I dont think NPEHT should even be allowed to speak to the media.
 

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Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.
Id say it because she is elderly :lol:
 

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It seems a quite sensible approach I think. They need to not make the mistake of opening everything up too quickly again. Schools should be prioritised.

It seems odd though that they've known about this 8th March date for a while but not opted to offer all school workers a vaccine which would allow them to have 1st level protection to the virus by the 8th March
 

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Oh god - he made a right hash of that!!
Maybe sending someone pissed out of their tree to do interviews wasnt the best idea :lol:
It makes zero sense to send them back for 3 weeks before the Easter break.
I can only speak for myself, but as a single dad trying my damndest to work from home and covering three absent staff for the past 2 months whilst ensuring a stroppy teenager is doing what she should, three weeks is a long time, and if she ISNT doing what she should be, that three extra weeks is going to make a difference.
Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.
Did you sleep well on the sofa?
 

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I heard the coast/parks and clontarft/dollymount were rammed yesterday. Is that a result of the pointless 5km rule.? why cant we go to another county as long as we are outdoors and away from people?
Meehole is just a disaster and Leo is just sniping an easy target from the long grass.
Its all doom and gloom. At this point I am cracking mentally and everytime a new government communication appears its like a contradiction to what the last fella says. Then our NPHET leaders tell us something even more different again on some other media conduit.
The cure is worse than the disease now at this point and the infuriating thing is that we are a year in and there is no apparent plan. The answer to everything is lock the people up for the foreseeable future with the hope of maybe meeting a friend for a coffee in August. feck this.






Then we will be in restrictions for ever. Because the waiting list has exisited for ever. Their answer to waiting lists is to lock people up? feck me.
I stopped listening last week. I think its a shambles. I dont think NPEHT should even be allowed to speak to the media.
I don’t think Holohan or NPEHT consider the effects of lockdown whatsoever.
 

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Yeah public opinion has totally shifted. Never saw the parks in Dublin busier yesterday, everyone just out and about enjoying the sun. And can you really blame people when our hopeless taoiseach won't even address the nation and just keeps leaking "six more weeks" to the media instead? Or then Leo saying the opposite at every turn. or them all saying different things. There being no roadmap to speak of, no indication as to when we can actually do anything, and we still haven't even vaccinated over 85's. They bow to everything NPHET say except when it's actually a terrible idea to not to do like giving people a "meaningful Christmas". The whole thing is a shambles, but what would you expect from an FFG government.

They don't even give a toss about the old people dying from this, their only concern is making sure the health service that they ruined isn't shown up to be the pile of shite it is.
That just pisses me off hearing that, we can blame the government for many things but people need to apply common sense too
 

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That just pisses me off hearing that, we can blame the government for many things but people need to apply common sense too
I don’t think that’s fair. There’s going to be hundreds of thousands of people within 5k of all our parks. Many of them without any outdoor space of their own. Why can’t they hang out outdoors on a sunny day?
 

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That's his style, he ruffs it up on purpose before interviews to play up to his clown image.
I know that but it's just stupid. If I went out in public like that my partner would want to strangle me. Not in an erotic asphyxia way either :lol:
 

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Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.
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Probably the Crohn's and definitely if she is on immunosuppressant medication like Azathioprine to control it.
We are currently doing over 65s in the vaccine priority list but many areas also the 16-64 with certain health conditions that makes them more vulnerably.
Asthmatics do fall in that list but only if having needed emergency hospital admission recently or recurrent oral steroid use.

Vaccine clinics are running very quickly and smoothly once we get supplies in. Very tiring though, have to be on our feet the whole day and voice sore from consenting. Nightmare for our admin teams though who have to contact patients on short notice and arrange things logistically.
Thanks for this and thanks for your efforts.
 

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I don’t think that’s fair. There’s going to be hundreds of thousands of people within 5k of all our parks. Many of them without any outdoor space of their own. Why can’t they hang out outdoors on a sunny day?
Cross mixing? Against the guidelines for now?

look maybe I’m being harsh but I’ve been cocooning for nearly a year, doing what we’re advised to whilst others just seem to do whatever they want. I just feel that we need one last community push to get the numbers down.
 

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That just pisses me off hearing that, we can blame the government for many things but people need to apply common sense too
Well Phoenix Park is within a 5km range of a lot of people, so where do you expect them to go on the first nice day of the year? If you limit people in the most densely populated county in the country to 5km then what do you expect to happen?

it's an idiotic rule, the 5km. Plenty of space across the country for people to go outside and chill but with the 5k you are essentially confining busy places like Dublin to single parks so naturally they will end up over crowded.
 

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Opening schools at once. Should have split it up a little, and give all school staff the vaccine in advance.

Wouldn't be surprised if there is a significant enough increase to delay the stages from then
 

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Cross mixing? Against the guidelines for now?

look maybe I’m being harsh but I’ve been cocooning for nearly a year, doing what we’re advised to whilst others just seem to do whatever they want. I just feel that we need one last community push to get the numbers down.
Ah c'mon, how many times has this been said?

What happens when numbers go down anyway? Schools go back, then construction reopens, then they go back up. it's nonsense. Where is this whole "living with Covid" plan we've been hearing so much about? By all accounts "living with it" doesn't mean making everyone cocoon every time cases go up a bit.
 

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Ah c'mon, how many times has this been said?

What happens when numbers go down anyway? Schools go back, then construction reopens, then they go back up. it's nonsense. Where is this whole "living with Covid" plan we've been hearing so much about? By all accounts "living with it" doesn't mean making everyone cocoon every time cases go up a bit.
Well I keep hearing this “under 100” magic number on the news, we’re at what, just under 700 a day at the mo?

anyway I’m just pissed off. I’m sick of the area I live in being the highest in the entire country. They’re all dumbfcuks round here. Even Paul Donnelly (SF) had to tell people to stop congregating around the village
 

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They’re on the news now saying they need more guards to patrol the parks after yesterday. Makes me think Phoenix park was jammers
 

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Opening schools at once. Should have split it up a little, and give all school staff the vaccine in advance.

Wouldn't be surprised if there is a significant enough increase to delay the stages from then
The question is do teachers deserve it sooner than those in the priority groups?
 

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The question is do teachers deserve it sooner than those in the priority groups?
Yes, as they will be the ones amongst hundreds of kids each day - then can take it back home with them potentially infecting their own families.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Unions kick off more about this.